NatBrannigan Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 It could be a case of not upsetting the die hard regular Marine fans any more than needed. If Intercessors were bigger, tougher, with better bolt weapons AND could take a heavy weapon, special weapon and a few melee options, the Tactical Squad would be dead (when the inevitable Primaris Rhino equivalent comes out). At least now there is a reason to take either squad. I quite like the legion inspired loadout as well. A bit different and as already mentioned, easier to balance with a points tweak without unintended impact elsewhere. The HQ (and Sargent) options though, totally on board with the moaning. Starting a Primaris Spacewolf army and the Lieutenant options are plain odd! Bolt Rifle, Bolt Rifle and free chainsword, Axe and Bolt Carbine. Those are the 3 options. 1 is nonsense because why would you ever NOT go for the free chainsword? Even if you have the model that only has a rifle so I assume is responsible for the option, what opponent would ever object to you getting your extra chainsword attack anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 It could be a case of not upsetting the die hard regular Marine fans any more than needed. If Intercessors were bigger, tougher, with better bolt weapons AND could take a heavy weapon, special weapon and a few melee options, the Tactical Squad would be dead (when the inevitable Primaris Rhino equivalent comes out). At least now there is a reason to take either squad. I doubt that. That would mean GW would have to retire the current sprues and release new Intercessor sprues eventually. Also I don't think giving Primaris Marines Heavy weapons and such would change anything about people liking or not liking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Think you misunderstood me, i'm not saying Intecessors will get those options eventually, I'm saying they're never going to get a Heavy / special weapon and part of the reason might be so they don't overlap too much with tactical Marines. I like Intercessors etc just as they are, the basic Primaris troops are great if currently limited in choice, and that issue will go away as the army develops. I can only hope the restrictive and slightly stange character loadouts do as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I indeed misread your sentence. My apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Looks like everyone's on the same page so when do we march on Nottingham HQ? I think we all meet at 09:00 for Breakfast at Bugmans, then head outside and march round and round the Rhino with a catchy chant: "What do we want!?" "More options for Primaris HQ's and Sergeants not restricted to individually available models!" "When do we want it!?" "Soon! ish! if it's not too much trouble! Thankyou!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I'm fine with characters having limited weapon options right now because they reflect the units that we have access to. I think as we see more waves of Primaris we'll start to see more character loadouts/customization options. It just won't be with the traditional weapons like lightning claws, it'll be whatever new stuff that they come up with. I'm pretty excited to see what they come up with next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I think Primaris are Marketing Marines more than anything else. Easier to copyright image because they all based on one model design, easier to produce two sets of identical sprues and justify all the same weapon load out because that is how it worked in the Heresy and easier to chuck in starter sets. The third party party fiasco is what has lead to this whole only what comes in the box nonsense and changing army names, that and I imagine GW see these as the starter army so having options most of us would just snip from other kits would be out of the question to avoid confusion for new players. I think the downfall of these designs is when it comes to characters. I'd rather have individual options than swap this load out for that load out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 One thing about Primaris being brand new is there is no index support like old Marines . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I'll say this for the kits, I'm putting my first Intercessors together at the moment and they're an absolute pleasure! They also have lots of compatibility with older parts, mixing in plenty of Grey Hunter gubbins on mine. It would have been very easy for GW to make the heads, shoulder pads etc incompatible so that's a nice touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 The problem is not now that primaris are just another option in a already big marines units choices The problem will be when GW will phase out old marines Then we will have a really limited army About the unit loadouts it's not a problem to me The only good primaris units are hellblasters and inceptors and they don't need options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknife Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 All i want would be a single capt model with customisation, the same for a lt and more option for the sgt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 The problem is not now that primaris are just another option in a already big marines units choices The problem will be when GW will phase out old marines Then we will have a really limited army About the unit loadouts it's not a problem to me The only good primaris units are hellblasters and inceptors and they don't need options It'll be quite awhile before they take the older marines off the shelves as long as they sell they'll make room for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 What I would really, really like is an option to have different flavours like an Inceptor Captain or Lieutenant or a Reiver one. Something that doesn't rely on regular marines to create a nice theme for your army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Yeah I think a reiver or inceptor character would make sense and be cool. I just think we're going to see some with other weapon options soon and those will be what the characters can take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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