Pyschic Awakening: Speculation

[Crowl]

Ghost Ferrus leading the LotD would be epic and sort of a catch-all Imperial ally.

 

Orks getting Gork/Mork style entities would be fun. Everything Ork is pretty fun.

 

Chaos will likely get increased access to Daemon summoning, though I hope it will be something more inspired.

 

What would Eldar factions get, just ever-more increased psychic abilities?

 

Necrons, as stated, could easily get Pariahs and noctilith terrain but maybe something to do with the C'Tan would be a fun twist? A return, in part anyway not across all Dynasties, to the lore of yesteryear when they were they masters of the Necrons, not shards enslaved by them (3rd edition).

 

Tyranids are similar to Eldar in that I feel like they will just get far more effective in the psychic phase.

 

I'm interested in endless spells in space, and would be interested in seeing physical psychic barriers as cover or other sum such models akin to what AoS got. That being said I hope it's optional for matched play.

 

Any idea on how could affect Custodes or Sisters of Silence? I have no theories at all for this guys.

[Ciler]

I'm quite sceptical regarding a 9th edition breaking the codex release cycle. Quite a few factions have not gotten an updated codex yet, and I'll be damned if they release new edition of the game without a Space Marine codex, which would be 2 SM codexes in less than 12 month and all SM supplements voided in less than 6. That or this "new" edition is backward compatible which makes it... not much of a change.

[Sete]

That's the point of PA. Update the factions without giving them a codex.

Then if 9th hits, it wont necessarily be a Codex SM, ill bet my money on DA and the Lion coming back.

They just received a WD article, their Primarch is just there waiting to wake up, makes sense for them to be the last ones, and the first of the new edition.

Edited November 22, 2019 by Sete

[Slasher956]

I'm quite sceptical regarding a 9th edition breaking the codex release cycle. Quite a few factions have not gotten an updated codex yet, and I'll be damned if they release new edition of the game without a Space Marine codex, which would be 2 SM codexes in less than 12 month and all SM supplements voided in less than 6. That or this "new" edition is backward compatible which makes it... not much of a change.

 

which is why people are drawing parallels to AoS v2 where it was a tidy up of the rules and a fold in off all the errata.... so it'd be more a 8.5 money print than a true 9th Ed

[Ciler]

which is why people are drawing parallels to AoS v2 where it was a tidy up of the rules and a fold in off all the errata.... so it'd be more a 8.5 money print than a true 9th Ed

Now, that's a more likely outcome all right, essentially a reprint of the rule book to fully account for the various erratas and new rules, without any major systemic changes.

 

Though in that case it does beg the question of the point in getting chapter approved 2019

[Slasher956]

i)points values 

ii) altered datasheets - I suspect that crusaders datasheet & AoF/MD rules will be included for the AsMil codex, on top of any CSM cult units changes

iii) WD lists round up

iv)legends datasheets (?)

v) new missions

[NTaW]

 

 

Ghost Ferrus leading the LotD would be epic and sort of a catch-all Imperial ally.

 

Orks getting Gork/Mork style entities would be fun. Everything Ork is pretty fun.

 

Chaos will likely get increased access to Daemon summoning, though I hope it will be something more inspired.

 

What would Eldar factions get, just ever-more increased psychic abilities?

 

Necrons, as stated, could easily get Pariahs and noctilith terrain but maybe something to do with the C'Tan would be a fun twist? A return, in part anyway not across all Dynasties, to the lore of yesteryear when they were they masters of the Necrons, not shards enslaved by them (3rd edition).

 

Tyranids are similar to Eldar in that I feel like they will just get far more effective in the psychic phase.

 

I'm interested in endless spells in space, and would be interested in seeing physical psychic barriers as cover or other sum such models akin to what AoS got. That being said I hope it's optional for matched play.

Any idea on how could affect Custodes or Sisters of Silence? I have no theories at all for this guys.

They will likely show up in support of some Imperial conflict though, and there's a model for each faction coming out in tribute to their BL stories, but I have no idea what they could receive for rules.

[Crowl]

 

 

 

Any idea on how could affect Custodes or Sisters of Silence? I have no theories at all for this guys.

They will likely show up in support of some Imperial conflict though, and there's a model for each faction coming out in tribute to their BL stories, but I have no idea what they could receive for rules.

 

 

Oh, in that case the 5th book it should be about the Talons of the Emperor, after "Volume 4: Space Wolves vs Ork" in january¿? I didnt Know about the "BL tributes" and I was expecting something "psychic" even for this faction instead of Valerian and Aleya.

[DeadFingers]

If I were you, I wouldn't expect factions to come in any particular order or even to receive the benefit of protagonism. There are still plenty of factions to choose from for books, to the point that they could even do another one without Imperial forces. And if the rumours are right and there are just another five books after Volume 4, then I suspect some factions will get packed as secondary roles. Best case scenario they get a nice set of dedicated rules and a model, maybe even one for each. Or on the other end, they're relegated to being the supporting faction for whoever the main faction is, and no models for them, but a couple of rules.

 

And just because the event is called Psychic Awakening doesn't mean everyone needs psychic-related rules. It's just the name for the overarching narrative.

Edited November 22, 2019 by DeadFingers

[Guest Triszin]

That's the point of PA. Update the factions without giving them a codex.

Then if 9th hits, it wont necessarily be a Codex SM, ill bet my money on DA and the Lion coming back.

They just received a WD article, their Primarch is just there waiting to wake up, makes sense for them to be the last ones, and the first of the new edition.

as a wolf player, dont anticipate stuff based on how long it takes for your codex/supp/update to come out.

CA2020 will be the first patch to the wolves codex, since the day it came out (the replacement page).

 

I am still heavily leaning towards Corax (because GW teased twice) or Russ.

 

But I also suspect there will be a whole slew of primarch tiered characters coming in the next 2-3 years.

Angron, Fulgrim, Ghaz, Ctan, Nid supers, tau supers, and 2 loyalists

[CJL]

I too think that is will be Russ, but as a wolves fan i am probably wishlisting. However the spoilers for Mephiston city of light have magnus doing something big in Prospero to do with the pyschic awakening and mutation and sorcery so who better to stop him than Russ, and this book seems to be fo release in Summer 2020 (although its nothing to do with Russ, just more that the lore is moving forward) around when the 9th Ed is supposed to drop which is also a good time to release another primarch. But whatever happens it seems something big is happening on Prospero 

 

Thats my Theory anyways, wishful thinking 

[Crowl]

If I were you, I wouldn't expect factions to come in any particular order or even to receive the benefit of protagonism. There are still plenty of factions to choose from for books, to the point that they could even do another one without Imperial forces. And if the rumours are right and there are just another five books after Volume 4, then I suspect some factions will get packed as secondary roles. Best case scenario they get a nice set of dedicated rules and a model, maybe even one for each. Or on the other end, they're relegated to being the supporting faction for whoever the main faction is, and no models for them, but a couple of rules.

 

And just because the event is called Psychic Awakening doesn't mean everyone needs psychic-related rules. It's just the name for the overarching narrative.

 

Not at all. I just thought that if the psychic awakening is related with BL and they are gonna release Valerian and Aleya on february it would make sense to have the Talons of the Emperor thing this month on the fifth book. I dont really care if they are going to be protagonist on that one   if you asked I would prefer another custodian mini in june or whatever, the lack of caracthers and postures in them is sad. But honestly I dont expect to have 2 new custodians a 2 new SoS in some months and the said every faction would have at least one miniature so...

[Archaeinox]

Huge guess but I suspect Grey Knights and Thousand Sons will be the last ones, probably a good chance they will bust out the Terminus Decree and shatter any protection around Sortiarius. Imagine a full scale GK incursion on the Planet of the Sorcerers. Pretty good opportunity to reveal any new TS they want to do with the faction, and to give GK a boost somehow as a stand-alone force.

Edited November 24, 2019 by Archaeinox

[Marshal Loss]

Fellow EC enthusiasts: yet another hint that Fulgrim is coming in PA2:

 

 

[Vox Intercept: Yhedaris System]
'Hear this, you simpering lapdogs! You servile, dull creatures. The Illuminator is coming! Yhedaris is but the first brushstroke upon a grand canvas. He is coming, and with him comes an endless carnival of sensation!'

Addendum: Vox transmission hails from the Cathedrum of the Ashen Heart on Ortus Prime. No response along priority channels. Multiple Heretic warships sighted traversing the Cascar Nebula, on a path towards Black Mantle. Iconography matches that of the Emperor's Children, Excommunicate Traitoris.

[Tyriks]

Fellow EC enthusiasts: yet another hint that Fulgrim is coming in PA2:

 

 

[Vox Intercept: Yhedaris System]'Hear this, you simpering lapdogs! You servile, dull creatures. The Illuminator is coming! Yhedaris is but the first brushstroke upon a grand canvas. He is coming, and with him comes an endless carnival of sensation!'

Addendum: Vox transmission hails from the Cathedrum of the Ashen Heart on Ortus Prime. No response along priority channels. Multiple Heretic warships sighted traversing the Cascar Nebula, on a path towards Black Mantle. Iconography matches that of the Emperor's Children, Excommunicate Traitoris.

 

Have you read it? Any fluff synopsis you feel like writing? I'm still on the fence.

[Sonoftherubric21]

Huge guess but I suspect Grey Knights and Thousand Sons will be the last ones, probably a good chance they will bust out the Terminus Decree and shatter any protection around Sortiarius. Imagine a full scale GK incursion on the Planet of the Sorcerers. Pretty good opportunity to reveal any new TS they want to do with the faction, and to give GK a boost somehow as a stand-alone force.

 

I had read that (I don't have citations off hand) that the Ork vs Space Wolf fight is actually take place WITHIN the Prospero system so that release will be when they drop stuff for us. 

 

Models, rules, or otherwise. 

[Marshal Loss]

 

Fellow EC enthusiasts: yet another hint that Fulgrim is coming in PA2:

 

[Vox Intercept: Yhedaris System]'Hear this, you simpering lapdogs! You servile, dull creatures. The Illuminator is coming! Yhedaris is but the first brushstroke upon a grand canvas. He is coming, and with him comes an endless carnival of sensation!'

Addendum: Vox transmission hails from the Cathedrum of the Ashen Heart on Ortus Prime. No response along priority channels. Multiple Heretic warships sighted traversing the Cascar Nebula, on a path towards Black Mantle. Iconography matches that of the Emperor's Children, Excommunicate Traitoris.

Have you read it? Any fluff synopsis you feel like writing? I'm still on the fence.

 

 

I'll write up a proper post/topic soon because I had a bunch of thoughts on PA & GW's campaigns that I wanted to articulate, but the TLDR: story is very short and there isn't much meat to it. Chaos rock up & dominate for a while, loyalist marines arrive & even the scales, then the plot stops; there is no ending or massive plot twist. The story itself is pretty good by GW standards but if you're looking to buy campaign books solely for the narrative, this is not worth your money, imo, there's just so little material.

[Bryan Blaire]

I'm not even sure it should rightfully be called a campaign - it's more like a narrative and rules bridge than anything, it's too wide-spread to be a campaign, IMO, and there doesn't seem to be any overall coordination of any of the forces pursuing a specific outcome, etc.

[Closet Skeleton]

i)points values 

ii) altered datasheets - I suspect that crusaders datasheet & AoF/MD rules will be included for the AsMil codex, on top of any CSM cult units changes

iii) WD lists round up

iv)legends datasheets (?)

v) new missions

 

Leaks show that Crusader lost acts of faith entirely while keeping the Astra Milatarum keyword so they'll need a datasheet but not really any extra rules.

 

[Panzer]

 

TLDR: story is very short and there isn't much meat to it. Chaos rock up & dominate for a while, loyalist marines arrive & even the scales, then the plot stops; there is no ending or massive plot twist. 

So the same old. I learned to expect nothing else from GW by now. ^^

 

I'm not even sure it should rightfully be called a campaign - it's more like a narrative and rules bridge than anything, it's too wide-spread to be a campaign, IMO, and there doesn't seem to be any overall coordination of any of the forces pursuing a specific outcome, etc.

 

Psychic Awakening as a whole is a meta narrative, yes. The individual books are mini campaigns that flesh out the background for the meta narrative though.

[Lexington]

Man, Psychic Awakening is getting up there with that Ultramarines movie in terms of the hype-to-reality gap.

[Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra]

 

Fellow EC enthusiasts: yet another hint that Fulgrim is coming in PA2:

 

 

[Vox Intercept: Yhedaris System]

'Hear this, you simpering lapdogs! You servile, dull creatures. The Illuminator is coming! Yhedaris is but the first brushstroke upon a grand canvas. He is coming, and with him comes an endless carnival of sensation!'

 

Addendum: Vox transmission hails from the Cathedrum of the Ashen Heart on Ortus Prime. No response along priority channels. Multiple Heretic warships sighted traversing the Cascar Nebula, on a path towards Black Mantle. Iconography matches that of the Emperor's Children, Excommunicate Traitoris.

 

*Another* effin' Primarch?

 

Sod this.

[Marshal Reinhard]

I honestly cannot even begin to try and comprehend how the rumors of either fulgrim or angron would come off as a surprise. It's purely a matter of when.

[Chaplain Elijah]

PA1 = Eldars vs Dark Eldars

PA2 = Black Templars vs Chaos Space Marines

PA3 = Blood Angels vs Tyranids

PA4 = Space Wolves vs Orks

 

This left us with 5 PA books before 9th edition hits :

 

PA? = Necrons vs Tau

PA? = Deathwatch vs Genestealer

PA? = Imperial Guard vs Renegade Guard

PA? = Custodes & Sisters of Silence & Grey Knights vs Chaos Demons

PA? = Mechanicus & Imperial Knights vs Dark Mechanicus & Chaos Knights

 

9th = Dark Angels vs Fallens

[Slave to Darkness]

 

 

Fellow EC enthusiasts: yet another hint that Fulgrim is coming in PA2:

 

 

[Vox Intercept: Yhedaris System]

'Hear this, you simpering lapdogs! You servile, dull creatures. The Illuminator is coming! Yhedaris is but the first brushstroke upon a grand canvas. He is coming, and with him comes an endless carnival of sensation!'

 

Addendum: Vox transmission hails from the Cathedrum of the Ashen Heart on Ortus Prime. No response along priority channels. Multiple Heretic warships sighted traversing the Cascar Nebula, on a path towards Black Mantle. Iconography matches that of the Emperor's Children, Excommunicate Traitoris.

 

*Another* effin' Primarch?

 

Sod this.

 

Even though Fulgrims my boy I totally feel you on this. Primarchs should stay in the lore and not on the tabletop. 

 

 

 

PA1 = Eldars vs Dark Eldars

PA2 = Black Templars vs Chaos Space Marines

PA3 = Blood Angels vs Tyranids

PA4 = Space Wolves vs Orks

 

This left us with 5 PA books before 9th edition hits :

 

PA? = Necrons vs Tau

PA? = Deathwatch vs Genestealer

PA? = Imperial Guard vs Renegade Guard

PA? = Custodes & Sisters of Silence & Grey Knights vs Chaos Demons

PA? = Mechanicus & Imperial Knights vs Dark Mechanicus & Chaos Knights

 

9th = Dark Angels vs Fallens

Guard vs Renegade Guard just seems boring, and we dont have a Renegade army list or model range, Blackstone minis dont count in my eyes. Same with Ad Mech vs Dark Mech, we lack Dark Mech minis. 

Dark Angels vs Fallen... Cant see it happening, especially if you mean as a box set, it will just be a massive Dark Angel collection, and unuseable by almost everybody unless they collect Dangles themselves. 

Edited November 24, 2019 by Slave to Darkness