b1soul Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Have you guys seen this bit of artwork? Does this accurately reflect the fluff? I always thought TW were the biggest of the three...ugly, hulking brutes. The height difference between Custodes and Astartes seems a bit too much, but I seem to recall that Custodes are around a head taller than Astartes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Which is which? Like is custodes the biggest? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 From left to right in the image... Custodes (blonde), Thunder Warrior (mohawk), Astartes (cornrows/nails) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Thanks, they both had eagles on them lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Thunder Warriors were always bigger than Astartes, but I've never read a size comparison between TW and Custodes. But it doesn't surprise me that Custodes are bigger. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 Someone correct me if I'm wrong... The eagle-head heraldry indicates participation in the Unification Wars. Only early Terran Astartes would have it (those who entered service during the late Unification Wars period). The World Eater doesn't. He's probably a a Great Crusade-era recruit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Someone correct me if I'm wrong... The eagle-head heraldry indicates participation in the Unification Wars. Only early Terran Astartes would have it (those who entered service during the late Unification Wars period). The World Eater doesn't. He's probably a a Great Crusade-era recruit. That is also my understanding :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Seen it and I wish the models would follow this scale better. Especially the difference between regular human and Astartes. Also makes the Primaris roughly TW size I guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 The TW actually looks like he might out-mass the Custodes The Astartes def looks shortest and lightest Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 The question that the image most bring to mind is "How tall is that human?". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 That's cool. I imagine that human is 6 foot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDeath Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 On the Astartes' sides, are these rips I see there under his arms? Astartes dont have rips, but a flat bone shell, havent they? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobWrath Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 On the Astartes' sides, are these rips I see there under his arms? Astartes dont have rips, but a flat bone shell, havent they? I think the lore says the ribs fuse together, so you might see the outline of the ribs but from outside the skin you wouldn't see that the gaps in between are also infilled in bone. Also, I'm not an expert on anatomy but you also have intercostal muscles around there which I believe go over the ribs, so that might be what you'd see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 While the custodes and astartes are representative samples of their type, I strongly suspect the thunder warriors were a lot less uniform in their appearance. Gigantism here, malformation there, everything you'd expect from a hastily-made, short-lived, non-mass-produced warrior caste which we know suffered from serious cellular degradation and bizarre cancers. For every thunder warrior that looked like that dude, you'd have another that might look closer to an unusually swole version of that mortal and another that might look closer to an ogryn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Is this official? If so, tres cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Typical. Only the glory-hounding supersoldiers are mentioned, but the extremly fit regular human, who actually had to work for all those muscles and didn't just get them from copious amounts of steroids, is ignored. The Guardsman's life truly is harsh and thankless. :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 shouldnt it be soldier of the Solar Army if you have pre-HH WEs and TWs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 The Thunder Warrior is the one on the far left. Custodes don't plug into their armor like Space Marines and Thunder Warriors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 If thats the case why is the one on the far left the one with the most well-wrought tattoos as well as a Red Sash; akin to the red cloth Custodians typically wear? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 This is the source: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/eEwlY It also includes a Primarch. Not sure why somebody removed the Primarch from the picture tho. The one on the left beside the Primarch indeed is the Custodes, not the one without the plugs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I can see custodes possibly not needing sockets for their armour but thunder armour was barely powered, it seems pretty plausible that some at least didn't need anything in the way of neural links and such. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Thunder Warriors were always bigger than Astartes, but I've never read a size comparison between TW and Custodes. But it doesn't surprise me that Custodes are bigger. Basically the only detail we've 'always' had about Thunder Warriors was that they wore MK1 armour. On the Astartes' sides, are these rips I see there under his arms? Astartes dont have rips, but a flat bone shell, havent they? Only very skinny people (like me) have visible ribs. Those are serratus anterior muscles. While the custodes and astartes are representative samples of their type, I strongly suspect the thunder warriors were a lot less uniform in their appearance. Gigantism here, malformation there, everything you'd expect from a hastily-made, short-lived, non-mass-produced warrior caste which we know suffered from serious cellular degradation and bizarre cancers. Hastily-made but non-mass produced? Um... I can see custodes possibly not needing sockets for their armour but thunder armour was barely powered, it seems pretty plausible that some at least didn't need anything in the way of neural links and such. Semi-agreed. Custodes probably have a black carapace but MK1 armour wouldn't need the same kind as latter marks. Magnus has a black carapace so the other primarchs probably do as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I've linked the source. It's obviously not official. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Hey guys remember the carapace is sub-dermal. "If thats the case why is the one on the far left the one with the most well-wrought tattoos as well as a Red Sash; akin to the red cloth Custodians typically wear?" Thunder Warriors were battle pimps . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 That is the weirdest police line up I have ever seen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351191-a-custodes-thunder-warrior-and-astartes-walk-into-a-bar/#findComment-5191792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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