Trunkello Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Is anybody beside me wirried about the next big faq? What if the rules team looks again on the top armies and says: hmm these custodes guys dont look too realistic to me...lets raise their points by 40. Least Devotee 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordofmandulis Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Is anybody beside me wirried about the next big faq? What if the rules team looks again on the top armies and says: hmm these custodes guys dont look too realistic to me...lets raise their points by 40. What specifically do you think would go up by 40pts? Bike captain? I think they could maybe go up a little but they shouldn't go up to chapter master points. If anything the other units need to come down a little in price a tad, it's boring as hell only seeing bikes everywhere. Least Devotee and Trunkello 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trunkello Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Bike captains by 10. Vertus praetors by 20 for 3 man also and bumm now you are crippled. Thats 50 points in a regular custodes army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepstrike_Nick Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) Is anybody beside me wirried about the next big faq? What if the rules team looks again on the top armies and says: hmm these custodes guys dont look too realistic to me...lets raise their points by 40.I always find this fascinating. Everyone spams the beardy stuff, everyone complains about the beardy stuff and then everyone complains that it gets fixed. This while most of the OP lists are only really present at top level tournaments and the largest part of the community is blissfully unaware of the "must take units" and just plays stuff they think looks cool. Perhaps the sky isn't falling? EDIT: the "everyone" I mention above refers to the online community. Edited September 2, 2018 by Deepstrike_Nick Least Devotee, BLACK BLΠFLY and Frater Cornelius 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatGrinder Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 They'd have to nerf shield captains into the ground to stop people spamming them, same with BA captains with all the gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 No. They need to nerf the Supreme Command Detachment. That'll prevent DP and Dawncaptain spam. The Captain itself is fine. Maybe 10pts in CA to bring him in line with the other captain choices instead of being blatantly superior. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdemings Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 i've got a 2k event this weekend, and thought i'd share my list. It's not optimized in any way, but it plays lightening fast, and is quite scary. battalion 2 bike captains 3 squads of 3 spears vanguard allarus captain 1 squad 3 terminators achillus dread allarus vexilla w/-1 to hit telemon dread so far it's done decent work against Maggie and his dusty boys (magnus always dies t1 due to poor choices by opponent), and in my defense i roll hot. in 2 games, he's killed 1 allarus. thats it. What say you? I gave my telemon two accelerators, in his inaugural game killed some mortars and primaris only to be nuked by a castellan.My opponent had the clever suggestion of giving one captain the bike relic and another the helmet for that sweet 3++. That's what I do, 3++ on both bikes. Round 1 versus eldar with a lynx and dark reapers, I lost 2 spears and table him turn 4. Round 2 magnus/Morty and sorcerer spam, lost 8 spears and tables him turn 4 Round 3 deathguard/1k sons with lots of princes and magnus, he tables me turn 5, but I still win on points. Turn 4 crazy deathguard/1k sons with a bunch of possessed. I'm tabled on 4, losing primary and tertiary but winning secondary. If I hadn't, I would have dropped into 2nd. Took the event with 99bps. Telemon does work, but the achillus is fantastic.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 (edited) i've got a 2k event this weekend, and thought i'd share my list. It's not optimized in any way, but it plays lightening fast, and is quite scary. battalion 2 bike captains 3 squads of 3 spears vanguard allarus captain 1 squad 3 terminators achillus dread allarus vexilla w/-1 to hit telemon dread so far it's done decent work against Maggie and his dusty boys (magnus always dies t1 due to poor choices by opponent), and in my defense i roll hot. in 2 games, he's killed 1 allarus. thats it. What say you? I gave my telemon two accelerators, in his inaugural game killed some mortars and primaris only to be nuked by a castellan.My opponent had the clever suggestion of giving one captain the bike relic and another the helmet for that sweet 3++. That's what I do, 3++ on both bikes.Round 1 versus eldar with a lynx and dark reapers, I lost 2 spears and table him turn 4. Round 2 magnus/Morty and sorcerer spam, lost 8 spears and tables him turn 4 Round 3 deathguard/1k sons with lots of princes and magnus, he tables me turn 5, but I still win on points. Turn 4 crazy deathguard/1k sons with a bunch of possessed. I'm tabled on 4, losing primary and tertiary but winning secondary. If I hadn't, I would have dropped into 2nd. Took the event with 99bps. Telemon does work, but the achillus is fantastic.. Do you have some info on how you tackled psycher-heavy lists? Also, I am happy that the Achillus seems solid. Got one in the mail along with the Telemon. Edited September 3, 2018 by Frater Cornelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdemings Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 (edited) i've got a 2k event this weekend, and thought i'd share my list. It's not optimized in any way, but it plays lightening fast, and is quite scary. battalion 2 bike captains 3 squads of 3 spears vanguard allarus captain 1 squad 3 terminators achillus dread allarus vexilla w/-1 to hit telemon dread so far it's done decent work against Maggie and his dusty boys (magnus always dies t1 due to poor choices by opponent), and in my defense i roll hot. in 2 games, he's killed 1 allarus. thats it. What say you? I gave my telemon two accelerators, in his inaugural game killed some mortars and primaris only to be nuked by a castellan.My opponent had the clever suggestion of giving one captain the bike relic and another the helmet for that sweet 3++. That's what I do, 3++ on both bikes.Round 1 versus eldar with a lynx and dark reapers, I lost 2 spears and table him turn 4. Round 2 magnus/Morty and sorcerer spam, lost 8 spears and tables him turn 4 Round 3 deathguard/1k sons with lots of princes and magnus, he tables me turn 5, but I still win on points. Turn 4 crazy deathguard/1k sons with a bunch of possessed. I'm tabled on 4, losing primary and tertiary but winning secondary. If I hadn't, I would have dropped into 2nd. Took the event with 99bps. Telemon does work, but the achillus is fantastic.. Do you have some info on how you tackled psycher-heavy lists? Also, I am happy that the Achillus seems solid. Got one in the mail along with the Telemon. I roll so many sixes they made me use casino dice. Also, killing the witch seems to work best... Edited September 4, 2018 by rdemings Least Devotee 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanewatts Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Took 7th overall in the NOVA open GT this past weekend with my bike overload list. Still wiped out from 3 straight days of Warhammer. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdemings Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 i've got a 2k event this weekend, and thought i'd share my list. It's not optimized in any way, but it plays lightening fast, and is quite scary. battalion 2 bike captains 3 squads of 3 spears vanguard allarus captain 1 squad 3 terminators achillus dread allarus vexilla w/-1 to hit telemon dread so far it's done decent work against Maggie and his dusty boys (magnus always dies t1 due to poor choices by opponent), and in my defense i roll hot. in 2 games, he's killed 1 allarus. thats it. What say you? I gave my telemon two accelerators, in his inaugural game killed some mortars and primaris only to be nuked by a castellan.My opponent had the clever suggestion of giving one captain the bike relic and another the helmet for that sweet 3++. That's what I do, 3++ on both bikes.Round 1 versus eldar with a lynx and dark reapers, I lost 2 spears and table him turn 4. Round 2 magnus/Morty and sorcerer spam, lost 8 spears and tables him turn 4 Round 3 deathguard/1k sons with lots of princes and magnus, he tables me turn 5, but I still win on points. Turn 4 crazy deathguard/1k sons with a bunch of possessed. I'm tabled on 4, losing primary and tertiary but winning secondary. If I hadn't, I would have dropped into 2nd. Took the event with 99bps. Telemon does work, but the achillus is fantastic.. Do you have some info on how you tackled psycher-heavy lists? Also, I am happy that the Achillus seems solid. Got one in the mail along with the Telemon. I roll so many sixes they made me use casino dice. Also, killing the witch seems to work best... The achillus killed a wave serpent in 1 fight phase, dealing 3 mw and 18 additional wounds. The telemon killed 2 demon princes in overwatch. in the same charge phase. 2d6 plasma flamer to the face hurts... BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcoon Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 i've got a 2k event this weekend, and thought i'd share my list. It's not optimized in any way, but it plays lightening fast, and is quite scary. battalion 2 bike captains 3 squads of 3 spears vanguard allarus captain 1 squad 3 terminators achillus dread allarus vexilla w/-1 to hit telemon dread so far it's done decent work against Maggie and his dusty boys (magnus always dies t1 due to poor choices by opponent), and in my defense i roll hot. in 2 games, he's killed 1 allarus. thats it. What say you? I gave my telemon two accelerators, in his inaugural game killed some mortars and primaris only to be nuked by a castellan.My opponent had the clever suggestion of giving one captain the bike relic and another the helmet for that sweet 3++. That's what I do, 3++ on both bikes.Round 1 versus eldar with a lynx and dark reapers, I lost 2 spears and table him turn 4. Round 2 magnus/Morty and sorcerer spam, lost 8 spears and tables him turn 4 Round 3 deathguard/1k sons with lots of princes and magnus, he tables me turn 5, but I still win on points. Turn 4 crazy deathguard/1k sons with a bunch of possessed. I'm tabled on 4, losing primary and tertiary but winning secondary. If I hadn't, I would have dropped into 2nd. Took the event with 99bps. Telemon does work, but the achillus is fantastic.. Do you have some info on how you tackled psycher-heavy lists? Also, I am happy that the Achillus seems solid. Got one in the mail along with the Telemon. I roll so many sixes they made me use casino dice. Also, killing the witch seems to work best... The achillus killed a wave serpent in 1 fight phase, dealing 3 mw and 18 additional wounds. The telemon killed 2 demon princes in overwatch. in the same charge phase. 2d6 plasma flamer to the face hurts... Would you recommend an Achillus + Telemon over a Shadowsword? I've been running a 2K list of custodes which is basically an Outrider of 12 bikes (2 of which are Shield Captains) plus a -1 banner Allarus, and then a Supreme Command Detachment with a Commissar (for Catachan doctrine), 2 primaris psykers with both barrier skills (-1 to hit and +1 to saves), and then a techpriest enginseer to heal the Shadowsword. Basically I go against a lot of armour all of the time, and yes, the SS one shots a knight a turn or a dreadnought or two, but mostly it dies before it kills its equal in points. The Supreme Command detachment is a lot of points to dedicate to one-shotting vehicles, and while it does its job, its staying power is quite bad and my opponent almost instantly focuses the SS because its a huge amount of points for me to lose. I feel like spreading my threat across more models with a wider range of use (telemon with plasma flamer and achillus can get stuck in melee as well as shoot) would force my opponent to split a bit more. That said, with the Outrider and Shadowsword comp, I've never actually lost a game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Took 7th overall in the NOVA open GT this past weekend with my bike overload list. Still wiped out from 3 straight days of Warhammer. Well done - congratulations !!! shanewatts 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Took 7th overall in the NOVA open GT this past weekend with my bike overload list. Still wiped out from 3 straight days of Warhammer. Did you play pure or with IG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdemings Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 i've got a 2k event this weekend, and thought i'd share my list. It's not optimized in any way, but it plays lightening fast, and is quite scary. battalion 2 bike captains 3 squads of 3 spears vanguard allarus captain 1 squad 3 terminators achillus dread allarus vexilla w/-1 to hit telemon dread so far it's done decent work against Maggie and his dusty boys (magnus always dies t1 due to poor choices by opponent), and in my defense i roll hot. in 2 games, he's killed 1 allarus. thats it. What say you? I gave my telemon two accelerators, in his inaugural game killed some mortars and primaris only to be nuked by a castellan.My opponent had the clever suggestion of giving one captain the bike relic and another the helmet for that sweet 3++. That's what I do, 3++ on both bikes.Round 1 versus eldar with a lynx and dark reapers, I lost 2 spears and table him turn 4. Round 2 magnus/Morty and sorcerer spam, lost 8 spears and tables him turn 4 Round 3 deathguard/1k sons with lots of princes and magnus, he tables me turn 5, but I still win on points. Turn 4 crazy deathguard/1k sons with a bunch of possessed. I'm tabled on 4, losing primary and tertiary but winning secondary. If I hadn't, I would have dropped into 2nd. Took the event with 99bps. Telemon does work, but the achillus is fantastic.. Do you have some info on how you tackled psycher-heavy lists? Also, I am happy that the Achillus seems solid. Got one in the mail along with the Telemon. I roll so many sixes they made me use casino dice. Also, killing the witch seems to work best... The achillus killed a wave serpent in 1 fight phase, dealing 3 mw and 18 additional wounds. The telemon killed 2 demon princes in overwatch. in the same charge phase. 2d6 plasma flamer to the face hurts... Would you recommend an Achillus + Telemon over a Shadowsword? I've been running a 2K list of custodes which is basically an Outrider of 12 bikes (2 of which are Shield Captains) plus a -1 banner Allarus, and then a Supreme Command Detachment with a Commissar (for Catachan doctrine), 2 primaris psykers with both barrier skills (-1 to hit and +1 to saves), and then a techpriest enginseer to heal the Shadowsword. Basically I go against a lot of armour all of the time, and yes, the SS one shots a knight a turn or a dreadnought or two, but mostly it dies before it kills its equal in points. The Supreme Command detachment is a lot of points to dedicate to one-shotting vehicles, and while it does its job, its staying power is quite bad and my opponent almost instantly focuses the SS because its a huge amount of points for me to lose.I feel like spreading my threat across more models with a wider range of use (telemon with plasma flamer and achillus can get stuck in melee as well as shoot) would force my opponent to split a bit more. That said, with the Outrider and Shadowsword comp, I've never actually lost a game... It's a pretty nasty combo... especially when you deep strike them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanewatts Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Took 7th overall in the NOVA open GT this past weekend with my bike overload list. Still wiped out from 3 straight days of Warhammer. Did you play pure or with IG? I played with a minimum DKOK battalion. Hard to turn down 5cp that ignores morale from shooting casualties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcoon Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 i've got a 2k event this weekend, and thought i'd share my list. It's not optimized in any way, but it plays lightening fast, and is quite scary. battalion 2 bike captains 3 squads of 3 spears vanguard allarus captain 1 squad 3 terminators achillus dread allarus vexilla w/-1 to hit telemon dread so far it's done decent work against Maggie and his dusty boys (magnus always dies t1 due to poor choices by opponent), and in my defense i roll hot. in 2 games, he's killed 1 allarus. thats it. What say you? I gave my telemon two accelerators, in his inaugural game killed some mortars and primaris only to be nuked by a castellan.My opponent had the clever suggestion of giving one captain the bike relic and another the helmet for that sweet 3++. That's what I do, 3++ on both bikes.Round 1 versus eldar with a lynx and dark reapers, I lost 2 spears and table him turn 4. Round 2 magnus/Morty and sorcerer spam, lost 8 spears and tables him turn 4 Round 3 deathguard/1k sons with lots of princes and magnus, he tables me turn 5, but I still win on points. Turn 4 crazy deathguard/1k sons with a bunch of possessed. I'm tabled on 4, losing primary and tertiary but winning secondary. If I hadn't, I would have dropped into 2nd. Took the event with 99bps. Telemon does work, but the achillus is fantastic.. Do you have some info on how you tackled psycher-heavy lists? Also, I am happy that the Achillus seems solid. Got one in the mail along with the Telemon. I roll so many sixes they made me use casino dice. Also, killing the witch seems to work best... The achillus killed a wave serpent in 1 fight phase, dealing 3 mw and 18 additional wounds. The telemon killed 2 demon princes in overwatch. in the same charge phase. 2d6 plasma flamer to the face hurts... Would you recommend an Achillus + Telemon over a Shadowsword? I've been running a 2K list of custodes which is basically an Outrider of 12 bikes (2 of which are Shield Captains) plus a -1 banner Allarus, and then a Supreme Command Detachment with a Commissar (for Catachan doctrine), 2 primaris psykers with both barrier skills (-1 to hit and +1 to saves), and then a techpriest enginseer to heal the Shadowsword. Basically I go against a lot of armour all of the time, and yes, the SS one shots a knight a turn or a dreadnought or two, but mostly it dies before it kills its equal in points. The Supreme Command detachment is a lot of points to dedicate to one-shotting vehicles, and while it does its job, its staying power is quite bad and my opponent almost instantly focuses the SS because its a huge amount of points for me to lose.I feel like spreading my threat across more models with a wider range of use (telemon with plasma flamer and achillus can get stuck in melee as well as shoot) would force my opponent to split a bit more. That said, with the Outrider and Shadowsword comp, I've never actually lost a game... It's a pretty nasty combo... especially when you deep strike them Do you play the Telemon with a single fist and flamer and Illiastus or two fists? I heard taking two fists was largely pointless as you don't get extra attacks and its otherwise an overcosted flamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdemings Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 i've got a 2k event this weekend, and thought i'd share my list. It's not optimized in any way, but it plays lightening fast, and is quite scary. battalion 2 bike captains 3 squads of 3 spears vanguard allarus captain 1 squad 3 terminators achillus dread allarus vexilla w/-1 to hit telemon dread so far it's done decent work against Maggie and his dusty boys (magnus always dies t1 due to poor choices by opponent), and in my defense i roll hot. in 2 games, he's killed 1 allarus. thats it. What say you? I gave my telemon two accelerators, in his inaugural game killed some mortars and primaris only to be nuked by a castellan.My opponent had the clever suggestion of giving one captain the bike relic and another the helmet for that sweet 3++. That's what I do, 3++ on both bikes.Round 1 versus eldar with a lynx and dark reapers, I lost 2 spears and table him turn 4. Round 2 magnus/Morty and sorcerer spam, lost 8 spears and tables him turn 4 Round 3 deathguard/1k sons with lots of princes and magnus, he tables me turn 5, but I still win on points. Turn 4 crazy deathguard/1k sons with a bunch of possessed. I'm tabled on 4, losing primary and tertiary but winning secondary. If I hadn't, I would have dropped into 2nd. Took the event with 99bps. Telemon does work, but the achillus is fantastic.. Do you have some info on how you tackled psycher-heavy lists? Also, I am happy that the Achillus seems solid. Got one in the mail along with the Telemon. I roll so many sixes they made me use casino dice. Also, killing the witch seems to work best... The achillus killed a wave serpent in 1 fight phase, dealing 3 mw and 18 additional wounds. The telemon killed 2 demon princes in overwatch. in the same charge phase. 2d6 plasma flamer to the face hurts... Would you recommend an Achillus + Telemon over a Shadowsword? I've been running a 2K list of custodes which is basically an Outrider of 12 bikes (2 of which are Shield Captains) plus a -1 banner Allarus, and then a Supreme Command Detachment with a Commissar (for Catachan doctrine), 2 primaris psykers with both barrier skills (-1 to hit and +1 to saves), and then a techpriest enginseer to heal the Shadowsword. Basically I go against a lot of armour all of the time, and yes, the SS one shots a knight a turn or a dreadnought or two, but mostly it dies before it kills its equal in points. The Supreme Command detachment is a lot of points to dedicate to one-shotting vehicles, and while it does its job, its staying power is quite bad and my opponent almost instantly focuses the SS because its a huge amount of points for me to lose.I feel like spreading my threat across more models with a wider range of use (telemon with plasma flamer and achillus can get stuck in melee as well as shoot) would force my opponent to split a bit more. That said, with the Outrider and Shadowsword comp, I've never actually lost a game... It's a pretty nasty combo... especially when you deep strike them Do you play the Telemon with a single fist and flamer and Illiastus or two fists? I heard taking two fists was largely pointless as you don't get extra attacks and its otherwise an overcosted flamer. single fist and las-storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brimmstorm Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 i've got a 2k event this weekend, and thought i'd share my list. It's not optimized in any way, but it plays lightening fast, and is quite scary. battalion 2 bike captains 3 squads of 3 spears vanguard allarus captain 1 squad 3 terminators achillus dread allarus vexilla w/-1 to hit telemon dread so far it's done decent work against Maggie and his dusty boys (magnus always dies t1 due to poor choices by opponent), and in my defense i roll hot. in 2 games, he's killed 1 allarus. thats it. What say you? I gave my telemon two accelerators, in his inaugural game killed some mortars and primaris only to be nuked by a castellan.My opponent had the clever suggestion of giving one captain the bike relic and another the helmet for that sweet 3++. That's what I do, 3++ on both bikes.Round 1 versus eldar with a lynx and dark reapers, I lost 2 spears and table him turn 4. Round 2 magnus/Morty and sorcerer spam, lost 8 spears and tables him turn 4 Round 3 deathguard/1k sons with lots of princes and magnus, he tables me turn 5, but I still win on points. Turn 4 crazy deathguard/1k sons with a bunch of possessed. I'm tabled on 4, losing primary and tertiary but winning secondary. If I hadn't, I would have dropped into 2nd. Took the event with 99bps. Telemon does work, but the achillus is fantastic.. Do you have some info on how you tackled psycher-heavy lists? Also, I am happy that the Achillus seems solid. Got one in the mail along with the Telemon. I roll so many sixes they made me use casino dice. Also, killing the witch seems to work best... The achillus killed a wave serpent in 1 fight phase, dealing 3 mw and 18 additional wounds. The telemon killed 2 demon princes in overwatch. in the same charge phase. 2d6 plasma flamer to the face hurts... Would you recommend an Achillus + Telemon over a Shadowsword? I've been running a 2K list of custodes which is basically an Outrider of 12 bikes (2 of which are Shield Captains) plus a -1 banner Allarus, and then a Supreme Command Detachment with a Commissar (for Catachan doctrine), 2 primaris psykers with both barrier skills (-1 to hit and +1 to saves), and then a techpriest enginseer to heal the Shadowsword. Basically I go against a lot of armour all of the time, and yes, the SS one shots a knight a turn or a dreadnought or two, but mostly it dies before it kills its equal in points. The Supreme Command detachment is a lot of points to dedicate to one-shotting vehicles, and while it does its job, its staying power is quite bad and my opponent almost instantly focuses the SS because its a huge amount of points for me to lose.I feel like spreading my threat across more models with a wider range of use (telemon with plasma flamer and achillus can get stuck in melee as well as shoot) would force my opponent to split a bit more. That said, with the Outrider and Shadowsword comp, I've never actually lost a game... It's a pretty nasty combo... especially when you deep strike them Do you play the Telemon with a single fist and flamer and Illiastus or two fists? I heard taking two fists was largely pointless as you don't get extra attacks and its otherwise an overcosted flamer. single fist and las-storm Do you need to take the plasma ejector with the first? I've been looking at getting one each of the dreads so this would be helpful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Don’t do long long quotes anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatGrinder Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Yeh cmon guys, trim it down a little, you dont need 6 quote bubbles for a 5 word answer. Back on topic though, I have a game coming up vs a knight list. Its definately at least 3 knights and a guard battalion. I was considering just not taking my custodes and instead just running my knight-smashing wolves list loaded up on las and hammers. However, I still want to have a go with the golden boys, any suggestions? Least Devotee and BLACK BLΠFLY 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanewatts Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 (edited) Best way golden boys deal with knights that I have found: Vs Gallant - premeasure out his charge (move + advance + 2d6 charge) to make it around a 9-11, whichever makes you viable and still comfortable. Then when he goes for said 9-11 inch charge, tanglefoot grenade and profit. Then you will be set to charge it in mass and murder it. Vs Castellan - bring the vexilla magnifica, the -1 makes dividends. You will need to either go full ham to engage it, or do your best to stay out of line of sight. A solo Castellan can kill you over the course of a game. Vs Valiant - do your best to stay out of flamer range (10" move + 18" range, plus advance if house raven.) If you know you can't stay outta range, or can't afford to, setup a unit out of LoS as best as possible to setup a charge without eating overwatch, and push the rest of your forces in after that charge has been made. Side note : if you have enough bikes or bikes + terrain they can't move through, you can encircle them and they can't leave combat, since you aren't infantry they can't fall back over you. Double side note : custodes are in a good place vs knights, in that they can deal a ton of damage in melee, that ion shield doesn't mean jack vs our melee attacks. Edited September 6, 2018 by shanewatts Frater Cornelius, Prot and BLACK BLΠFLY 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenerationTerrorist Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Ugh, I am having really hard times against anything Psyker-Heavy. Lost two games this week against Thousand Sons and another one against Tyranids. I refuse to do the CP farming, purely for fluff/aesthetic reasons, so am running a Battalion Detachment, and my list for the past 6 months has been: Trajan Bike Captain (Salvo Launcher and Relic Bike) 3*3 Spear Guardians 3 Allarus with Axes 2*Dreads with Kheres AC 5*Vertus with Bolters I love Trajan, but I am tempted to drop him for a regular Axe Allarus Captain and give him the Grenade Launcher Relic, plus an extra Bike. Trajan Deep Strikes in, so the extra CP for the Relic on the regular Captain wouldn't make a difference. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordofmandulis Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Ugh, I am having really hard times against anything Psyker-Heavy. Lost two games this week against Thousand Sons and another one against Tyranids. I refuse to do the CP farming, purely for fluff/aesthetic reasons, so am running a Battalion Detachment, and my list for the past 6 months has been: Trajan Bike Captain (Salvo Launcher and Relic Bike) 3*3 Spear Guardians 3 Allarus with Axes 2*Dreads with Kheres AC 5*Vertus with Bolters I love Trajan, but I am tempted to drop him for a regular Axe Allarus Captain and give him the Grenade Launcher Relic, plus an extra Bike. Trajan Deep Strikes in, so the extra CP for the Relic on the regular Captain wouldn't make a difference. It's definitely a problem. Trajann is awesome.but too expensive and can be very susceptible to mortal wounds. Drop him for sure. Spend a CP to bring to bring a culexus assassin and take the impregnable mind warlord trait, as nice as it is to have the 5+ fnp or -1 to hit, a couple of key denials will really help. Least Devotee 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 (edited) All Custodes (HQ included) are susceptible to MW as is any unit in the game so that is not a good reason not to take him. Positioning is how you stop your characters from being the target of enemy smites . Edited September 6, 2018 by Black Orange Least Devotee and Prot 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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