The Bringers of Judgment - Dr. Ruminahui's knights

[Dr_Ruminahui]

I just pledged a knight as part of my ETL vow on the daemons outpost, but since this is the forum where all things chaosy and knighty meet, I thought I should start a knight thread.  After the ETL, as I acquire more chaos knights, they will appear here.

 

So here it is, which about 1/2 hour's painting on it - just blocking in some of the main colours.

 

[Tallarn Commander]

Looking good!

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Thanks!

 

Well, one weekend in (Monday was a holiday - happy 152nd birthday, Canada) to my second ETL vow and I thought I would share my progress.

 

Here is my knight so far - the colours on the shields are placeholders, and I'm not sure about the pink (when done, it will all be the colour on the arrmour on the meltagun under its left (our right) shoulder). 

 

 

What I am really happy with are his guns, which are almost done - together, they are almost the cost of my entire first vow.

 

 

That's probably more edge highlighting than I've done before in my life, but I love the effect.

 

 

So, question time - any opinions on how I should paint my knight?  I want it to fit in with both my chaos armies - my daemonettes and my emperor's children - I've included representative samples of both armies in the picture above.

 

Now, some things I'm set on:

-  The shoulders (now gray) will be white, with a bright red scale symbol on the front right (back right and whether I will have anything on the left under the spikes are undecided).

-  The centre carapace and at least half the colour on the lower armour will the purple I'm currently using.

- The guns stay dark purple.  The gunshields can and likely will change, but will have gold trim.

-  The gold needs a drybrush, and should hopefully end up looking like the gold on the missile launcher.

 

I'm thinking the pink top carapace is too much, and I do want some pink, but not sure how much.  The least amount would be just the gun shields, but I'm afraid that will leave it too purple if I do the armour all purple and looking too much like my CSM.  If I kept the pink to just the gun shileds, I could swap the pink out for a third colour - maybe ushabi bone.

 

Anyway, your thoughts are most welcome.

[Tallarn Commander]

Hmm, how to differentiate your Knight from your CSM (purple and gold) and daemon (purple and pink) color schemes while simultaneously tying in its color scheme to those 2 armies.

 

I think you've already suceeded. The use of dark purple (guns) and white (shoulderpad) nicely sets the Knight apart from those 2 armies. Yet you also integrate purple, pink, and gold on the knight, thus visually connecting your knight to those armies.

 

Personally, I like the pink on the carapace but the dark purple you used on your armaments would also look nice there. Bone could work well too, it is fairly neutral so that it would not distract the viewer from your main color scheme.

 

P.S. I'll be visiting Canada next week! I'll be wandering up from the Seattle, Washington area to the Vacouver, British Columbia area. I haven't been to Canada since I went to a 2014 conference in Toronto.

 

Good luck on choosing your colors, er, colours!

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Thanks, TC.  I'm glad you like the pink on the carapace.  I agree that the dark purple would look good - in fact, I'm thinking of doing any second renegade knight I might do that way. 

 

Incidentally, if I did go all medium purple with white shoulders and dark purple weapons, it would look pretty much exactly like my CSM: 

 

Have fun in Canada - you'll still be a 14-hour car drive from where I am, but I'll welcome you in spirit if not in person.

Edited July 3, 2019 by Dr_Ruminahui

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Time for an update on my knight - got a bunch more done over the past week (including finishing its guns).  I decided to stick with the pink side carapace and go 1/2 and 1/2 for the leg armour - thanks for the help, TC.  I think I should be able to finish it in the next week, then I'm away for 2 1/2 weeks (so no painting), and then I have most of August to finish the 2 characters and make any revows I still have time for.

 

Here is the knight - top half is mostly done (just the symbol on the left pad, the smoke stacks, and some miscellaneous details and highlighting.  The bottom half needs a lot more work - except for the cod-shield, all I have done is blocked in the main colours.

 

 

Here are the various weapons completed:

 

Here is the right shoulder - pretty happy with how crisp I've gotten it, even if I couldn't get the symbols the same size.

 

 

Oh, and I dropped by my local GW this weekend, and was happy to see they had one of these still in stock to pick up:

In Canada, all the Apocalypse boxes are $ 200, which is the price of the big knight alone, normally - I didn't figure that out until after they were already sold out online, so I'm pretty happy to still have had the opportunity to basically pick up 2 free helvarins (a $90 value).  Don't have the time to do them this ETL, but maybe next one.

Edited July 8, 2019 by Dr_Ruminahui

[Azekai]

Those details look very clean! Looking forward to what you do with the new reinforcements.

[Excessus]

Nice ones doctor!

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Thanks!  I'm glad you both like it.

 

Sad to say Azekai that you'll have some wait for the reinforcements - many things on the paint queue before I get to those. :)

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Finished the knight - really happy with it, though these photos aren't the best.  I decided to dress up the base a bit, and make it look like it was kicking through a low wall.  May go back and take some off some of the dry brushing I did on the bricks on the ground, as they currently blend in a bit too well.

 

Front:

 

Left shoulder:

 

Low front (to show the name scroll saying "Veritas")

Edited July 16, 2019 by Dr_Ruminahui

[Tallarn Commander]

Your Knight is breathtaking! Great color choices and painting. The white and red on the shoulder pads is very striking.

[Excessus]

That really is a slaaneshi knight! :D

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Your Knight is breathtaking! Great color choices and painting. The white and red on the shoulder pads is very striking.

 

I don't know if I've ever done a model described as "breathtaking" before - thanks!  I'm happy (and surprised) that I managed to get the red looking as crisp as I did, though I'm still disappointed I couldn't get the 2 scales the same size.  In any case, I'm glad I did the shoulders as I did (though tip for next time - painting the chaos star then add the spikes - rather than the other way round - would have saved a lot of hassle and made for a cleaner result), as they do add a nice visual interest and counter point to the garish colouration of the carapace and armour.

 

That really is a slaaneshi knight!

 

Thanks!  That's what I was going for  - it is, according to Captain Semper, the funkiest knight he has seen (http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356307-chaos-daemons-outpost/?p=5347837) and I'm happy I could pull that off with only limited conversion.  Though, as noted, next time paint then spikes.

Edited July 16, 2019 by Dr_Ruminahui

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Finally finished painting up the rest of the weapon options for my knight:

 

 

And here are 3 pictures of it with various pieces of the newly painted kit:

 

 

Really happy with how it all turned out - though I may go back and clean up some of my edge highlighting.

Edited December 27, 2019 by Dr_Ruminahui

[Prot]

Nice work. I love the brick work too. 

 

That's a pretty popular configuration for Chaos Knights now... thermal Cannons everywhere. :)

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Thanks, Prot.  The standing brick wall is from a Tamiya model kit (a picture of which can be found here - can't speak for the retailer: https://www.wisorkgoods.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=324461).  The fallen bricks are just snipped up pieces of sprue.

 

Haven't fielded it that way yet - the 2 times I've put it on the table was as avenger + RFBC.  The main bane of my existence are necrons, and that load out deals nicely with both his doom scythes and destroyers.  So, while I don't foresee using the thermal cannon anytime soon, I still wanted it painted so I had the option.

 

How are you fielding your knight(s)?

Edited January 6, 2020 by Dr_Ruminahui

[DuskRaider]

Looking good, Doc.

 

I remember everyone poopooing Twin-Thermal Cannons for the longest time. Avengers this, Avengers that. Sure, the Gatling Cannons are nice but there's something so satisfying about blowing a hole through an enemy LoW that you just don't get with the AGCs.

[Prot]

Well to be honest I have a very bad Knight set up for 'competitive' play, but I love it for fun.

 

I use a Tyrant (Valiant variant). The Harpoon is absolutely terrifying to opponents. However to be honest it is a coin flip for me. Sometimes it does amazing things to vehicles, and the other half of the time it does nothing. It really is an all or nothing kind of weapon. 

 

The 'flamer' type weapon the Tyrant has is amazing for flyers. I really love it. 

 

Again it's an expensive Knight, and I don't think it's competitive but a lot of fun.

 

I've been using the Chaos "preceptor" or Desecrator. I use him with dual Autocannon Wardogs. The aura is nice, but the Preceptor weapon is horrible without the Relic version.

 

Like I said, mostly a fun design but I love my Tyrant.

[Haradni13th]

Looks amazing man! Love the colour scheme..

Hey quick question... in one of your first knight photos theres a figure on the left with pink hair? Do you mind if I ask how tou did it?

Cheers, Anthony. Q

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Thanks!

 

Do you mean the model with purple hair in this post: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356852-the-bringers-of-judgment-dr-ruminahuis-knights/?p=5340503 ?

 

Base coat is GW's Dechala Lylac:  https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Layer-Dechala-Lilac-2019

 

Then I gave it a wash of Createx's Florescent Violet: https://createxcolors.com/airbrush-colors/fluorescent-opaque-colors/5401.html  It's an airbrush paint, but I use it as wash with only a little water added.

 

And that's it.

 

 

I also use the Florescent Violet as a wash over other GW colours to get a range of vibrant pinks and purples.  In this post: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356094-kadeths-handmaidens-dr-ruminahuis-slanneshi-host/?p=5317699 the demonettes have hair in the colour I discussed above, and in GW's Fulgrim Pink ( https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Layer-Fulgrim-Pink-2019) with the same wash, and their clothes are GW's Emperor's Children ( https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Layer-Emperors-Children-2019), again washed with the Createx paint.

 

Hope that helps.

Edited January 24, 2020 by Dr_Ruminahui

[Haradni13th]

Thanks!

 

Do you mean the model with purple hair in this post: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356852-the-bringers-of-judgment-dr-ruminahuis-knights/?p=5340503 ?

 

Base coat is GW's Dechala Lylac:  https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Layer-Dechala-Lilac-2019

 

Then I gave it a wash of Createx's Florescent Violet: https://createxcolors.com/airbrush-colors/fluorescent-opaque-colors/5401.html  It's an airbrush paint, but I use it as wash with only a little water added.

 

And that's it.

 

 

I also use the Florescent Violet as a wash over other GW colours to get a range of vibrant pinks and purples.  In this post: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356094-kadeths-handmaidens-dr-ruminahuis-slanneshi-host/?p=5317699 the demonettes have hair in the colour I discussed above, and in GW's Fulgrim Pink ( https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Layer-Fulgrim-Pink-2019) with the same wash, and their clothes are GW's Emperor's Children ( https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Layer-Emperors-Children-2019), again washed with the Createx paint.

 

Hope that helps.

 

It does mate! Ive been trying to get a real vibrant pink. And failing. Ill grab some createx stuff.

 

Cheers, Anthony.

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Glad to help.  I buy Createx at the local art supply store, so if you want to try to buy it locally, that's where I would start.

 

A couple of things to note:

 

a )  You can really adjust the vibrancy by how much you use, which is nice.

b ) As a wash, its great for textured surfaces but can look blotchy on larger smooth surfaces - for examples, the armpit shields of the knight above or on the stockings of my fiends (http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356094-kadeths-handmaidens-dr-ruminahuis-slanneshi-host/?p=5465758). 

c )  You can mix it with other paints (rather than washing) but it isn't as vibrant and is hard to photograph.  That's what I do for my marines - their armour is 50/50 the createx paint and GW's genestealer purple (http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346143-the-judgment-on-kadeth-dr-ruminahuis-emperors-children/?p=5053619)

 

Incidentally, Createx has a bunch of different florescent colours, which you can see used in some of the HQ choices in my daemonettes thread, painted over white.  None of them are as dark or as vibrant as the purple.

 

Syll'Eske (http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356094-kadeths-handmaidens-dr-ruminahuis-slanneshi-host/?p=5364336) uses blue;

The Epitome (http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356094-kadeths-handmaidens-dr-ruminahuis-slanneshi-host/?p=5369284) uses orange; and

My mounted herald uses red (http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356094-kadeths-handmaidens-dr-ruminahuis-slanneshi-host/?p=5374343).

Edited January 24, 2020 by Dr_Ruminahui

[Haradni13th]

Never even heard of createx until today but jeez they have some nice colours . Im gonna order some tonight. Thanks fornthe tips!

.cheers, Anthony.

Ps your caped conversions are brilliant.!

[Dr_Ruminahui]

For those who are curious, the new chaos war dogs kit bash nicely with the imperial ones, which allow you average out the chaos between the models somewhat.

 

Here are two I built from 1 each of the chaos war dog and the helverin (imperial autocannon war dog) kits:

 

 

All the weapon options are magnetized, using 5mm magnets for the carapace weapons and 7mm for the arm weapons:

 

 

And here they are from a "gaming" view:

 

 

I think I'll redo the magnet on the havoc launcher so it is recessed into the launcher - I may do that with the other carapace guns as well, though except for the havoc launcher the extra height isn't that obvious.

 

For those who are curious, excluding the carapace and arm weapons (as they are swappable):

 

- the left model is the imperial chasis, hips and legs with the face plate, smoke stacks, shoulder pads, leg armor, chains and feet from the chaos model.  The imperial crotch plate doesn't have a slot behind it to hold the chains/banner like the chaos one, but none the less one fits in nicely.

 

- the right model is the chos chasis, hips and legs with the imperial smoke stacks, shoulder pads, leg armour (except the knee pads) and feet.

 

Not sure how I'll swap up the pieces for my second pair when I build them.

Edited May 22, 2022 by Dr_Ruminahui

[_Valten_]

This is what I'm planning on doing.  I was wondering if the front plate from the chassis (where the head fits) is swappable between the two types?  Could you also put the plates from the feet of the imperial one on the clawed chaos feet?