Oshikai Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Dang, you are right, no Thunderhammer :/, was actually considering one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5368795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Question, do Infiltrators push away drop pods? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5368822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Question, do Infiltrators push away drop pods? yes Infiltrators special rule trumps other rules Hard counter against GSC Not quite as useful against drop pods because a shooting unit will still unleash hell at 12" FAQS Q: If a unit has a rule that says enemy units cannot set up within a certain distance of it (e.g. Omni-scramblers), but an enemy unit has a rule that says it can set up within a certain distance (e.g. Vexilla Teleport Homer and Lying in Wait), which takes precedence? A: The rule that says you cannot be set up within a certain distance (in the example instance, Omniscramblers) always takes precedence Official FAQ https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/warhammer_40000_shadowspear_en-1.pdf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5368832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 If DA's are getting a supplement... BA and SW's should as well, along with DW and GK. If so, we may yet see the option to get Stormravens. Babycarrier-slung Dreadnoughts, as laughable as some might think it is, will be a seriously great threat and press unit with a 'Raven, 10 GH's, WGPL, and 1 HQ backed up by a FGA & BS/SB V-D! They start on the table turn one and can move FAR and press hard! Let alone two, or, just send one and back it up with some units On The Hunt! Edit: Or, 10 BC's! Still going to hurt, might even work better in some cases! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5368836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Minor change that saves points. Helix adept now REPLACES an infiltrator rather than being an extra. so an MSU squad of 5 can take one for a cheap upgrade instead of required 6 minimum. That is a worthwhile upgrade for the list I run. Can clean up random wounds from mortars and wyverns and stay in cover longer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5368838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 If DA's are getting a supplement... BA and SW's should as well, along with DW and GK. If so, we may yet see the option to get Stormravens. Babycarrier-slung Dreadnoughts, as laughable as some might think it is, will be a seriously great threat and press unit with a 'Raven, 10 GH's, WGPL, and 1 HQ backed up by a FGA & BS/SB V-D! They start on the table turn one and can move FAR and press hard! Let alone two, or, just send one and back it up with some units On The Hunt! Edit: Or, 10 BC's! Still going to hurt, might even work better in some cases! I don't think they are getting a supplement, I suspect they are getting a brand new dex. After all Darkangles and blood angles came out fairly fast after marines proper. I suspect they will be getting a new dex. but we will find out soon enough Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5368877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 There were 6 supliments and 6 codex compliant first founding chapters, so my guess is that the 6 supliments will be Ultras, white scars, imperial fists, iron hands, salamanders and raven guard. Then successor chapters can be built using the relevant supliment. Then us, the blood angels and the dark angels will get their own dex as usual. I have no knowledge of it, it just seems logical to me to do it that way. But I guess GW aint always logical Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5368959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Nah we aint getting Stormravens Incursors look good for us, 19 points a model isnt too bad Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5368966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I'm really excited about eliminators. I think the build with 2 las fusil and the instigator bolt carbine is going to be sweet. And for sub 100 points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5369027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I like eliminators but you have to a couple of units. 3 mini squads aren't super dependable. Still cool though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5369129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rums Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I'm liking the new phobos rune priest now he can take wolf psychic powers, looks good for a t1 charge or making to hit rolls difficult any where for an opponent, and add infiltrators or incursors for a supporting screen, everything else just makes us better in general so bikes to me seem like a lot more fun, and an infiltrator gh drop pod combo t1 can be fun Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5369314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rums Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I'm liking the new phobos rune priest now he can take wolf psychic powers, looks good for a t1 charge or making to hit rolls difficult any where for an opponent, and add infiltrators or incursors for a supporting screen, everything else just makes us better in general so bikes to me seem like a lot more fun, and an infiltrator gh drop pod combo t1 can be fun Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5369359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I'm really excited about eliminators. I think the build with 2 las fusil and the instigator bolt carbine is going to be sweet. And for sub 100 points. I am looking forward to Eliminators too although in my case I have adequate anti-tank so I am looking forward to trying out some super-snipers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5369361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf81 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 I played a game vs imperial guard yesterday with sock assault... I won by 1 point in the fifth round and I had more on the board at the end than he did,which is unusual when I play against that army :)... All in all the +1 attack is great for hidden powerfist and combos really nice with wulfen stone. PS 1 I still think jumpack Runepriest is alot better than phobos one ... The ability to jump over units is super good for assault... PS 2 I also played 4 thunderwolves (all shields, 2xpowerfists) the last of them was man of the match cause he managed to take 2 vp in the last round by defending an objective.. Sock assault boosted these guys... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5369554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splog Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 I’m liking that the heroic intervention aspect of our chapter tactics is called ‘born heroes’ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5369821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHowler Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 What do you guys think the odds are that we’ll get a real update before LVO? Do you think this is all we’ll have before then? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5370071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf81 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Minimal to zero if you ask me... There are other chapters and non marine armies (... and sisters.. ) first in line for updates (we had an outdated book but it was released as one of the last 8th edition codices) ... They will probably announce the other 2 vanilla sm supplements during Nova... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5370165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Yeah, sadly with the slow roll they seem to be doing I would say we are looking at early next year (jan-mar) at the earliest. Despite our dragging at the back of the pack, GW does not seem eager to fix things. At least not super fast. But plus side new units to paint and rules to investigate might have given us the bump we need. But I wouldn't plan on having more than we have now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5370248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 I wonder how long until 9th edition? Judging by the history of edition it seems to be about every 3-5 years, and 8th is 2 years old. so another year or two? At that point I would rather not have another codex for 8th edition and have a early jump on 9th edition, instead of waiting over a year for our codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5370274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 I wonder how long until 9th edition? Judging by the history of edition it seems to be about every 3-5 years, and 8th is 2 years old. so another year or two? At that point I would rather not have another codex for 8th edition and have a early jump on 9th edition, instead of waiting over a year for our codex. Id say 2, dont think they would release all these updated codexes and supplements including sisters to have them invalidated next summer The Wulfen dreadnought was a nice add, new model from existing kit. Is there anything else they could do like that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5370282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 I dont know that coming in to an edition early is beneficial. I mean space marines were book one in 8th and they quickly fell behind the curve. I would rather be in the middle. And actually in the middle, unlike 8th where the book that was clearly written with the other non codex chapter books was released 6 months after them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5370288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Weren't GW making noises when 8th launched that they were moving towards longer editions, especially as they added the chance to iterate on the rules with Chapter Approved and the big FAQs? So we wouldn't see a '9th edition' any time soon. Or did I imagine that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5370333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Weren't GW making noises when 8th launched that they were moving towards longer editions, especially as they added the chance to iterate on the rules with Chapter Approved and the big FAQs? So we wouldn't see a '9th edition' any time soon. Or did I imagine that? That does ring a vague bell but I can't recall if it was a solid aspiration or just an idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5370343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 If weve got endless spells coming in the Autumn too that further points to no new edition in 2020 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5370346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Ya, we're in a state of 8th for the next bit. I could see a updated main rule book in 2 years, but we're mainly going to stay in. 8th for a bit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357544-wolves-20-speculation/page/12/#findComment-5370357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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