Beams Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 2 things I saw from the video... 1st the penitent engines where there.. now are they going to stay the same as they are now faction keyword wise? 2nd the Imagifier was in a squad...now is it thats how they have them painted OR are they going back to being a unit upgrade? Or am I just reading to much into the video :( I'm pretty sure it was just a picture of the generic sisters of battle squad box they sell on the site. As for Veridyan, she's prolly just a generic Cannoness, though I wouldn't be upset if she had rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5184545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkde Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Disappointed in the bloody rose trait, but also curious to see how it will tie into some of the melee focused options (repentia, penitant if they get order keyword and celestians/melee seraphim). Also, does anyone else see the Bloody Rose trait as a PMS reference? Way to be inclusive GW... Hoping for a buff to handflamers, as right now they're garbage. Whoo 1 CP to shoot them...once, but could be good for large squad of bolt pistol ladies. 20+ bolter shots would take a bite out of hiding infantry/help clear backfield objectives. Had higher hopes based on all the shenanigans and traits the ork codex has, but at least gw seems like they're trying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5184568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beams Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Disappointed in the bloody rose trait, but also curious to see how it will tie into some of the melee focused options (repentia, penitant if they get order keyword and celestians/melee seraphim). Also, does anyone else see the Bloody Rose trait as a PMS reference? Way to be inclusive GW... Hoping for a buff to handflamers, as right now they're garbage. Whoo 1 CP to shoot them...once, but could be good for large squad of bolt pistol ladies. 20+ bolter shots would take a bite out of hiding infantry/help clear backfield objectives. Had higher hopes based on all the shenanigans and traits the ork codex has, but at least gw seems like they're trying. It's a little bit of a reach with the PMS. Also, that trait makes Celestians go from 2 WS 3+ Str 3 attacks to 3 WS 3+ Str 4 attacks and with a priest 4 attacks. It makes an eviscerator Cannoness (57 pts) jump from 4 attacks at Str 6 Ap-4 d3 damage to 5 at Str 8, making her wound everything on at least a 4+, Marines on a 2+, and with a priest hit with 6!! Attacks. It might not be the trait for your playstyles, but it takes our potential for melee, which was always good but always limitee to our exclusively melee units, and opens up a whole new avenue and effectiveness. My Cannoness was already known as a blender, but with that trait she's going to hit so hard above her weight Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5184625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drider Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 if only they bring back something like the sororitas command squad or something to let you kit out a unit with some power weapons. Blade of Admonition becomes s6 -3 3dP.axe s5 -2 1dp.maul s6 -1 1dp.sword s4 -3 1d Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5184636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracpanzer Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Looking forward to seeing how the other traditions look. Is CA really only about a month away? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5184637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drider Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 it must be if they've kicked the hype train into rules previews mode. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5184649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrus Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I wasnt impressed with the conviction when i girst saw it. The more i think about it, the more i see how nice it is. Makes me glad i made my order made from a combining of elements from argent shroud and bloody rose. Looking forward to seeing what argent shroud has and deciding which to go with. All i know is ive got a spare cannoness waiting to be put together and shes screaming for an eviscerator all the more now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5184786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I was in a six player Apocalypse game today at my FLGS and the guys had no issues with me trying out the Bloody Rose conviction. I must admiot the +1 STR and +1 Attack came in very handy for my canoness with the Blade of Admonition. My other canoness with the eviscerator never got into melee. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5184800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrus Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 How great would it be if sister superiors could take eviscerators again? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5184829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 It's funny that Bloody rose can run 9ppm 3+ save ork boyz.We don't know what CA will do to the points. And considering that you only get that during the first round of combat, Sisters are still generally worse at melee than the Orks (who are S/T4 now compared to the Sisters 3, also Orks hit on 3+s in melee and have exploding dice options). So no, we don't have 9ppm 3+ save boyz, we have 9ppm 3+ save Guardsmen who can hit like Marines during the first round of combat. Could you be more of a wet blanket dude? It was an amusing comparative anecdote, no need to get all huffy about it. Besides that, the whole 'UM, ACSHULLLY!!!' thing wasn't super necessary either. There was absolutely no point to this comment, especially considering the fact that you didn't do anything but regurgitate statlines. Sorry, I'm still a bit annoyed by how much crying I've seen from Ork players just because their codex isn't Ynarri levels of broken despite being the best codex I've seen from GW in terms of internal balance and playability. Basically this has been my reaction to Ork stuff posted online lately because of it: Anyways, some basic speculation for Sacred Rose: They're the disciplined shooting order so they're likely going to reroll 1s to hit, maybe ignore penalties for moving and fire heavy weapons on infantry or something as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5184839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrus Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Obviously GW isnt afraid to let sisters flamers have increased range to an extent. Im curious to see if we're going to get any other strats to help out the humble flamer? And now the excruciating wait till CA is made even worse with these teasers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5184978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 We aren't here to talk about the Ork Codex or the way Ork players are reacting right now. Back on topic please. Obviously GW isnt afraid to let sisters flamers have increased range to an extent. Im curious to see if we're going to get any other strats to help out the humble flamer? And now the excruciating wait till CA is made even worse with these teasers. I am getting more impatient about how things are going to be for the Codex. That said, the year has flown by. It's not much longer ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5184981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 A shoot twice strat is basically a given. I could see some kind of benefit that lets us maximize number of shots on a model/unit that has to roll the number of shots as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5185095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drider Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 nah, we'll not get a shoot twice strat. We already have that baked in with AoF. We'll get a shoot better strat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5185142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 nah, we'll not get a shoot twice strat. We already have that baked in with AoF. We'll get a shoot better strat. That comes down to how GW handles AoF since they haven't managed to leave the system unchanged with every update so far. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5185166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrus Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Hoping that Celestine gets something to let her be taken in any sisters Order without breaking the bonuses. If she is given OoOML order keyword, thats going to be a bit of a blow to us non martyred lady players. Hence why i hope she can be taken in any order or have a generic living saint option. Just had a thought. Be cool if there was a stratagem to make a character a living saint! 2 or 3 CP cost to boost the character in some way. Maybe like +1 to most stats or a faith bubble like celestine. Cannoness and Palatyne dataslate entries could still exist and then the living saint strat. Would rather that than haaving palatine dataslate and cannoness strat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5185226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 I can't see why we can't have both a Canoness and Palatine HQ option to be honest. I spoke to Robin Cruddace and said as much. We need at least one other HQ option for those of us who dont want to take Jacobus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5185229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekhitar Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Celestine right now doesn't have an <Order>... I imagine she won't get one, but won't break an <Order> if you take her as an HQ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5185251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
robofish7591 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 With lieutenants being added for space marines, I would be surprised if we didn't get a palatine option. The question is if we will see any of those options that don't have models yet in the beta rules, or will GW hold off on those and only put them in the actual codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5185254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I want a Palatine, but I would be shocked if we got one myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5185588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekhitar Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I have the old confessor model, and was not at all surprised to see him redone for BSF. I wonder what kind of rules he will get in our beta dex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5185663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beams Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I have the old confessor model, and was not at all surprised to see him redone for BSF. I wonder what kind of rules he will get in our beta dex. I'd bet on him being a Ministorum Priest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5185666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekhitar Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 You could be right - but if they plan on including Ministorum in our dex (and the video has a penitent engine, so I expect they will) it’s an easy way to sneak the mode in for a different ministorum hq/elite. ETA: the model is 50pts in BSF, which is quite a bit more than a priest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5185862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beams Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 You could be right - but if they plan on including Ministorum in our dex (and the video has a penitent engine, so I expect they will) it’s an easy way to sneak the mode in for a different ministorum hq/elite. ETA: the model is 50pts in BSF, which is quite a bit more than a priest. It's possible he could have special rules in Blackstone. It also would be nice to see Eccliasarchy fledged out, sinve you can /almost/ take a full no sisters eccliasarchy army... With the new Missionary Pious and the new fat priest, I'm cautious about hoping for at least a little expansion, even if things like Arcos don't get updated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5185981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracpanzer Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 All the Blackstone units are coming with 40k data-slates, so if anything they'll be available for addition to the Ministorum list pre CA beta dex. With the releases coming a few weeks apart, is it possible they were intending to include ministorum with sororitas all along? Though with the tease that PenEngines will be in the beta dex, they should at least get a re-vamp. With the Missionary Zealot from BSF, new preacher/confessor type, a Ministorum detachment might be worth it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/13/#findComment-5186223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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