Fire Golem Posted October 4, 2023 Author Share Posted October 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, System Sound said: Dark coil fans: We want a Fehervari Omnibus! Monkeys paw curls somewhere deep in Nottingham... Black Library: We heard you loud and clear! Here's a box set that's missing half the stories you love! On a serious note. A 1000 :cuss:ing copies!? Hahaha I just did this exact bit in the upcoming thread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-5992941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSpirea Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, System Sound said: Dark coil fans: We want a Fehervari Omnibus! Monkeys paw curls somewhere deep in Nottingham... Black Library: We heard you loud and clear! Here's a box set that's missing half the stories you love! On a serious note. A 1000 :cuss:ing copies!? Similar number to the previous box sets. Night Lords were 1000 as well I believe, Forges 1100. Some were I think 1200 or 1250. Warhammer Community articles had it wrong in some instances so wouldn't double-check there Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-5992950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagashsnee Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Dark coil collection with no Fire Caste? Why even bother if you are going to at least pretend to do your job properly? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-5992951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Odd not to have CotSD alongside RI but I for one would love to get my hands on this and break my “I will never buy a Ltd Edition ever” stance! System Sound 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-5993055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I have never put myself through the stress of the Limited Edition purchase window. But for this while my head says no my heart says definitely! How does it work? What time and where? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-5994011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sothalor Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, DukeLeto69 said: I have never put myself through the stress of the Limited Edition purchase window. But for this while my head says no my heart says definitely! How does it work? What time and where? So pre-orders go live on Saturday morning (on a regional basis). PHYSICAL COPIES OF ALL NEW RELEASE BLACK LIBRARY PRODUCTS ARE EXCLUSIVELY AVAILABLE THROUGH THE GAMES WORKSHOP ONLINE STORE. The Black Library site these days ONLY has digital releases. For me in the West Coast time region of the United States, for instance, that is officially 10 AM on Saturday morning. (Anybody with more specific time-frame experience, do please speak up.) My experience is that pre-orders tend to go live about 5-10 minutes before that official time (so for me, that means 9:50 - 9:55 AM). What this means is that practically: - You want to be online, already logged in to your GW webstore account prior to the pre-order start window. Have your payment information/method up-to-date and ready to go. - Using the webstore tabs and filters, navigate to the pre-order section for Black Library releases. Begin refreshing the site every few seconds about 10 minutes before the hour. - (Note, if they've implemented the webstore queue system for the weekend, you'll just have to sit in the queue. Do not refresh or navigate away if you already have a slot in the queue.) - When the store refresh shows up with the new pre-order items, get the stuff you want into your cart and complete the check-out process as fast as you can. Hope and pray that GW's online store infrastructure doesn't suffer a bout of explosive self-defecation. - If you get a confirmation email and number, congrats! You've have successfully placed your pre-order. - Now you get to wait and hope that your order doesn't get cancelled because it turns out they didn't actually have enough stock on-hand to meet all the orders. - Then you get to wait and hope that GW's psychotically malicious Abominable Intelligence of an order fulfillment system actually ships you the damned things you ordered. That about encompasses it in my experience. It sucks, but welcome to the hell that is the modern GW FOMO customer approach. System Sound, cheywood and DukeLeto69 1 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-5994027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
norDrow Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 10 hours ago, Sothalor said: - Using the webstore tabs and filters, navigate to the pre-order section for Black Library releases. Begin refreshing the site every few seconds about 10 minutes before the hour. Please note that last week's pre-orders never showed up in the pre-order section under Black Library (still can't find them anywhere under Black Library for that matter). They were listed under the New & Exclusive's pre-order section though. This may have been a one time glitch, but it's worth keeping in mind. Sothalor and System Sound 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-5994066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
System Sound Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1.Pre-orders always go live 09.55 for Europe. 2.If your payment method has an authenticato, like PayPal for example, have it ready on hand. 3.I'm 99% sure that there won't be a que system in place, since there wasn't one for space marine codex and stuff. Ubiquitous1984 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-5994084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSpirea Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 I know, Reddit.. but it's an interesting info. Hope GW won't screw up (as usual) with my pre-order System Sound and Ubiquitous1984 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-5995196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddm Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) Removed Edited November 3, 2023 by Jareddm Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-5995298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
System Sound Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 My Copy of the collection arived finally. Reading the foreword for the Anthology, figured maybe some of you would like to read it too. Spoiler FOREWORD OUT OF THE SHADOWS The Dark Coil. I can't recall how I found the name for this tangle of thorny tales, or when I first shared it, but it's been out in the wild for years now, haunting forums, reviews and the occasional article like a ghostly meme. It has rarely risen above a whisper or built momentum beyond a small yet passionate coterie of enthusiasts who've embraced its mysteries and riddles. Some of these fellow travellers have tried to spread the word fur- ther and louder, seeking to draw a wider audience into the Coil, but it's an elusive beast, spun from intuitions that shun the light. So it flows. The Coil was born in the shadows of the 40K mythos, where darker, stranger possibilities lurk. It takes form in broken souls seeking truth, redemption, hope, or simply a way out as they walk myriad paths into oblivion. It finds voice in obsession, ambition and regret, weaving tales that bleed, burn and twist in the telling and rarely end cleanly, let alone with glory. As the accursed tome at its heart cautions, there are no perfect answers to be found here and the truth is barbed. Such crooked paths are not for everyone. Thus, for the most part, stories have remained in the shadows. these So it goes Yet here we are, meeting in a place I never expected to reach, with these scattered stories compiled into a semblance of order. It can only be a sem- blance, for disorder is in their nature and I won't agitate them by presuming to offer anything definitive. Neither is this collection complete, for reality still governs these pages and there's only so far that dreams can stretch. Nevertheless, this is a dream fulfilled for me. As a lover of books, especially beautiful ones, it means the world to see my own stories graced with a limited edition. Though digital incarnations will almost certainly outlast their material kindred they will never capture the sorcery of paper and print - of an artefact you can hold, smell and revel in shelving neatly, or not, according to your own sense of logic or aesthetics. Make no mistake, the substance of a story lies in the words themselves, not their presentation, but a physical book adds weight to them. Gravi- tas. Perhaps that's only an illusion, but if it feels real then in an elusive yet undeniable sense it is. After all, that's one of the core principles of the Dark Coil. I'm grateful to the overlords of Black Library for supporting me on this journey and believing in these weird tales, even when I pushed against the boundaries of the traditional lore. In particular I'm indebted to Nick Kyme, who gave me a second shot when my first went wild, and to Lindsey Priestley, who humoured my madness long afterwards. But above all, I'm grateful to those who've walked into this labyrinth with me and stuck the course through the years, despite the challenges. That's you, my fellow trav- ellers. Without your faith and occasional fire this daemon would never have escaped into the materium, let alone possessed these pages. We rise on burning wings! A Torn Prophet London, September 2022 byrd9999, DarkChaplain, theSpirea and 2 others 1 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-5999240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 On 10/15/2023 at 6:56 PM, Jareddm said: Fascinating that Peter doesn't consider what's going on at Phaedra to be part of the broader Dark Coil concept. I don’t think this is correct. My understanding from having spoken to Peter in the past is that he very much considers Fire Caste to very much be part of the Dark Coil. However, as an earlier book (first novel) he was finding his way and discovering what the Dark Coil was/is. The set could only be so large and I would say that Requiem Infernal and The Reverie clearly fit together and some of the shorts tie more closely in there. I would also argue that as Peter grew in confidence, so his writing became more complex, more “metaphysical” if you will. Fire Caste is a different beast to the others, stylistically and thematically IMHO. Despite me not snagging a copy (the only time I have ever tried to get a Ltd Ed), this selling out will hopefully encourage BL to release a second Ltd Ed set that does include both Fire Caste and CotSD and remaining shorts. I also hope it shows there is demand for Dark Coil stories and we get more from Peter. Can only hope and wish for another novel! System Sound, theSpirea, byrd9999 and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-5999481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSpirea Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 When the box set was announced, I checked various forums and even opened Facebook to explore a few Black Library-related groups. It saddened me how many people had never heard of Fehervari. Mind you, these were individuals claiming to have been reading Black Library for decades. Unless it's one of the popular authors like Abnett or ADB, or the book is about their favorite plastic crack unit, they seem to have next to zero interest. I've always considered this one of the biggest problems with Black Library fiction. The fan base is incredibly small, and unfortunately, a significant portion of it ignores everything that's not related to their chosen army. Even reading Peter's introduction in the box set is a bit sad that while the books are loved and adored, it is only by a small, die-hard community. I do hope the box set will serve as an advertisement and will expose Peter's writing to more fans. He truly is a gem among BL authors and I would throw my paychecks at him if he ever decided to go for Kickstarter. DarkChaplain, System Sound, cheywood and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-5999492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
System Sound Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) As the age old saying goes, Space Marines and bolter porn sells. As for a second box set. I doubt we gonna see it any time soon. BL is probably gonna wait for more shorts to accumulate, to make a third book, or for Fehervari to writte another novel. Edited November 2, 2023 by System Sound Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-5999514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 55 minutes ago, System Sound said: As the age old saying goes, Space Marines and bolter porn sells. As for a second box set. I doubt we gonna see it any time soon. BL is probably gonna wait for more shorts to accumulate, to make a third book, or for Fehervari to writte another novel. BL need to commission another novel first! As for your first point...that is part of the “secret” of ADBs popularity. Apart from one novel (his first) he has exclusively focused on Space Marines. Now he clearly has the excellent writing chops to deserve his popularity, but it is also because...Space Marines, especially Chaos Marines! System Sound 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-5999538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubiquitous1984 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 There is a very interesting post on the BL Nutters fb group that showcases the unique quotes that the author has included in many of the LE's (not mine though, sadly!) around 20 people have shared their signature pages with loads of unique quotes ... is a message being made to fans with the various quotes? There has been an immense amount of effort put into these by the author. The quality of calligraphy is mind-blowing considering he did 1000 of these. Any fan of his really should check the post out, it's so unique what PF has done and very much appreciated as an added bonus for fans after forking out for the LE! RikuEru, DukeLeto69 and System Sound 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-6001016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
System Sound Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Ubiquitous1984 said: There is a very interesting post on the BL Nutters fb group that showcases the unique quotes that the author has included in many of the LE's (not mine though, sadly!) around 20 people have shared their signature pages with loads of unique quotes ... is a message being made to fans with the various quotes? There has been an immense amount of effort put into these by the author. The quality of calligraphy is mind-blowing considering he did 1000 of these. Any fan of his really should check the post out, it's so unique what PF has done and very much appreciated as an added bonus for fans after forking out for the LE! I heard some rumblings on Twitter that each copy (Yes the 1k) has a unique quote. How true that I cannot say. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-6001043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 That sounds very much like something Peter would do and enjoy greatly. He once sent me some bookplates by mail, with eldritch drawings and such. I've kept them safe on the shelf ever since. Any of those photos floating around outside of Facebook, btw? DukeLeto69 and System Sound 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-6001059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 11/2/2023 at 2:39 AM, theSpirea said: I've always considered this one of the biggest problems with Black Library fiction. The fan base is incredibly small, and unfortunately, a significant portion of it ignores everything that's not related to their chosen army. If BL made it easier to actually get the books, this could change over time. They actively work to discourage this however, its bizarre. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-6001064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
System Sound Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, DarkChaplain said: That sounds very much like something Peter would do and enjoy greatly. He once sent me some bookplates by mail, with eldritch drawings and such. I've kept them safe on the shelf ever since. Any of those photos floating around outside of Facebook, btw? I would very much love to see those plates, if possible. As for quote, I can share mine. Spoiler Edited November 8, 2023 by System Sound RikuEru, Fire Golem, DukeLeto69 and 3 others 2 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-6001066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 hour ago, DarkChaplain said: That sounds very much like something Peter would do and enjoy greatly. He once sent me some bookplates by mail, with eldritch drawings and such. I've kept them safe on the shelf ever since. Any of those photos floating around outside of Facebook, btw? Not just a fantastic author but a thoroughly nice man as well! DarkChaplain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-6001080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedor Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 11/2/2023 at 12:03 PM, DukeLeto69 said: BL need to commission another novel first! As for your first point...that is part of the “secret” of ADBs popularity. Apart from one novel (his first) he has exclusively focused on Space Marines. Now he clearly has the excellent writing chops to deserve his popularity, but it is also because...Space Marines, especially Chaos Marines! ADB was also the only writer to be heavily active on a wide number of community forums. He built up a "one of us" vibe right from Cadian Blood, which included putting down some of the less popular authors like Counter, who at that point was an easy whipping boy for cool cred. Of course that wouldn't have mattered had his books been poor, but it definitely played a part in getting the good online word of mouth momentum rolling very fast compared to more remote authors - and 3-4 years later brought about the predictable backlash wave originating from the edgier contrarian parts of the fanbase on 4chan, but by then he was a safe "good reputation" go to author for newer fans wanting marine stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-6001101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 11 hours ago, Fedor said: ADB was also the only writer to be heavily active on a wide number of community forums. He built up a "one of us" vibe right from Cadian Blood, which included putting down some of the less popular authors like Counter, who at that point was an easy whipping boy for cool cred. Of course that wouldn't have mattered had his books been poor, but it definitely played a part in getting the good online word of mouth momentum rolling very fast compared to more remote authors - and 3-4 years later brought about the predictable backlash wave originating from the edgier contrarian parts of the fanbase on 4chan, but by then he was a safe "good reputation" go to author for newer fans wanting marine stuff. I miss the days when folks like ADB and Laurie Goulding and Peter Fehervari were active on BL related forums. It was cool to interact with authors, though sometimes the “fans” could be toxic. That combined with GW/BL being so locked down on what can be discussed saw that drift away. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-6001180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSpirea Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, DukeLeto69 said: I miss the days when folks like ADB and Laurie Goulding and Peter Fehervari were active on BL related forums. It was cool to interact with authors, though sometimes the “fans” could be toxic. That combined with GW/BL being so locked down on what can be discussed saw that drift away. Here's an active thread with JC Stearns contributing there: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-6001181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubiquitous1984 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 15 hours ago, DarkChaplain said: Any of those photos floating around outside of Facebook, btw? Not that I’m aware, it’s not a public FB group you have to join it to view the photos. Let me see if I can figure out a way to take some photos and share them here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353049-peter-fehervari%E2%80%99s-dark-coil/page/11/#findComment-6001183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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