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Pyschic Awakening: Speculation


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Next Monday's short story which will likely post is "Call of the Waaagh!" If you like Orks it's a fun story and well written

 

I hope PA is good to them because I'd like to fight diverse Ork armies other than tons of grot guns :wink:

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That soon? So pa6 will be preorder March 7th?

 

I really hope wolvesbare in it

Didn't they do that already with other volumes? Posting stories and teasers for a volume before the previous one even hits shelves? I think they did that for Blood of Baal during the preorder week for Faith and Fury.

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and a savage Corax

This, I want this. I want him to be Girlyman-sized, I want him to have a pair of super-lightning-claws and I want him to have powers and abilities in line with what he's currently up to in the 42nd, out in the warp. I want him to be a Lord of War, I want him to have at least a Chapter Master aura and I want him to give bonus CP for being Warlord. I want him to have Fly and Monster, and I want him to have a deepstrike and an anti-Overwatch ability. Finally, I want him to be a $60 model like Girlyman so I can afford him.

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The Khan is the only loyalist worth anyone's time in my opinion. Boy, I'm glad Dorn is dead.

 

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But is Dorn dead? Is this just speculation? I want proof of this accusation.

 

Also, where´s the new AM/IG sculpts at?

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Isn't Dorn's body encased in amber and his skeletal hand displayed with the names of each Chapter Master scrimshawed on the bones?

His body encased in amber has been retconned. The hand and all of its scrimshaw is still true.

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The Khan is the only loyalist worth anyone's time in my opinion. Boy, I'm glad Dorn is dead.

 

This post brought to you by the hazard stripe gang

But is Dorn dead? Is this just speculation? I want proof of this accusation.

 

Also, where´s the new AM/IG sculpts at?

Curze prophetic vision/past tense referal of him being Dorn to pieces. 2 seperate books. The latter also mentioned sanguinius and Ferrus also being dead.

 

But he's a madman they say, but he's insane they say. The villain can never possibly tell the truth, because the truth is as weaponised as a well placed lie. But what need has Curze to lie when he's talking to a finely crafted, fleshy, representation of the Emperor.

 

Or you know enjoy the dorn lives meme.

 

Whichever floats your boat :p

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Isn't Dorn's body encased in amber and his skeletal hand displayed with the names of each Chapter Master scrimshawed on the bones?

His body encased in amber has been retconned. The hand and all of its scrimshaw is still true.

 

However we know from "Praetorian of Dorn" that he has access to a couple of Primarch hands should he ever be in the situation where he wants to fake his own death. I just have this lovely little headcannon that the IF Chapter Masters have been carving their names on Alpharius's bones for the last 9000 years. :biggrin.:

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Curze prophetic vision/past tense referal of him being Dorn to pieces. 2 seperate books. The latter also mentioned sanguinius and Ferrus also being dead.

 

But he's a madman they say, but he's insane they say. The villain can never possibly tell the truth, because the truth is as weaponised as a well placed lie. But what need has Curze to lie when he's talking to a finely crafted, fleshy, representation of the Emperor.

Ruinstorm heavily implies that Curze's visions are not guaranteed. Rather they tend to show the worst possible futures and being a nihilist, he tends to act in a way that brings those worst futures about.

 

We know that Curze tried to warn Dorn but it all went a but pear-shaped. We also know that Sanguinius understands the nature of Curze's visions. Possibly he warned Dorn prior to the Siege and Dorn took precautions (Back to the Future style).

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I think the retcons have been deliberate to promote ambiguity. We have no idea about the fates of Dorn and Valdor in the current fluff.

Sometimes I feel like GW makes more retcons than it does new fluff. If Dorn isn't dead but just oddly missing a hand and taking 10,000 year vacation what's to stop them from retconning and/or bringing back Horus, Sanguinius, Manus, Curze and Alpharius/Omegon... And the retcons are for sure promoting ambiguity and eventually sales.

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It's not that big a retcon though, considering that Dorn being dead is from the novel Space Marine which was out of print for many years and also featured buttock branding and space marines piloting titans. Sanguinius' sacrifice on the other hand has been major stuff for years across different publications.

 

Back to psychic awakening speculation, is Yarrick now dead? He was old at the time of the last Armageddon conflict and I can't see much of a role for him going forward with his age. Which leaves the guard with basically no memorable characters as Creed was turned into a museum exhibit. Bit of a mess, imo, destroyed Cadia, the planet that the current miniature range is based around, killed off the characters and left the fan base a bit high and dry. Surely there will have to be new guard infantry and characters before long?

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I think the retcons have been deliberate to promote ambiguity. We have no idea about the fates of Dorn and Valdor in the current fluff.

Sometimes I feel like GW makes more retcons than it does new fluff. If Dorn isn't dead but just oddly missing a hand and taking 10,000 year vacation what's to stop them from retconning and/or bringing back Horus, Sanguinius, Manus, Curze and Alpharius/Omegon... And the retcons are for sure promoting ambiguity and eventually sales.

 

 

Honest answer? Nothing is stopping them from doing that. They can do literally everything they want to with their fictional universe. The only question is whether or not they think it's a good idea to do so.

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I think the retcons have been deliberate to promote ambiguity. We have no idea about the fates of Dorn and Valdor in the current fluff.

Sometimes I feel like GW makes more retcons than it does new fluff. If Dorn isn't dead but just oddly missing a hand and taking 10,000 year vacation what's to stop them from retconning and/or bringing back Horus, Sanguinius, Manus, Curze and Alpharius/Omegon... And the retcons are for sure promoting ambiguity and eventually sales.

Every Primarch has a possible way of returning, at least in some form. There have been strong theories and even lore hints about it.

 

Horus= His soul was shoved inside Abaddon.

Sangy=Soul floats around the warp

Manus=Leads the LotD

Curze=unconfirmed death

Alpharius= Omegon isn't dead, or there is a triplet, or this Primarch can clone itself.

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