How will the Psychic Awakening affect the Grey Knights?

[Corvus Fortis]

 

While I agree it looks like they don't get Doctrines, it doesn't outright state that - it could be they get Doctrines and the Masters of the Warp ability is instead of a faction specific Doctrine.

 

 

Why would they? Every factions have only single monofaction bonus.

 

But what worries me more is possible lack of profile changes. This mean, we will stuck with "reroll failed hit rolls" on Draigo and other unpleasant stuff.

[TheMostGood]

It’ll be interesting to see what they do with GK.

 

IMHO, this will be the real test to see if GW understands what needs to be done for this faction.

 

Cautiously optimistic.

[Waking Dreamer]

So, Masters of the Universe Warp - what do people here think of the chances GK will be given 6 choices of army-wide buffs either before the battle or before each turn?

 

They mentioned "plenty of new tricks", so 6 buffs makes reasonable sense, especially if they are following the pattern of Sacred Rites / Canticles of the Omnissiah buffs. 

 

Aspects of the Warp could have strong connections to obviously the psychic phase but even deepstriking rules too....?

[TheMostGood]

I’m thinking it’s going to open up other psychic trees for GK to pull from, like Librarius.

 

But that’s only if you have a full GK army.

 

They might also have some other army wide buffs too.

[Archaeinox]

To me, ya'll are more like psychic warrior monks than mages shooting Fireball..... That would be in line with what I expect GK to do on the table. They should be absolute buff machines. Librarius would be nice! I hope you get it.

[Captain Coolpants]

Would have been nice to give us a little more info! I mean it was Christmas! And such a lame reveal.

[Corvus Fortis]

So, Masters of the Universe Warp - what do people here think of the chances GK will be given 6 choices of army-wide buffs either before the battle or before each turn?

 

 

Guts tell me that it will be a choice of free before the battle. A blind guess.

 

Aspects of the Warp could have strong connections to obviously the psychic phase but even deepstriking rules too....?

 

It could be anything, just caused by psychic powers fluff-wise. Maybe we will get stuff like shrouding back? I also hope by "new tricks" they mean psychic powers, warlord traits, relics and stratagems.

 

Would have been nice to give us a little more info! I mean it was Christmas! And such a lame reveal.

 

 

I think, preoder could be already on the next week or a week after that. After two years of waiting for update this is not that much.

[casb1965]

My guess is that Masters of the Warp will be army wide psychic buffs chosen pre-game that affect the psychic phase. Such as a +1 to cast, multi-casting for free or - 1 to deny. Just trying to think of 6 options within the psychic phase.

[Justicar Boreq]

My guess is that Masters of the Warp will be army wide psychic buffs chosen pre-game that affect the psychic phase. Such as a +1 to cast, multi-casting for free or - 1 to deny. Just trying to think of 6 options within the psychic phase.

Multicast would be nice if we got few more options with psychic phase. However, we still would be left mostly with one psychic power known by each basic unit. I wish it would be combined with being able to choose any psychic power from sanctic and few new powers, like +2" to charge or changing sanctuary to +1 to save and Inc save.

 

It's much to expect, but in preview they called Masters of the warp "powerful"

[Archon_77]

Perhaps we get Psybolts defaulted on all our bolters?   Its not crazy out of line considering standard Marine power levels.... Str 4 Ap 1 on all the time, maybe Str 5 vs daemons

 

Its also VERY likely that we get a customized Psyker discipline to draw powers from.

 

I'm more worried about Draigo personally.  I bet he dies because GW loves to :cuss on us.

[techsoldaten]

 

My guess is that Masters of the Warp will be army wide psychic buffs chosen pre-game that affect the psychic phase. Such as a +1 to cast, multi-casting for free or - 1 to deny. Just trying to think of 6 options within the psychic phase.

Multicast would be nice if we got few more options with psychic phase. However, we still would be left mostly with one psychic power known by each basic unit. I wish it would be combined with being able to choose any psychic power from sanctic and few new powers, like +2" to charge or changing sanctuary to +1 to save and Inc save.

 

It's much to expect, but in preview they called Masters of the warp "powerful"

 

I played a lot of games with homeruled multi-cast on Grey Knights.

 

It makes a big difference when you can Gate of Infinity half your army each turn, or use Hammerhand across the line.

 

Doesn't solve issues with charges, but means your low-model count, slow-moving army is not stuck on one side of the table.

[casb1965]

 

 

My guess is that Masters of the Warp will be army wide psychic buffs chosen pre-game that affect the psychic phase. Such as a +1 to cast, multi-casting for free or - 1 to deny. Just trying to think of 6 options within the psychic phase.

Multicast would be nice if we got few more options with psychic phase. However, we still would be left mostly with one psychic power known by each basic unit. I wish it would be combined with being able to choose any psychic power from sanctic and few new powers, like +2" to charge or changing sanctuary to +1 to save and Inc save.

 

It's much to expect, but in preview they called Masters of the warp "powerful"

 

I played a lot of games with homeruled multi-cast on Grey Knights.

 

It makes a big difference when you can Gate of Infinity half your army each turn, or use Hammerhand across the line.

 

Doesn't solve issues with charges, but means your low-model count, slow-moving army is not stuck on one side of the table.

 

 

Being stuck with only 1 Gate or 1 Hammerhand is a real pain, to be able to multi-cast would be a great help.

 

The low model count has been slightly alleviated by CA:2019

[newdigitalGK]

I hope come Monday we get some substantially more information. But knowing our luck it'll still be DA focused.

[Corvus Fortis]

Of course, it will be DA. But I'm pretty sure, we are the second ones.

[Ichar]

Well there won’t be any information on Monday. Those long suffering Kharadron and Tzeentch players in AOS get this week’s release. So maybe sometime in the future because it very well could be a 2 week release for the sigmar stuff. I guess it would have been too hard to release the PA book and one model before a two army rework, box set, dice, cards, models, etc.

 

What’s another few weeks you ask? An eternity when you have been waiting for years.

Edited December 30, 2019 by Ichar

[Archaeinox]

Well there won’t be any information on Monday. Those long suffering Kharadron and Tzeentch players in AOS get this week’s release. 

 

Confirmed where? 

[Ichar]

 

 

Well there won’t be any information on Monday. Those long suffering Kharadron and Tzeentch players in AOS get this week’s release.

Confirmed where?

Warhammer Community. Previews for this release through the week. Pre-order will be the 4th of January. Which means the absolute earliest we could have PA 4 in hand would be the 18th. If we are very lucky. Edited December 30, 2019 by Ichar

[Archaeinox]

They will probably put out the Enmity's Edge short story (DA) tomorrow, with it being Monday. Could be both this week for preorder. I'm just sayin- since we're speculating. That'd make 3 PA IV short stories (the other books were on preorder by the time 2 or 3 stories posted at least). But yeah I could see AoS stuff taking up this entire week, sure.. 

Edited December 30, 2019 by Archaeinox

[Corvus Fortis]

Rumors mentioned only two short stories. I'm pretty sure that AoS is a one week release and PA4 is right after it. So I bet on 18th January.

 

It feels kind of ironic, that I'm both GK and Seraphon player and Tzeentch+KO release denied me rule updates for both armies.

[Archaeinox]

The info for the short stories came from me. I've seen the DA .pdf. It's probably next. Not much GK in it besides their mention.

[Justicar Boreq]

I wish they revealed at least one thing from new PA

[Corvus Fortis]

At least we have a second story now. From the Azrael words, if I got it right, GK ask DA to join their expedition. When I read the rumor, it looked more like GK couldn't get handle the stuff themselves and called for aid in the process. That's why I got angry in the first place.

[Archaeinox]

What I suspect is that the GK are sick of mucking about and just want to use overwhelming force to be rid of this scourge once and for all. 

 

I think TS are about to get rekt

[Corvus Fortis]

I think TS are about to get rekt

 

 

But we all know that everything will end with a stalemate. I could bet, Draigo will fight Magnus, but ultimately lose and get badly wounded. But Lazarus will attack Magnus himself and take him down, because he is Primaris and hate psykers. Everything will explode and everyone escapes in the last moment. But there is a chance that Magnus will manage to complete his ritual setting in motion something big (see Traitors Hate).

 

I'd really wish this PA would involve Terminus Decree (they promised something really game-changing, right?), but it looks like we have to wait for the next edition.

[Archaeinox]

Yes I would love to see Terminus Decree but I think that will be stuck in The-Two-Missing-Legions sort of land forever and be just mysterious for the sake of mystery.

Edited December 31, 2019 by Archaeinox