Guest Metaliptica Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Hi All !I've recently acquired Lion Knight from kabuki studio and want to play him as the primarch of the 1st while waiting for the official sculpt and rules. I came up with what seems (to me) like a solid representation of the primarch but all feedback is very welcome. Long story short, I took inspiration from Horus and Russ rulewise (made sence lorewise since both Horus and the Lion were racing to be warmaster, and that Russ and the Lion seems to be equals when it comes to HtH combat) Thanks by advance for your time to read and here it is : Lion El Jonson 470 points The Knight Lord of Caliban, The First, Supreme Grand Master of the Order, Primarch of the Dark Angels.Often referred to as the Lion, Lion El Jonson was renowned for his tactical acumen, as much as his prowess with a blade. During the Great Crusade, it was said that the race for the position of warmaster has always been a two-horse race between the Lion and Horus. It is during the infamous Thramas crusade that the Lion’s skills were truly put to the test. A test that would change him for the rest of the Heresy. WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv Lion El Jonson 9 5 6 6 6 7 5 10 2+ Unit Composition 1 (Unique)Unit Type Infantry (Character)WargearSquire The Lion sword Frag grenades Aegis Special RulesPrimarch (Independent Character, Eternal Warrior, Fear, Adamantium Will, Fleet, Fearless, It Will Not Die, Master of the Legion, Precision Shots, Precision Strikes) Sire of the Dark Angels Preternatural Tactitian Grandmaster of the Order The Tuchulcha Engine. Bulky Option Lion El Jonson may exchange his Lion Sword with Wolf Blade at no additionnal cost. Lion El Jonson may be chosen as a Lord of War choice for Legion Astartes (Dark Angels) army list The Tuchulcha Engine Lion El Jonson and his command squad if he chose to have one (may it be power armored or terminators) are allowed to Deep strike, and do not scatter while doing so. Grand Master of the Order While fighting in a challenge, Lion El Jonson gains the preferred enemy special rule.Veterans and terminators squads may also be taken as troop choices If Lion El’ Jonson is present in your Army. Preternatural TacticianHe may redeploy 1d3 units after infiltrators have been set upHe may choose his warlord trait from the Strategic Traits of the Age of Darkness rulebook. Lion El Jonson allows units with the legion astartes (dark angel) special rule to deep strike when equipped with any kind of terminator armor. Sire of the Dark Angels Lion El Jonson has the Blade Master and Monster Hunter special rules.When leading a Dark angels army, all units with the Legion Astartes (dark angels) rules gain the rending special rule when using a sword type weapon and automatically pass Fear Tests. Blade Master: While in close combat, The Lion will always hit his opponent on a 3+, regardless of any modifiers or his opponent’s WS. The Squire Weapon Range Str AP Type Squire 18" 5 3 Assault 2, Rending The Lion Sword Weapon Range Str AP Type The Lion Sword Melee 8 2 Melee, Two Handed, Deflagrates, Slayer Slayer: Wounds caused by this weapon cannot be saved or regenerated by the Feel no Pain or It Will not Die special rules. Wolf BladeWeapon Range Str AP Type Wolf Blade Melee +2 2 Mele, Two Handed, Instant Death, Shred Aegis: Confers Lion El Jonson a 2+ armor save, a 4+ invulnerable save, as well as providing immunity to both rending and shred special rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354183-homemade-lion-el-jonson-rules-30k/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtariOnzo Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Rules look solid, might have to nick them myself for my own Lion (slightly modified version of the same one you got) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354183-homemade-lion-el-jonson-rules-30k/#findComment-5270481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Metaliptica Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Thanks man. I've playtested them a bit and the interception rule was too powerfull against my opponents (I'm facing Horus, and Russ mainly). I've changed the profile and some rules accordingly. Feel free to comment if you got idea or feel like it's too powerfull. Lion El Jonson 470 points WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv Lion El Jonson 9 5 6 6 6 7 5 10 2+ Unit Composition 1 (Unique)Unit Type Infantry (Character)WargearSquire The Lion sword Frag grenades Aegis Special RulesPrimarch (Independent Character, Eternal Warrior, Fear, Adamantium Will, Fleet, Fearless, It Will Not Die, Master of the Legion, Precision Shots, Precision Strikes) Sire of the Dark Angels Preternatural Tactitian Grandmaster of the Order Bulky Option Lion El Jonson may exchange his Lion Sword with Wolf Blade at no additionnal cost. Lion El Jonson may be chosen as a Lord of War choice for Legion Astartes (Dark Angels) army list Grand Master of the Order While fighting in a challenge, Lion El Jonson gains the preferred enemy special rule.Veterans and terminators squads may also be taken as troop choices If Lion El’ Jonson is present in your Army. Preternatural TacticianHe may redeploy 1d3 units after infiltrators have been set upHe may choose his warlord trait from the Strategic Traits of the Age of Darkness rulebook. Lion El Jonson allows units with the legion astartes (dark angel) special rule to deep strike when equipped with any kind of terminator armor. Sire of the Dark Angels Lion El Jonson has the Blade Master and Monster Hunter special rules.When leading a Dark angels army, all units with the Legion Astartes (dark angels) rules gain the rending special rule when using a sword type weapon and automatically pass Fear Tests. Blade Master: While in close combat, The Lion will always hit his opponent on a 3+, regardless of any modifiers or his opponent’s WS. The Squire Weapon Range Str AP Type Squire 18" 5 3 Assault 2, Rending The Lion Sword Weapon Range Str AP Type The Lion Sword Melee 8 2 Melee, Two Handed, Deflagrates, Slayer Slayer: Wounds caused by this weapon cannot be saved or regenerated by the Feel no Pain or It Will not Die special rules. Wolf BladeWeapon Range Str AP Type Wolf Blade Melee +2 2 Mele, Two Handed, Instant Death, Shred Aegis: Confers Lion El Jonson a 2+ armor save, a 4+ invulnerable save, as well as providing immunity to both rending and shred special rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354183-homemade-lion-el-jonson-rules-30k/#findComment-5271255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtariOnzo Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I think the deep strike rule should only count for Terminator units, or at most Terminator and Veterans units, similar to Perty, and apply to any rather than one. Though, I suppose I can see the appeal of having free deep strike to any infantry/dread unit with the catch being only the one.Otherwise I think you've done well costing him and balancing out the duelist and the strategist aspects of the lion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354183-homemade-lion-el-jonson-rules-30k/#findComment-5271327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherEndcat Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I'm with Utari on maybe giving the deep strike perhaps to only Termis and Veterans. Otherwise though mate this is spectacularly well balanced, I'm going to give these rules a shot in my next heresy game :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354183-homemade-lion-el-jonson-rules-30k/#findComment-5276835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Metaliptica Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Thanks for the feedback. After some playtesting, turns out that beeing abble to deep strike a dread and the Lion is too much indeed (in my defense, I forgot that dread also had the legion astartes rule ...)Therefore, I removed the abilitie to DS the lion and one unit and replaced it with the abilitie to DS units equiped with Terminator armor. As a compensation, I also raised his WS to 9 after some talk with my opponents.I quite like where he's at right now but feel free to give me feedback. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354183-homemade-lion-el-jonson-rules-30k/#findComment-5277427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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