RipOffProductions Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I hope that the Dominus Battleforce Maniple is included in the Doom Of Molech book, sense its theme fits with the Knight specific focus of the book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5249411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I'm not a fan of the Dominus maniple. It encourages people to fire volcano cannons at knights, which they already want to do. And it keeps the knights where they don't want to be - far from the enemy and dead. A better way to protect your titans is to have more of them and shoot the enemy titans dead. The knights won't be doing anything useful while guarding your titans, so it's removing a threat from your own army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5249632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Could it be useful as a screen for a Reaver who wants to get in close? Operation: Get Behind the Knights Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5249638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I guess. It's just that advancing with knights tends to rely on cover. The maniple prevents them from benefiting from cover. I don't think it's credible to expect them to walk through all the plasma blastguns, meltas and volcano cannons if they can't hide. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5249693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 purple and gold devine would go nicely with my Mortis, they weren't green in the novel tho? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5249779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
orz Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Can anyone who has Vengeful Spirit tell me if they describe Legio Interfector's color scheme? Sources around the web say dark red w/ bronze trim, but I'm not sure where that came from. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5249846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Can anyone who has Vengeful Spirit tell me if they describe Legio Interfector's color scheme? Sources around the web say dark red w/ bronze trim, but I'm not sure where that came from. Think I have that at home I'll dig it out :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5249889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Can anyone who has Vengeful Spirit tell me if they describe Legio Interfector's color scheme? Sources around the web say dark red w/ bronze trim, but I'm not sure where that came from. I ran a few searches through my ebook copy but didn't come up with anything. The red and bronze scheme info comes from FW's display Chaos Reaver, though. It was in a WD article or something and had caption that named it as part of Legio Interfector. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5250111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 In the 6th edition hardcover Warhammer 40k rulebook, there's a bit of lore for an example campaign (featuring Duncan Rhodes' Word Bearers). There are some Traitor Titans displayed there, in red black and gold (one of them is just the red and bronze FW reaver but if my memory serves there were some other titans likely painted by somebody else), of the Legio Interfector. That's the only time Interfector has appeared in an official source other than Vengeful Spirit to the best of my knowledge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5250145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
orz Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Thanks guys! I guess I'll go ahead with red/bronze/black and hope they don't change it in the new book... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5250180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFurioso Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/18/forge-world-preview-doom-of-molech/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5278859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Prideful hunter seems to be the best trait Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5278947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 It looks like those are House Devine traits. I'm guessing each House will have different traits. I'm curious to see how they support this supplement, but I'm also a bit wary since nothing has been shown or even hinted at model-wise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5278976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrypie Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 I'm personally okay even with just a rules supplement, but I'd say it is reasonable to expect some models too given the article implies Knight spesific Battlefield Assets, which require miniatures to function... Drop forts, arming stations, Evangelion-style underground deployment bastions? Wouldn't consider it too outlandish to have Acastus variants too, if we're lucky. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5279015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I'm personally okay even with just a rules supplement, but I'd say it is reasonable to expect some models too given the article implies Knight spesific Battlefield Assets, which require miniatures to function... Drop forts, arming stations, Evangelion-style underground deployment bastions? Wouldn't consider it too outlandish to have Acastus variants too, if we're lucky. I never knew I wanted these at AT scale until you mentioned them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5279314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I understand being unsure about all Knight armies, but I think it'll be good for all knight on all knight games, being a little quicker. You could probably knock out a game in an hour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5279409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I understand being unsure about all Knight armies, but I think it'll be good for all knight on all knight games, being a little quicker. You could probably knock out a game in an hour. It would be nice if we can get outflanking Knights... Or hilariously broken if Cerastus suddenly appear and sprint into a charge. Any excuse for me to say "and the winged Hussars arrived!" I need to get some red and blue Cerastus on payday :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5279525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendi Warrior Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Dedicated Twitch stream on Thursday at 5pm UK time https://www.twitch.tv/warhammer Curious to see what is in the pipeline Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5279690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I'm quite surprised to be hearing about this already. I assumed we wouldn't be given any previews or info about Molech until late summer / early fall. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5279711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 anyone knows when its due? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5279795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 It was within the 3-month preview window they're enforcing and shown at the Weekender, so within 3 months of whatever date the Weekender was. Some time in the next month and a half, roughly? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5279825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendi Warrior Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Just watched the Twitch stream (no sound for the first 7 minutes due to a small computer glitch). My key takeaways are that release of the book is "imminent", likely accompanied with the Civitas Imperialis Spires, but no mention of new models, neither knights nor titans. Resin stuff likely coming soon, quick mention, no details. Format similar to the previous books, 4 Legios covered (Crucius, Fortidus, Vulcanum, Interfectors), several knight households (incl. Devine, Tazkhar, ...). Interfectors, the Murder Lords, roll on an insanity table New maniples: Fortis = 1 Warlord + 2 Reavers + optional 1 Warlord + 1 Reaver Ferox Light = 1 Reaver + 2 Warhounds + optional 1 Reaver + 1 Warhound Focus on knights in "The Household Marches": rules to field entire knights armies: banners, lances (several banners together), seneschal, knightly qualities, new stratagems incl. household specific ones (more to come), new stratagems are in the book as well as on the cards (so cards pack coming as well). Narrative battles, incl. hunting beasties Appendices: Battlefields of Molech (e.g. flooded cities, ruined cities, ...) and New Stratagems Transfers for knight households combined with Titan Legio transfers, maybe a big household specific sheet some day. Mortis and Gryphonicus coming back (no timetable), for the others, they advise to buy as soon as possible if you really want them (better safe than sorry mode) Foreseeable future: focus on Horus Heresy setting, so, again, no Xenos yet (maybe one day … don't hold your breath) Industrial buildings maybe some day, AH seemed to love the idea That is it as far as I understand things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5281456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrypie Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Watched the stream too.Book releases next month. Most importantly, some corrections on how knights and Orders interact will be in the book, Andy talked about Charge order forcing the knights to move in a straight line and giving less dice (probably meaning they clarify it only ever applied on a per unit basis). Four Legio rules, Interfector will have a table for different insanities. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5281458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Damn I wanted to do a campaign with volcanic terrain but they are releasing campaign books non-stop Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5281530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I really hope they're holding off new Knights until the release date to surprise us. Questoris and Cerastus do not an army make, especially since only the Lancer is really effective against Titans (and even that's situational). Did they give any information on the Knight Households? Which ones are getting rules, etc.? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353596-doom-of-molech-supplement-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5281575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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