Eberious Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Lol, indeed. Chainsword goes.... Brrrrr. @Ranulf, So tonight when I get home will be the 5th night of trying to come up with a personal heraldry for Helbrecht, other than a extra parchment/ribbon I'm working on he's pretty much finished. Hopefully I'll get it done tonight so I can post him up and move on his squire. Problem I'm facing is the shield I'm painting this on is on his back over the gold of his back pack and the black of his cloak is a large part of the view from behind. The designs I've liked end up clashing with the main colours, getting to cluttered with detail or gets lost/blends in with the gold/black. One would think it shouldn't really be that hard. Latest thoughts were a quartered theme of dirty Averland sunset yellow and black, with a white cross in the middle. Both of which get lost a little on the gold/black back ground. Trying to stay away from red and whites, which would make it pop and get the job done. As wanting it to be personal to him, rather than related to the BT Crusade/s. So,,, gah! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5588228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Lol, indeed. Chainsword goes.... Brrrrr. @Ranulf, So tonight when I get home will be the 5th night of trying to come up with a personal heraldry for Helbrecht, other than a extra parchment/ribbon I'm working on he's pretty much finished. Hopefully I'll get it done tonight so I can post him up and move on his squire. Problem I'm facing is the shield I'm painting this on is on his back over the gold of his back pack and the black of his cloak is a large part of the view from behind. The designs I've liked end up clashing with the main colours, getting to cluttered with detail or gets lost/blends in with the gold/black. One would think it shouldn't really be that hard. Latest thoughts were a quartered theme of dirty Averland sunset yellow and black, with a white cross in the middle. Both of which get lost a little on the gold/black back ground. Trying to stay away from red and whites, which would make it pop and get the job done. As wanting it to be personal to him, rather than related to the BT Crusade/s. So,,, gah! Isn't the heraldic emblem of each High Marshal a sword? (Example: see Armageddon,Vinculus, and Jerulas Crusade banners that each describe the heraldic sword of their respective High Marshal as part of the banner) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5588238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eberious Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 I recall the sword acts like a badge of office that he carries in the lore and a reminder of Dorn's failure to protect the Emperor. His personal banner depicts this sword emblem and stands in for a chapter banner, as other banners do for different crusades. But my aim was to give him some personal heraldry that in non-lore, from a hobby point of view is all. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5588240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Apologies. I wasn't referring to the Sword of the High Marshals itself. Apologies for the size, but this should illustrate what I meant. From what I can tell, the Jerulas, Vinculus, and Armageddon Crusades all mention their respective high marshal and describes a stylized sword as the heraldic emblem or seal of the High Marshal. In each of the three banners, the sword looks vastly different from the other is so my guess is that each High Marshal has their own unique sword sigil. Seems pretty cool, though undoubtedly something of a bitch to paint. I'm not saying you have to use the sword or anything, it was just a thought that might help you out with some ideas. I imagine that Helbrecht's name comes from the German town of Helmbrecht, perhaps. Helmbrect has its own Heraldry. Maybe you could use that as something of an idea for him with some little historical ties? :) Maybe use like a cream or the Averland yellow colors and replace the red eagle with some small approximation to the Helbrecht's sword. Hope that gives an idea or two for you, man. Seriously looking forward to seeing Helbrecht finished. Bjorn Firewalker, Dosjetka, Llagos_Tyrant and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5588248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eberious Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Ah very nice, was trying to find a Germanic theme to start with but was unable to find one I liked. What you have provided there is really cool. I certainly like the idea and it has some sort of connection to the real world that I was looking for. I'm sure there's a knight titan house that will have a transfer for it, at least for the animal part. Thank you for that, as it's been doing my head right in. I accept this challenge ! To the brushes!... at least when I get home from work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5588257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eberious Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 Chuffed that I actually finished, helps that it's just one model. I'm not the at best on skin, even more so eyes. But I've improved a fair bit since last I tried. May I present Helbrecht in all his Golden goodness. Squire next. apologist, ranulf the revenant, HvitrValdyr and 18 others 21 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5589018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Excellent work on the High Marshal. Eberious 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5589227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagentus Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Real nice job on Helbrecht! really liking the free hand on the cloak Eberious 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5589360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majkhel Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Bravo! Eberious 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5589371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eberious Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 (edited) Thank you, @Sagentus, after a few practise attempts this came out really good. I don't normally do free hand that much but after realising that I could paint this style of chain it was on!. As I always attempt to try and make it look real with shading and highlights, always ends up looking rubbish. But with the simple design it was an actual pleasure to paint it and came out really well. So I expect I'll be doing more of it in the future. The large white cross on the back I cheated on. Searched my hobby supplies high and low to find an old tank transfer sheet. Stuck it on, and painted over the top of it, dirtying it up and stuff. The little half crosses on the inside of the cloak, on the red side, are free hand though. Edited August 21, 2020 by Eberious Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5589376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Love the cloak especially. Eberious 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5589408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 An absolutely fantastic Helbrecht conversion! Excellent work! Eberious 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5590265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eberious Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 Thank you both. I am very happy with the cloak, have to say I'm also very happy with army painter's detail and insane detail brushes. Have the get a magnifying glass next. Me ol'eyes having trouble focusing on the tiny details. Helbrecht's Squire. Dosjetka, ranulf the revenant, Doghouse and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5591404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Mollusc Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 I love how expressive the squire's face is, and his pose for that matter. He looks like he's prepared and anxious to do his job well, and a little awed and intimidated by his master at the same time. And the eyes look great! Well done, frater; a worthy squire for your new Helbrecht. Eberious 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5591414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosef Hausakluif Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) This is truly shaping up to be a monumental project; your attention to familiar details from the 1st born range, coupled with accurate paint schemes that we all know and are instantly readable/recognizable is really awesome. If GW ever comes out with a ‘cross the primaris rubicon’ Templar’s characters for either Grimaldus or Helbrecht; they are going to have a lot to live up to!! Edited August 24, 2020 by Yosef Hausakluif Eberious 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5591423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrypie Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 This thread is pretty full of win, bravo. Great take on the templar theme, going overboard but with taste :D Eberious 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5591505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eberious Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 Thanks all. @Chaplain Mollusc, he does, doesn't he. The more I look at it the more I imagine he's thinking ' oh heck, what was that! ' to himself. @Yosef Hausakluif, your comment honours me. I do try and carry forwards the small touches where possible, so thanks for picking up on that. And yes, GW should take note :) @Sherrypie, thank you. what's overboard? lol. You should see my older stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5591741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrypie Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 It's easy to slap on too much honour scrolls, grimoires, ossuaries and other bits until the whole thing gets silly, but your forces push the envelope of having quite a lot of gothic bling on them while still looking the part of zealous warriors. Job well done. Eberious 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5591811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eberious Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) Got distracted from painting a little bit. Made a banner for my Chaplain Dreadnought. Tester for sizing. had greenstuffed a load of drips and blobs but it looked awful. Glad I decided to remove it and give the candle plinth a rim and create there drips from plasticard/rod. Also added a few extra bits to the overall model and a greenstuff parchment wrapped around the hammer to join up where the current purity seal is. Edited September 30, 2020 by Eberious Dr_Ruminahui, ranulf the revenant, Chaplain Mollusc and 9 others 12 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5609188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naryn Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 WOW! Every time you post something from that Dread it just gets more impressive. Love the candles around the base of that banner, the attention to detail is awe-inspiring. Eberious 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5609230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llagos_Tyrant Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Incredible work. These are some gorgeous conversions. I felt my eyes actually pop when I saw that dreadnought, and I love how you've converted a squire for Helbrecht. It feels right, and the model is great. Wonderful job! Whoever you play on the tabletop is going to remember facing your Templars for a long time. Eberious 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5609319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shovellovin Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Amazing work on both Helbrecht and the dreadnought. You have created a very imaginative group of Black Templars. Eberious 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5609357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 you have my attention. more pics of the dread Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5609363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eberious Posted October 3, 2020 Author Share Posted October 3, 2020 Thank you all very much for the kind comments. :) @Llagos_Tyrant , sadly, I don't really game. Mostly out of little free time and ever changing shifts at work. Didn't actually play 40k at all last edition, in fact didn't play any game during that time. :( other then uno and that type of stuff with the kids. @Triszin, will have more soon as the banner is fitted in place, But leaving it unglued at this point so I can paint it. Plan to do some fancy donkey(if you get my meaning) free hand on it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5610761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Yep, I love this. Your attention to detail on that dreadnought is fantastic. Question: what did you make that banner out of? Is that plasticard? If so, that's a unique I've not seen before. Did you apply heat to make it bendable? Eberious 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354691-the-ouroboros-crusade-old-to-new-the-crusade-continues/page/8/#findComment-5610807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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