Lemondish Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Word on the street is that the Astartes book will be released in the second part of September. If that's the case it means we still have some time to wait, but also that we might be seeing some more significant changes. I think thats too late, I could see end of July/first weeks of august. I think we are in a weird period with marines where we are slowly transitioning into a "elite" medium model count. so what do we have so far for Marine 2.0 codex? - infiltrators - suppressors - eliminators - repulsor executioenr - another marine vehicle (rumored engine pics of an updated interior rhino computer) - primaris techmarine am I missing anything? All told, the following data sheets... Captain in Phobos Lieutenant in Phobos Vanguard Librarian in Phobos Infiltrator Suppressor Eliminator Repulsor Executioner New Iron Hands character and potential techmarine Bookkeeping: updates to Intercessors, Reivers, Primaris Captain options, etc. And the following rules... Poor Chaos missed the boat, but we'll have Bolter Discipline in the book Crimson Fists and Blood Ravens Chapter Tactics, Relics, Stratagems, and Warlord Traits Obscuration Discipline And this is all before any other new units or the long rumoured Chapter Tactics for vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5339784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Stormcast didn’t get a new Codex until the new edition, so I can’t see Marines getting a new Codex until 9th next year. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5339804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Of War Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Stormcast didn’t get a new Codex until the new edition, so I can’t see Marines getting a new Codex until 9th next year. Actually they did. There was the original Stormcast armybook, then a second that included the units previously released in their own Extremis Chamber book, and now with the 2nd edition of AoS, a third armybook. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5339816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 I doubt we will see a new codex prior to Chaos Knights or Sisters of Battle . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5339825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 I doubt we will see a new codex prior to Chaos Knights or Sisters of Battle . Chaos Knights is going on preorder next week, so I can't argue with that ;) I don't think it's a lock that the new Codex would need to wait until after Sisters since we still have no clue what the timing of that release will look like. At this point Infiltrators, Suppressors, Eliminators, and the Phobos HQ units can only be acquired from Shadowspear, which has slowly become more difficult to acquire as time goes on. I feel like it has been out of stock on the webstore for ages, and while it's anecdotal, my local stores have been bone dry since release. With the Apoc sheets showing a new Eliminator weapon I imagine it won't be too long until we learn more about the multi-part kits. I expect they'll arrive in a wave that culminates with a new codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5339830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Stormcast didn’t get a new Codex until the new edition, so I can’t see Marines getting a new Codex until 9th next year. Actually they did. There was the original Stormcast armybook, then a second that included the units previously released in their own Extremis Chamber book, and now with the 2nd edition of AoS, a third armybook. Ah so this will be a consolidation Codex and the real new units come with 9th. That makes sense. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5339839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 We don't know of that's the case or not. Chaos got a V2 update, but that was mostly a unit consolidation. Primaris are getting multiple substantial releases and a greater number of new units in every category of the force org. I wouldn't assume anything, and I certainly wouldn't try looking for precedence when GW is doing things without any notable patterns. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5339852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 I'd be really surprised if 9th is this soon. I expect "9th" at the soonest by 2020 summer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5339856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 I mean, I know they said they weren't going to do a 9th, that this would be a living edition... but they also said you wouldn't have to carry around a ton of books and magazines to play your army and we see how that turned out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5339863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 I'd be really surprised if 9th is this soon. I expect "9th" at the soonest by 2020 summer That’s the most likely course of action following the very obvious and demonstrable pattern between the two systems releases. We’ve got the Vanguard and ‘big monster’ kit in the executioner so they’ll consolidate the releases in a big Codex and then when we get around to the 40k Soul Wars next year we might see the Primaris equivalent of Sequitors and Ballista. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5339988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 It would be great if we actually had any rumours. After this week release we should be seeing the IH dude releasing. Will he be a solo release? Will he have some buddies? Who knows? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5339989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 It would be great if we actually had any rumours. Agreed. Real rumors from the rumormongers would be nice. I’m waiting to pull the trigger on a Redemptor Talon until I know if there might be an opportunity to get better looking new patterns of dreads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5339991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 I mean, I know they said they weren't going to do a 9th, that this would be a living edition... but they also said you wouldn't have to carry around a ton of books and magazines to play your army and we see how that turned out. I think next summer would be the earliest time frame for an edition update as well. I also don't think it will be much of one I think it will update the rulebook with faqs and maybe tweak cp. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5339994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 I hear ya Marshall. Im just waiting for a proper HQ either for WS or BT. The vanilla ones are quite boring looking, with awfull swords. Seriously dislike the power sword style. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5340054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 It would be great if we actually had any rumours. After this week release we should be seeing the IH dude releasing. Will he be a solo release? Will he have some buddies? Who knows? That's a very good point. I totally forgot about him and he doesn't fit into the recent Vanguard Primaris. (Not to be confused with Vanguard Veteran Space Marines or Vanguard Skitari!) When Chaos Marines 8.5 was released, it got the following new models that WEREN'T part of the Vanguard boxed set: Lord Discordant So it's possible that the Primaris Iron Hand is in fact a token model that'll be added alone or part of a new boxed set release. GW does enjoy their boxed sets so the latter is feasible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5340059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxichobbit Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 There's also a potential terrain piece that may come with the Codex. Most Codices since Harlequins have had one. Harlequins: Webway Gate. Imperial Knights: Sacristan Forgeshrine. Space Wolves: nothing. Orks: Mek Workshop. Genestealer Cult: Tectonic Fragdrill. Chaos v2: Noctilith Crown. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5340067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 There's also a potential terrain piece that may come with the Codex. Most Codices since Harlequins have had one. Harlequins: Webway Gate. Imperial Knights: Sacristan Forgeshrine. Space Wolves: nothing. Orks: Mek Workshop. Genestealer Cult: Tectonic Fragdrill. Chaos v2: Noctilith Crown. There's also the Khorne Skull Altar the Daemons got inbetween (not the Slaanesh terrain though for whatever reason). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5340079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Marine terrain is already available. It’s called a Drop Pod ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5340108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 So it's possible that the Primaris Iron Hand is in fact a token model that'll be added alone or part of a new boxed set release. GW does enjoy their boxed sets so the latter is feasible. They enjoy their boxed sets, but they also don't tend to put named characters in them (probably cuts down on multiple sets bought as even a fanatic collector of a faction doesn't need more than one of the same named character). I could see an Iron Hands vs. somebody boxed set released concurrently but it would be more likely to follow the Tooth and Claw model and feature an Iron Hands Primaris lieutenant and an upgrade sprue rather than the named Iron Father character. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5340116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuEru Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Marine terrain is already available. It’s called a Drop Pod ;)Honestly... I could see GW going that route.They'll just give it a 4" or so Aura as Deployment Zone. Tadaa! Think about all the production costs and shelf space they would not need for this! EDIT: This is NOT meant serious. Atleast not fully. Only slightly. Mostly sarcasm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5340130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Marine terrain is already available. It’s called a Drop Pod ;)Honestly... I could see GW going that route.They'll just give it a 4" or so Aura as Deployment Zone. Tadaa! Think about all the production costs and shelf space they would not need for this! EDIT: This is NOT meant serious. Atleast not fully. Only slightly. Mostly sarcasm. It's an interesting idea however Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5340158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 It definitely is interesting, yeah. We'd still have the problem of most Marine units not needing it, but it would be at least worlds better than arriving turn 2. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5340160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxichobbit Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 How about a building that improves Drop Pods? Some kind of fortified landing beacon or zone. Maybe something like the Dawn of War (video game, not the deployment type) building that has a small landing pad for Drop Pods. I have no idea how this would work or how useful it would be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5340167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 I've been itching for a new building for Marines. The other races are getting them now and it'll be exciting to see what we get. It has to be usable by Primaris AND Classic Marines though, or GW might just find their headaches got worse lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5340284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 How about a building that improves Drop Pods? Some kind of fortified landing beacon or zone. Maybe something like the Dawn of War (video game, not the deployment type) building that has a small landing pad for Drop Pods. I have no idea how this would work or how useful it would be. That would have to be some pretty accurate drop pod dropping! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356777-hints-at-additional-primaris-releases-and-future-changes/page/4/#findComment-5340325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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