dracpanzer Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I dont like the boy wonder haircut. Hope they also bring back the fleur designator for something like Celestians and Sister Superiors. We aren't working with new models for the CA dex. Give us a 2nd troop choice (even cheaper Repentia) and a second HQ. Then maybe spice up the usual suspects a bit rules wise. With Vect doing what he does, having just two faction Strategems can get un fun fast. Fix that, better AoF scaling and range (however they do it) and we'll be set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5157548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Some of the previewed heads i like and some i think meh. I absolutely love love LOVE the one with the habit/cowl. I really like the one with the open visor helm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5157591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 From GW: "This year’s Chapter Approved will feature a beta codex for the Adepta Sororitas – and we’re inviting you to try it out. You’ll have access to a huge pool of units, Stratagems, Relics and Warlord Traits to represent the orders of the Adepta Sororitas in your games – and your feedback on how you find them will help us make the final codex as awesome as it can possibly be." -Order specific rules perhaps? If that is what "to represent the orders of the Adepta Soroitas" means. I do note that they did not capitalize the word 'orders' so perhaps this is not the case. -And I need to find out how to provide feedback! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5157635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrus Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 See the open helm one im on the fence about. It looks like a tricky thing to paint and a bit odd (because have never seen it) though it is something marines cant do. Probably would suit a character better- more of a feature head. My thought anyways. Aside from bumping BSS back up to squad of min 10 to get their current loadouts thus giving back celestians their niche of msu, i dont know a decent fix for celestians. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5157639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracpanzer Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 See the open helm one im on the fence about. It looks like a tricky thing to paint and a bit odd (because have never seen it) though it is something marines cant do. Probably would suit a character better- more of a feature head. My thought anyways. Aside from bumping BSS back up to squad of min 10 to get their current loadouts thus giving back celestians their niche of msu, i dont know a decent fix for celestians. I really hope they don't go with that idea.... Easy fix is just to give Celestians the same wargear options as the Canoness Command Squad from the 7ed IA list. CA list won't benefit from new models, so giving Celestians a large toolbox of equipment would allow a player to pick and choose to make them the unit they need (or three). I think if they gave Celestians the exact same stats and actual wargear options they would be well worth the points. I hate the bodyguard rule, no thanks. Perhaps instead, allow any unit within 6" of a Celestian squad to use an AoF gained by a friendly Imagifer that turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5157664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxlight713 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 From GW: "This year’s Chapter Approved will feature a beta codex for the Adepta Sororitas – and we’re inviting you to try it out. You’ll have access to a huge pool of units, Stratagems, Relics and Warlord Traits to represent the orders of the Adepta Sororitas in your games – and your feedback on how you find them will help us make the final codex as awesome as it can possibly be." -Order specific rules perhaps? If that is what "to represent the orders of the Adepta Soroitas" means. I do note that they did not capitalize the word 'orders' so perhaps this is not the case. -And I need to find out how to provide feedback! Would be cool if the 6 orders got their own chapter tactics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5157671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 See the open helm one im on the fence about. It looks like a tricky thing to paint and a bit odd (because have never seen it) though it is something marines cant do. Probably would suit a character better- more of a feature head. My thought anyways. Aside from bumping BSS back up to squad of min 10 to get their current loadouts thus giving back celestians their niche of msu, i dont know a decent fix for celestians. For Celestians I'm thinking allow them the option of a Sarissa which takes the form of a bayonet, granting them +1 Strength in melee. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5157673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorthaur Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I really like the open visor helm, and the helmet design overall. It's inspired by a medieval sallet helmet to some degree which could also do something similar where the visor lifts. It's never been shown before in the past, possibly due to sculpting tech or no one thought to try and pull it off. Not too hard to paint either, just work from the inside out, helmet last. I don't like that top middle head though, the hair and anime chin just looks off not to mention the face expression. Hopefully they scrap that one and keep the rest. A couple of em have pig-like noses too which is weird, the one with the eye patch would be my favorite if not for that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5157725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isolia Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 The open helm gives us the opportunity to model a sister on a horse as a knight (or dame, rather ;) ), a sister at fencing class, or a sister on scooter with the marvellously dangerous opening-jaw-cover vespa helmet :D I'm excited about trying our rules and having my feedback actually read! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5157764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 That is a very good point made by Montford...... when /how will they gather the feedback? Will they ask for it split down to match play v open play v tournament play? for example Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5157782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I like the open helm, the wimple one and the eye patch one. From GW: "This year’s Chapter Approved will feature a beta codex for the Adepta Sororitas – and we’re inviting you to try it out. You’ll have access to a huge pool of units, Stratagems, Relics and Warlord Traits to represent the orders of the Adepta Sororitas in your games – and your feedback on how you find them will help us make the final codex as awesome as it can possibly be." 2001 - Everyone else who had a 2nd ed Codex has a third ed one but you have to chill with Necrons in Chapter Approved until we get you both codexes. 2003 - You're out of Chapter approved and you're getting some new models but only in an Inquisition book. Deathwatch and Kroot can chill in your old place until they get the Alien Hunters book we're definitely going to make. 2016 - Deathwatch get a Codex, sorry sisters. 2018 - You're getting new models honest, but for now you're going back into Chapter approved. Since you were last here Deathwatch have had two codexes and Necrons have had 4. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5157866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 2001 - Everyone else who had a 2nd ed Codex has a third ed one but you have to chill with Necrons in Chapter Approved until we get you both codexes. 2003 - You're out of Chapter approved and you're getting some new models but only in an Inquisition book. Deathwatch and Kroot can chill in your old place until they get the Alien Hunters book we're definitely going to make. 2016 - Deathwatch get a Codex, sorry sisters. 2018 - You're getting new models honest, but for now you're going back into Chapter approved. Since you were last here Deathwatch have had two codexes and Necrons have had 4. This may possibly be why I relish the victories of my Index army over those who have a Codex army, not that I might be a teensy bit vindictive ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5157899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Also why I'm looking forward to the CA mini dex.... the first time the girls have been in print (not counting the WD thing...) in 15 years! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5157937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekhitar Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Since we are promised relics - what do you think will join the Blade? Figure any chance of a relic banner for imagifiers that procs an AoF on a 2+? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5158037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Here is my guesses at the relics and their abilities Cloak of St Aspira (+1 to Shield of Faith or Invulnerable save or Feel no pain) Book of St. Lucius (Free Act of Faith) Prasidium Protective (storm shield where a save of 6 reflects hit back into attack unit) Tears of Dolan (anti psyker grenade) Specter of Vengeance (Power Maul replacement- increased strength, damage, ap, and has a flamer built in or if they really wanted too counts as TH like in 2nd ed) Axe of Retribution (Power Axe upgrade- better stats) HOLY TRINITY (Combi melta, Flamer, Bolter that Kills any non adepta sororitas unit that looks at it on the table.....JOKING) Scared Banner of the Order Militant (Imagifiers only, grants the imagifier the Astartes Ancient ability) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5158063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I'd guess that we'll get something along the lines of: cloak of St. Aspia (+1 to armour save) the censure (power maul / flamer) wings of faith (grants fly and move 12") a book which grants a 2nd army wide AoF 2 or 3 Order specific relics a banner for the Celestines (yeah a relic that cant be taken by a character but rather a unit..... unique in the game) other things I reckon we'll get are weapon choices for the mistress, along with arcoflagelents and penitant engines, a stragem that adds plus 1 to AoF roll (if they havent totally altered the AoF mechanic) new units: - a noviette troops choice a 2nd close combat unit with the <order> keyword repressors in the army list edit - warlord traits... another 5 to go with the one from last years CA 1 will be an extra attack on a 6 for <order> in 6" 2 extra move or dont count as moving on AoF movement for units in 6" 3 either -1 AP or +1 to wound in combat for units in 6" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5158064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Since we are promised relics - what do you think will join the Blade? Figure any chance of a relic banner for imagifiers that procs an AoF on a 2+? I never even imagined an Imagifier like that but I love it!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5158136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrus Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Would love there to be some sort of bonus army wide to reflect the holy trinity. Fantasy would be: Bolters reroll hit rolls of 1 Flamers reroll number of hits Melta reroll failed wound rolls of 1. Absolute fantasy but you get the idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5158332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Maybe not such a fantasy in light of the chapter specific Adeptus Astartes abilities, or Craftworld Eldar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5158351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I like the idea of stratagems for each third of the holy trinity :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5158488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekhitar Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I agree that there will be strats for the 3. Hubs and I were speculating while on the road today (Labor Day vacation plans) - we thought ignores cover with flamers and the space marines heavy bolters strat likely; maybe reroll 1s to wound with melta. I speculated that OOoML would get the reroll 1s/reroll all to hits with battle sisters we see in Ultramarines and Black Legion, as a strat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5158491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I mean I think that the Order of the Ebon Chalice should get the “generic” order rule since they’re the first order more or less OML just happens to be the GW studio army for Sisters Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5158661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 That's if gw don't rewrite the fluff for OML and Ebony Chalice.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5159139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracpanzer Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I would be surprised if the CA Beta Dex has any room available for a fluff re-write. I also hope that they don't just give us marine lite order traits, if that's all they intend to do, just skip it please. Faith is our core mechanic. I would love if any order traits we get (if?) focused on how that Order interacts with our AoF rules. Even going so far as the preferred units of a given order generating an AoF for themselves on a 5+. Sacred Rose Retributors possibly generating their own AoF would be very cool. Bloody Rose Dominion squads, Argent Shroud Seraphim, Valorous Heart Repentia. Ebon Chalice Celestians(?), OoMartyred Lady(?)... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5159181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Now previous posts have made me remember Karamazov's Assault Multi Melta. What if we got something like that, perhaps as a Stratagem for Retributors, or for a MM armed Immolator? Ultimately I think I'll be pleased that the Sisters are going to be 'Real' to GW. Whatever happens, please do NOT lump us back in with the Inquisition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347326-sisters-speculation-topic/page/8/#findComment-5159224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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