hopkins Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 There's more than one in Slaves To Darkness and they are incredible! John French does it again! No spoilers though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 From what I've heard, it's Pert vs. Angron and Lorgar vs. Fulgrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedor Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 The first Fulgrim vs Ferrus is easily the worst imo.McNeil was obviously going for the safe option of having each primarch win one fight, but Fulgrim not mentally able to kill Ferrus in the one he wins and saved by the extra power of the Laer Blade when he's going to lose the rematch. The first fight is a wasted scene though. You've got the awful attempt to sway Ferrus, dubious dialogue where Fulgrim tells Ferrus about Lorgar and co already being traitors, and in the actual fight Ferrus gets a cut across his cheek and a few punches to the face before knocking himself unconscious by grabbing and blowing up Fireblade. This is meant to be one of most martial, physically imposing and unrelenting of the Primarchs, yet he gives in to a desperate gambit after a flesh wound and a few punches? Mcneil really fails to earn the symbolism he's going for and "i made this sword and i can break it too" line. Granted a lot of the mentions of Ferrus possessing those traits came after this, but Graham had already set him up as a physical powerhouse and warlord, not a pre-isstvan Lorgar of the forge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc warhammer Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 slightly off topic, but for charismatic demi gods, i find the primarchs attempts to sway each other either to chaos or back to the imperium to be pretty pedestrian so far. i'd love to have seen a discussion where one primarch almost convinces another (as can happen between friends, family...hell telemarketers can do). so far its all been fairly unconvincing for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Well, there was the discussion between the Khan and the fragment of Magnus in Scars, that's the best one so far. All others seem to be rushed through so they can fit it into a single chapter, even better if they can include an awesome fight scene quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc warhammer Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 yeah, totally agree but from memory that was not so much a “join us!!!” pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Didn't the Khan try to convince Magnus to join them, rather than sitting in the ruins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc warhammer Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 maybe...like i said...from memory. though the khan was also still making up his mind no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 Only a few of the primarchs are truly charismatic...some are downright insufferable They don't have the benefit of transhuman awe when interacting with other primarchs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc warhammer Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 even so, i’d expect a genius level intellect to put together a compelling argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Only a few of the primarchs are truly charismatic...some are downright insufferable They don't have the benefit of transhuman awe when interacting with other primarchs I would rather blame plot line and some BL author's skills (or concept)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc warhammer Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 on that point, i like that some of the primarchs are socially inept. which is to say, i think that was the right choice on the writers part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 The Lion vs Curze was enjoyable as I’m sure he did the back breaker (if I remember correctly) My favourite was Dorn vs Alpharius. Taking his arms off with a single swipe was impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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