Lemondish Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I would use Terminator arms. And now that I've said it, I actually might. I do like the GINORMOUS power fist he's wielding though, even if the idea is silly. I so wish he had a bolt weapon in his other fist. Seems like a missed opportunity. Mcha0s92 and Rizara 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5392654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 i think he'd look stunning with the Imperial Fist helmet from Kill Team Cassius. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5392995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 I'm curious what the best list for him is. He's a bit pricey at 140+ Being able to give something BS 2+ is dope. I'm thinking he's going to be great alongside some auto bolt rifle intercessors and bolt aggressors backed by a couple repulsors Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5393038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Sacrifice Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 I'm considering him either walking up with 5 aggressors, or riding in a repulsor with 3 and a librarian. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5393077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriwolf Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Using his profile to hit stuff means he's pretty much restricted to running with aggressors (likely in a repulsor since the only alternative is running around on foot) Using his buff means he's at best when sitting near siegebreaker centurions or some other beefy gunline unit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5393168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Using his profile to hit stuff means he's pretty much restricted to running with aggressors (likely in a repulsor since the only alternative is running around on foot) Using his buff means he's at best when sitting near siegebreaker centurions or some other beefy gunline unit If he is hanging out with centurions then he will be a good counter charge unit. Using his profile to hit stuff means he's pretty much restricted to running with aggressors (likely in a repulsor since the only alternative is running around on foot) Using his buff means he's at best when sitting near siegebreaker centurions or some other beefy gunline unit If he is hanging out with centurions then he will be a good counter charge unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5393357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriwolf Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) Using his profile to hit stuff means he's pretty much restricted to running with aggressors (likely in a repulsor since the only alternative is running around on foot) Using his buff means he's at best when sitting near siegebreaker centurions or some other beefy gunline unit If he is hanging out with centurions then he will be a good counter charge unit Eh,i'm not so sure.He's still footslogging it and there is more than a chance that the enemy would charge outside of his threat range,or do so in a way that minimizes his impact. Unless you are placing everything in a castle 12" around him obviously I just feel the 2 "sides" of him are a bit too much at odds with each other but not planning in a way that makes use of both means he comes out not that great at the end Edited September 20, 2019 by Fenriwolf jeremy1391 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5393442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 My game store guy says Saturday October 5th the book drops Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5395849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizara Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 yeah, i was guessing it would go up for preorder this saturday and be released the following. Can't wait, but I guess I could. I want the book, our character, and a couple of impulsors, to round off a few things, but painting the stuff is a bit on hold, I need to get my AoS army finished for a tournament at the end of the month, plus I just broke my needle on my air brush so will need to get that replaced before I can base coat the rest of my fists. Sigh, if it isn't one thing its another. Still looking forward to maybe some more Fist reading material. Gotta keep that inspiration going. jeremy1391 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5395895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 In store on the 5th is too tight, that means pre-order this weekend so Sunday's preview should have mentioned that While i hope its true, I think pre-orders will be 5th October with the release the following weekend painting.for.my.sanity 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5396039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 My game store guy says Saturday October 5th the book drops Your game store guy must be mistaken. If it were to be in the store for sale on the 5th, it would need to be available for pre-order on the 28th. If it were going to be in pre-order on the 28th, the 'next week' preview on the 22nd would have shown it as Cyrox mentions. October 5th for pre-order is still a possibility, though. painting.for.my.sanity and Cyrox 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5396083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Shift Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) My local gw manager says end of October. I wouldn't normally believe him, as I know the managers don't normally have much info, but right at the start when the sm codex first went out for pre order he told me all the managers had been shown all six supplement books already and their release dates (although he wouldn't tell me which chapters!). He basically said the only reason we know about it is that it was leaked, otherwise the teasers wouldn't have appeared for a couple of weeks yet. Just means I have some time to get some painting done, ready for the next release wave. Big decision for me is whether to pay for the limited edition book or not. It seems like a steep price jump for a cover change. Edited September 26, 2019 by Red_Shift painting.for.my.sanity 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5396999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Sacrifice Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Can anybody summarize our rumours / leaks? I've got a bit lost with everything these last couple of weeks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5397160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Can anybody summarize our rumours / leaks? I've got a bit lost with everything these last couple of weeks. The leaks: The official damage control: The rumours: The doctrine bonus is rumoured to be +1 damage on heavy weapons against VEHICLES and BUILDINGS while in the Devastator Doctrine. BitsHammer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5397178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Going to start each day cradling my Repulsor and rocking slowly back and forth in the corner of the room if we don't get more leaks soon... Patience is NOT a virtue! That's just something Ultramarines players say after they get all their shiny toys first :( I do hope the inevitable Bolter Drill Strategem isn't some hideous broken mess. One of the playtesters said he thinks Imperial Fists might be the chapter that puts out the most damage, and while the rules are good so far, I'm mildly worried it'll end up being something like an extra point of damage to a units Bolt Weapons or something insane like that... BitsHammer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5397209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Going to start each day cradling my Repulsor and rocking slowly back and forth in the corner of the room if we don't get more leaks soon... Patience is NOT a virtue! That's just something Ultramarines players say after they get all their shiny toys first :( I do hope the inevitable Bolter Drill Strategem isn't some hideous broken mess. One of the playtesters said he thinks Imperial Fists might be the chapter that puts out the most damage, and while the rules are good so far, I'm mildly worried it'll end up being something like an extra point of damage to a units Bolt Weapons or something insane like that... I’d be ok with that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5397518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 You know what? Now I’ve seen the FAQ and i’m all bitter about losing the funky Infiltrator 2 wounds combo, I’m ok with it too! Bring on some hideous broken Bolter Drill stratagem and it can stay until I get my combo back! Make Infiltrators great again :P jeremy1391 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5397603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Sacrifice Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Ah, I hadn't missed anything then. I was expecting to know a bit more at this stage, maybe the release really isn't any time soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5397804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) From LordValrak, the following was shared in the News and Rumours thread: When Devastator doctrine is active and resolving an attack with a Heavy weapon against a vehicle or building, add 1 to damage So, it's basically what we had all heard from the rumours. I'm starting to come a little bit around to it because I think there's potential for the Stratagems, Relics, Psychic powers, and Warlord traits to provide some interesting benefits that make things more fun. However, I don't really like that this is basically worthless against the biggest castle army there is - Tau. Edited October 3, 2019 by Lemondish Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5400786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 While Tau are frequent users of suits instead of vehicles they still have them. The only army’s that our trait is “worthless” against is daemons and tyranids. But we have bolters for them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5401003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy-inquisitor Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I wanted to bring these rumours across to here rather than clog up the rumour thread with discussion From the french forum (grain of salt guys):- Super doctrine as stated +1 dmg vs vehicles and buildings) we already knew this one)- Psychic powers not crazy and a few geared towards buildings (lol..)- 1CP strat that all intercessors can throw/launch a grenade- Other strats geared towards anti tank but nothing concrete. We have discussed the Doctrine already, seems to me situationally very powerful but we do not control that situation so not game-breaking. Not worthless either; I am not going to be too tempted to bring in another Chapter for their strats and tricks but it may be worth bearing in mind if what we lose is not that relevant to our local meta. Psychic powers geared to buildings is a bit sad because the fortification rules are a bit sad. It would be nice if IF have enough buffs to make fortifications worth considering but I am not going to bet any money on it. The grenade strat is nice, I can only see it being used for Krak grenades but a whole bunch of those are actually pretty nasty against light vehicles and smaller monsters. The value on frag just seems too marginal to be worth the CP in most cases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5401119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellebras Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Yeah, I can see myself using the grenade stratagem occasionally. Single krak grenades don't do enough for me to think about them, but 5-10 at once is a useful addition to the toolbox. Pity I'll probably be in Tactical doctrine by the time I'm pulling it out, because that would synergize nicely with the Devastator doctrine. The doctrine being specific to vehicles (let's face it, the buildings part is just a nod to fluff) doesn't bother me; if any chapter tactic is suited to clearing out chaff, it's ours, and its not like we've lost any of the typical tools to bring down monsters. I'll be interested in seeing the rest of the strategems. jeremy1391 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5401201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I really hope seismic devastation becomes a generic fists strat Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5401288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 More rumours...grain of salt, but it's from our favourite French rumourmonger. - Warlord trait for a free orbital Bombardment - Another warlord trait to gain D3 CP (no indication of whether it's done once or if there's a trigger/another minor component) - Supposedly Bolter Drill remains a strat, but now 2CP? He specifically says no change, still 2CP which is wrong I think, so I have no idea what he's talking about lol - Stratagem? for plus one to a cover save Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5401893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argonte Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 The cover save bonus strat looks nice, and more CP generation is always welcome. Our supp looks neither broken, neither trash if you ignore the buildings rules Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/page/5/#findComment-5401904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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