Guest Triszin Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 I wont do that again, the wolves Dex was delayed so long people assumed it was because Russ was going to be in it. :/. It's a March release, we'll just have to wait and see what it holds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 on the other hand, it flips the speculation on who a possible Primarch at the end of it all (purely speculation of course) might be I wouldn't get the wolves hope up again. Wrath of Magnus (pre 8th) was strong suggestions and rumors Russ was coming to deal with Magnus. Delayed codex in 8th was rumors that Russ was coming. PA and again rumors of Russ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 I wont do that again, the wolves Dex was delayed so long people assumed it was because Russ was going to be in it. :/. It's a March release, we'll just have to wait and see what it holds :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Elijah Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Last speculation on Psychic Awakening PA1 = Eldars vs Dark EldarsPA2 = Black Templars & Sisters of Battle vs Chaos Space MarinesPA3 = Blood Angels vs TyranidsPA4 = Space Wolves vs Orks January / February / March PA4 = Dark Angels & Grey Knights vs Thousand Sons (confirmed) PA5 = Tau vs Death Guard & Chaos Knights (as the fluff says) PA6 = Space Wolves vs Orks (as the French rumor said) April / May / JunePA? = Mechanicus & Imperial Knights vs NecronsPA? = Imperial Guard & Deathwatch vs GenestealerPA? = Custodes & Harlequins vs Daemons of Chaos 9th in July painting.for.my.sanity 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 on the other hand, it flips the speculation on who a possible Primarch at the end of it all (purely speculation of course) might be Haven’t the books been super clear that it’s Fulgrim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Fulgrim and Angron are a given, eventually. What's specuition is the possible return of another a loyalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Ah, yeah. I maintain a general (if not particularly strong) belief that another Loyalist Primarch isn’t something that’s in the company’s current plan. Bryan Blaire and D3L 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Fulgrim and Angron are a given, eventually. What's specuition is the possible return of another a loyalist. Atm, corax is most likely imho. Then Russ. But I also think we're going to be getting a ton of primarch tier things soon. Xenos, deamons, primarch everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel_danes Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Ah, yeah. I maintain a general (if not particularly strong) belief that another Loyalist Primarch isn’t something that’s in the company’s current plan. Gotta throw in support on this notion. Bringing RG back complicated the Imperial situation a great deal. Another loyalist resurrection to explain, just makes more hassle than the kit will sell. Sure bump in short term sales, but now mom and dad have to get along. Lexington 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 I hope, given they have saved the trailer for the next PA for Dec. 25th, that PA4 contains something of significant note in the story. Chaplain Elijah 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Ah, yeah. I maintain a general (if not particularly strong) belief that another Loyalist Primarch isn’t something that’s in the company’s current plan. Gotta throw in support on this notion. Bringing RG back complicated the Imperial situation a great deal. Another loyalist resurrection to explain, just makes more hassle than the kit will sell. Sure bump in short term sales, but now mom and dad have to get along. From a cynical standpoint, the extra hastle of justifying Primarchs coming back is minimal compared to the sales that they'd make - how many Guilliman models did they sell do you think? And since he's a special character who's essentially limited to a single subfaction of their best-selling product line, imagine how easily they'd be able to sell a similar model for a different sub-faction. Plus, since they've already decided to move the setting along (one can discuss the merits of the choice, and of the execution, but not here, since that boat has sailed), and since they've sowed enough seeds for even loyalist primarchs coming back over the years/decades, you can bet they'll be doing another one - the question is, before or after the next Chaos Primarch? In all honesty, I would have expected the Emperor's Children to come back in all their decadent glory in Psychic Awakening as opponents of the Aeldari, and the World Eaters in opposition to the Space Wolves and Imperial Guard on Armageddon... But Saga of the Beast does seem to sell the idea that Space Wolves are already earmarked for Orks. In a way I'm disappointed to not get to see such an epic rematch on Armageddon (involving WE, Orks, SW, IG, GK, BA, BT, Sallies...), but then, it's nice to see them exploring new rivalries too... Even if Blood Angels vs Tyranids again and Space Wolves vs Orks again is a bit boring ^^' Of course... We could all be misreading the titular "Beast" of PA6 as Ghaz, it could still end up being Angry Ron Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 In all honesty, I would have expected the Emperor's Children to come back in all their decadent glory in Psychic Awakening as opponents of the Aeldari, and the World Eaters in opposition to the Space Wolves and Imperial Guard on Armageddon... But Saga of the Beast does seem to sell the idea that Space Wolves are already earmarked for Orks. In a way I'm disappointed to not get to see such an epic rematch on Armageddon (involving WE, Orks, SW, IG, GK, BA, BT, Sallies...), but then, it's nice to see them exploring new rivalries too... Even if Blood Angels vs Tyranids again and Space Wolves vs Orks again is a bit boring ^^' Now that we've caught on to Psychic Awakening not being that impactful in terms of narrative and models, at least for the moment, I wouldn't rule out the Armageddon battle royale until Saga of the Beast tells us what Ghaz is planning. Same with the Ynnari and Emperor's Children/Slaanesh. Really, regardless of the rumours for 9th Edition being true or not, and despite the fact that we've only seen two Volumes for the moment, Psychic Awakening reads as setup material, if you ask me. Phoenix Rising is setting up the Ynnari as the main opposing force to Slaanesh, maybe Saga of the Beast will end with Ghaz setting a course for Armageddon again. And who knows what the titular Ritual of the Damned is all about. Considering the Dark Angels are present, the Fallen could be involved as well, at least in the narrative. betrayer41 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaiel Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Speculation from me regarding book 4-6. The open day post says that each book will have one new "champion" either reborn, reimagined or brand-new: Book 4 "The ritual of the damned" Dark angel character either a Primaris Ezekiel or the Primaris DA named in the WD article that got saved from being put in a dreadnought and got Primarised instead. Book 5 "Greater good" Some Tau anime robot character thingie. Book 6 "Saga of the Beast" Primaris Ragnar. I think/hope Ghaz will be released later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Elijah Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I hope, given they have saved the trailer for the next PA for Dec. 25th, that PA4 contains something of significant note in the story. THE LION IS RETURNING Ah erhm sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Tbh, if the trailer is on the 25th... It's actually possible ^^ Though I'd imagine they'd keep a Primarch for a new edition, or the final book of the series... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 If they were releasing a Primarch soon they'd have done it in the run-up to christmas. No way they hold back a major release like that until after the holiday shopping season. Felix Antipodes 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Kais for Tau please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) I hope, given they have saved the trailer for the next PA for Dec. 25th, that PA4 contains something of significant note in the story.THE LION IS RETURNING Ah erhm sorry Somehow I feel like we'll see Luther returning before The Lion... at least, very, very closely behind. Much like how it took the destruction of Cadia to reach the narrative critical mass needed to give Guilliman the defibrillator. Edited December 1, 2019 by Lord Marshal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Dawnstar Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Kais for Tau please Pretty obvious thing to do if the book is indeed T'au/Death Guard. The timeline has him fighting them on a world called Kellik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramis K Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) If they were releasing a Primarch soon they'd have done it in the run-up to christmas. No way they hold back a major release like that until after the holiday shopping season.My guess is most purchases of GW stuff are for ourselves and not as gifts. So Christmas is just a time when customers have less disposable cash. Whereas just after Christmas lots of people have Christmas money to spend... So Christmas reveal and in shops mid Jan makes sense to me. Edited December 1, 2019 by Aramis K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 It would hoover up them vouchers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 From a cynical standpoint, the extra hastle of justifying Primarchs coming back is minimal compared to the sales that they'd make - how many Guilliman models did they sell do you think? And since he's a special character who's essentially limited to a single subfaction of their best-selling product line, imagine how easily they'd be able to sell a similar model for a different sub-faction. Maybe, but I do think this focuses way too much on an existing customer base, while GW's eye is still mostly on increasing its reach rather than extracting more from the customers they already have. From that POV, having two Imperial Primarchs is probably a downside from a simple ease-of-entry standpoint as far as the storyline is concerned. Like, I could be 1000% wrong on this, and maybe the return of Lion El'Johnson and Russ gets announced next week, who knows, but it's just my intuition based on how they've set the story up and what I can tell of their internal thought processes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciler Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 If they were releasing a Primarch soon they'd have done it in the run-up to christmas. No way they hold back a major release like that until after the holiday shopping season.Were Guilliman, Magnus or Mortarion released a xmas tho ? One would argue on the other hand that they have plenty to bolster sales this christmas (battleforces, sisters, ...) ; maybe the smart move would be to push a primarch in what is a business lull, to push up sales then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Magnus Nov. Gulliman was Feb? Mort was August? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Who would argue with Guillian more, the Lion or the Wolf? Probably the Lion, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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