Karack Blackstone Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 When, “Looks bad, man,” is objectively verifiable through lack of desgner internal context, things are very different than just, “Me no like, fix.” Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344171-upside-down-bolter-on-the-grey-hunter-upgrade-pack-2/page/4/#findComment-5006389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Not my email, but figured would be of interest: Oops: Noserenda and Arminius_Warbringer 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344171-upside-down-bolter-on-the-grey-hunter-upgrade-pack-2/page/4/#findComment-5006425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runefyre Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I applaud FW's efforts here, maybe there's hope yet for a change to the varagyr kit down the line! Arminius_Warbringer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344171-upside-down-bolter-on-the-grey-hunter-upgrade-pack-2/page/4/#findComment-5006436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Not my email, but figured would be of interest: Oops: I think the alarming thing about this is the fact that two emails got separate responses. Forgeworld did make a mistake but I dont think they had any intention of acknowledging it without the amount of noise made by the community. Khornestar and Karack Blackstone 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344171-upside-down-bolter-on-the-grey-hunter-upgrade-pack-2/page/4/#findComment-5006485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucerne Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) A bit like praetor, the learneans at the moment FW seem to have given the latest design choices to the work experience kids Whoever designed Angelos for them should find another line of work. ... There's a rumor that the sculptor quit. If true, I'd feel bad about that. The Varagyr's heads didn't all look like they were placed logically in that armor, but I thought they were well sculpted, and would've liked that guy to do heads for the White Scars. There've been other models that looked fine except for oversized heads, like that Blood Ravens guy or the new shield-captain. But yeah, these bolters and the Varagyr/praetor's issues seem rushed. Which is probably what happened. but if so, good riddance. Edited February 8, 2018 by Ugolino Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344171-upside-down-bolter-on-the-grey-hunter-upgrade-pack-2/page/4/#findComment-5006491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Not my email, but figured would be of interest: Oops: I think the alarming thing about this is the fact that two emails got separate responses. Forgeworld did make a mistake but I dont think they had any intention of acknowledging it without the amount of noise made by the community. Long term, things like this issue come back to the old point of, internal confirmation bias is always a risk, especially until all internal context and confirmation bias potential are ruled out by seeking an outside opinion. That two different emails got different responses is somewhat worrying; however, without the first, would we ever have really gotten to the second? I wonder, and that, is the real crux of this matter. Sure, my email may have led to the right inquiry, it also might have been the sheer weight of emails, of which two stand out, that we currently know of. I am glad to see them willing to do the right thing by their customers. That, and above all, providing proper bits is a great step to show that, "Hey, we goofed." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344171-upside-down-bolter-on-the-grey-hunter-upgrade-pack-2/page/4/#findComment-5006511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 PSA: THIS EMAIL IS FAKE. CONFIRMED ON FACEBOOK BY A FORGE WORLD EMPLOYEE. Not my email, but figured would be of interest: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344171-upside-down-bolter-on-the-grey-hunter-upgrade-pack-2/page/4/#findComment-5007131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 LOL :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344171-upside-down-bolter-on-the-grey-hunter-upgrade-pack-2/page/4/#findComment-5007242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Hahahaha, of course it is Look at the recent Wolf releases, it’s obv that quality control isn’t present Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344171-upside-down-bolter-on-the-grey-hunter-upgrade-pack-2/page/4/#findComment-5007331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 PSA: THIS EMAIL IS FAKE. CONFIRMED ON FACEBOOK BY A FORGE WORLD EMPLOYEE. Not my email, but figured would be of interest: Just wanted to say I emailed FW about the email. Trusting a random guy on FB is just as trustworthy as a random email pic. FW did confirm it is, sadly, a fake. I'd rather not post a pic of my email, sorry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344171-upside-down-bolter-on-the-grey-hunter-upgrade-pack-2/page/4/#findComment-5008087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Sad really, id hoped they could learn from this rather than doubling down :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344171-upside-down-bolter-on-the-grey-hunter-upgrade-pack-2/page/4/#findComment-5008121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 This was a chance the "New GW" was responding to consumer feedback and "fixing" what they did. All we learn from this was that at least FW will not adjust direction once they have finalized a product. What's funny is that being open with their consumers and showing off the product 3d sculpt before production would have resolved this issue. We also suspect FW QA may be slipping, let us hope not and it is just this set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344171-upside-down-bolter-on-the-grey-hunter-upgrade-pack-2/page/4/#findComment-5008290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sothalor Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 This was a chance the "New GW" was responding to consumer feedback and "fixing" what they did. All we learn from this was that at least FW will not adjust direction once they have finalized a product. What's funny is that being open with their consumers and showing off the product 3d sculpt before production would have resolved this issue. We also suspect FW QA may be slipping, let us hope not and it is just this set. To be fair, Forgeworld's QA when it comes to the final resin product shipping out to the customers' hands has historically been a bit of a flaming fecal pile. This is just them implementing practices to be consistent in-house, too! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344171-upside-down-bolter-on-the-grey-hunter-upgrade-pack-2/page/4/#findComment-5008310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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