Taliesin Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Has anyone started yet on the limited edition? I'm a bit on the fence, it looks really intriguing story wise and Haley is a fine writer. I'd get the regular hardcover anyway but might consider the LE if I like what I hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I’ve bought it, it’s still in the warp but it will probably be a while before I get round to reading it. My enthusiasm for the series has somewhat waned as the last few have been pretty awful. The last good one was the Khan. But stupidily I bought into the limited ed series and am stuck there. Haley’s usually pretty good so I’ve high hopes for this, Corax is a great character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roomsky Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I’ve bought it, it’s still in the warp but it will probably be a while before I get round to reading it. My enthusiasm for the series has somewhat waned as the last few have been pretty awful. The last good one was the Khan. But stupidily I bought into the limited ed series and am stuck there. Haley’s usually pretty good so I’ve high hopes for this, Corax is a great character *checks the release schedule* Well, Vulkan's the only one between Khan and Corax, so that ain't so bad. Haley's decent enough, but if Perturabo's any indication this one should have more than a few flashes of brilliance. I'm just glad he bought into the premise of different authors tackling the primarchs than usual; for all his brilliance I would have preferred to see Wraight apply his skills to primarchs he's not written before, his Lion was the best part of Russ. Gav had some neat ideas, but considering how tight he likes his continuity I'm glad Haley got a chance to write Corax in a more "normal" scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I’ve bought it, it’s still in the warp but it will probably be a while before I get round to reading it. My enthusiasm for the series has somewhat waned as the last few have been pretty awful. The last good one was the Khan. But stupidily I bought into the limited ed series and am stuck there. Haley’s usually pretty good so I’ve high hopes for this, Corax is a great character *checks the release schedule* Well, Vulkan's the only one between Khan and Corax, so that ain't so bad. Haley's decent enough, but if Perturabo's any indication this one should have more than a few flashes of brilliance. I'm just glad he bought into the premise of different authors tackling the primarchs than usual; for all his brilliance I would have preferred to see Wraight apply his skills to primarchs he's not written before, his Lion was the best part of Russ. Gav had some neat ideas, but considering how tight he likes his continuity I'm glad Haley got a chance to write Corax in a more "normal" scenario. Haha, your right. It’s been vulkan and ferrus I suppose that’s given me a bad taste. I thought Khan was before these. Surely Gav will get the Lion? I want some secrets revealed on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Please let someone else tackle Lion...no more Thorpe. How about ADB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orwell84 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Please let someone else tackle Lion...no more Thorpe. How about ADB? Seconded. Or Haley, Wraight, French, Abnett,.. somebody who can take a fresh look at the Lion. I read somewhere a while back that one of the guidelines BL had for this series was that a given Primarch would ideally be written by an author not usually associated with that particular character. That idea hasn't been strictly followed, with mixed results - Wraight still did brilliantly with the Khan, while Magnus really could've used a fresh author (IMHO) - but Haley / Perturabo, Reynolds / Fulgrim and Thorpe / Lorgar all proved to be good combos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NocturnalAnimal Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Half-tempted to order this along with the Corax model tomorrow. Any thoughts so far on this from anyone with a copy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Please let someone else tackle Lion...no more Thorpe. How about ADB? Seconded. Or Haley, Wraight, French, Abnett,.. somebody who can take a fresh look at the Lion. I read somewhere a while back that one of the guidelines BL had for this series was that a given Primarch would ideally be written by an author not usually associated with that particular character. That idea hasn't been strictly followed, with mixed results - Wraight still did brilliantly with the Khan, while Magnus really could've used a fresh author (IMHO) - but Haley / Perturabo, Reynolds / Fulgrim and Thorpe / Lorgar all proved to be good combos. At a recent seminar, someone in attendance reported that James Swallow said he's doing the Sanguinius one. Pattern not followed there, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 In the Emperor's name...I was hoping for anyone other than James Swallow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I was hoping Wraight mostly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I was hoping Wraight mostly What we need to do is figure out how to get the criminal underworld to pay for a series of cloning vats so we can get multiple Chris Wraights...speed up the process there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 In the Emperor's name...I was hoping for anyone other than James Swallow I’m with you here. Guy Haley has done such an amazing job with Dante I would have loved to see him have a go at the BAs primarch. It would have been a perfect opportunity to tie in much of the BA background we have seen emerge from his Dante books back to the primarch. Real pitty, opportunity wasted imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roomsky Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I was hoping Wraight mostly What we need to do is figure out how to get the criminal underworld to pay for a series of cloning vats so we can get multiple Chris Wraights...speed up the process there... Thus was the tragedy of Apothecary Vaddon, so eager was he to clone a fresh force of Chris Wraights, who could write faster and more consistently than the original, that he made only a legion of monsters, writing bloated and malformed narratives. They say his final act was to destroy each of their first drafts personally. Before disappearing into the Eye of Terror, the final word to leave his lips was simply: "Nevermore." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Or maybe we could abduct Bernard Cornwell and make him do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I was hoping Wraight mostly What we need to do is figure out how to get the criminal underworld to pay for a series of cloning vats so we can get multiple Chris Wraights...speed up the process there... Thus was the tragedy of Apothecary Vaddon, so eager was he to clone a fresh force of Chris Wraights, who could write faster and more consistently than the original, that he made only a legion of monsters, writing bloated and malformed narratives. They say his final act was to destroy each of their first drafts personally. Before disappearing into the Eye of Terror, the final word to leave his lips was simply: "Nevermore." Fabius Bile origin story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa.logan Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I liked it; there is an awful lot going on in it, and several really good POV characters. Until the last chapter it felt like a much longer book than it actually was, as seems to happen pretty often the ending felt a little rushed. So many of the Primarchs have complicated relationships with their homeworlds, and this one goes some way into exploring Corax’s. I think this is what this series does best- I hope that the books for the Lion, Mortarion and Curze take similar approaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 In terms of page count, how many does this one feature? More like Perturabo / Lorgar or more like Guiliman, Russ? Seems like this will be a one, I'll pick up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH79 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 In terms of page count, how many does this one feature? More like Perturabo / Lorgar or more like Guiliman, Russ? Seems like this will be a one, I'll pick up. According to BL & Amazon it's got a 224 page count, so bang on the same length as Vulkan, Jaghatai, Ferrus, Fulgrim & Pertie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Started this today, the opening chapter at the party is superb. That’s the way Coraxs people should be potrayed. Authors have never utilised the Ravens special forces vengeance thing. Hopefully that vibe keeps up for the rest of the book. Haley’s ability to knock out quality and quantity without it being overly formulated is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Seems I misjudged the party chapter..... book gets better and better. Haley is superb, and the Raven Guard glorious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Raven Guard are like Night Lords who rely more on discipline than on terrorising mortals...really wanna see the RG shine in the hands of another authour (i.e. not Thorpe). Looks like wish granted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Always had a soft spot for the RG, looking forward to the regular release of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Raven Guard are like Night Lords who rely more on discipline than on terrorising mortals...really wanna see the RG shine in the hands of another authour (i.e. not Thorpe). Looks like wish granted That's not really true. Raven guard are all about asymmetrical warfare to bring about victory. All the sneaky sneaks is just to win and bring liberation or compliance. Night Lords use terror and impact to bring about victory. All the butchering and over the top torture is the criminology concept of general deterrence on a planetary or system wide scale. Stealth isnt about not being seen for them, but to create suspense up until the big reveal. Like a slasher film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Raven Guard are like Night Lords who rely more on discipline than on terrorising mortals...really wanna see the RG shine in the hands of another authour (i.e. not Thorpe). Looks like wish granted Guy briefly deals with the similarities in the book. I think he gets the relationship between the two legions really well and along similar lines to what I think you are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashur Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Excelent news. Corax is one of my favorites but I've been disapointed by every RG book. This gives me hope. Is there any sign that the book was influenced by the FW HH rulebooks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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