Guest Triszin Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 imo, apothecaries should have jump packs and iron halo as standard. just make them into a semi tanky hq choice that is focused on support of infantry Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5428177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Probably better to bring back refractor fields and give them a 5++. Iron halo wouldn't make sense. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5428220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Antodeniel Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Regarding Mephiston, i think that as important as the Character rules, would be an expanding of the Sanguinary Discipline, with either access to the Librarius codex discipline, should the BA codex becomes a supplement in the future, or with a raw expansion of the Sanguinary Discipline. An expansion of the Sanguinary Discipline with powers akin the old "fear of the darkness" that would act on the Moral, or life stealing powers (You wound on 5+ and regenerate one HP, for example), or raw healing powers (regenerate D3 wound for friendly unit for example). It could be interresting, and even more if Mephiston were allowed to manifest three powers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5428243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I'd love if GW remember refractor fields for marine HQs. Somehow the milions of commissars and guard officers all get issued one, but one of the few thousand high command marines in the galaxy? Nah. If you aren't worth an iron halo or in terminator armor, you get no invuln save. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5428244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I'd love if GW remember refractor fields for marine HQs. Somehow the milions of commissars and guard officers all get issued one, but one of the few thousand high command marines in the galaxy? Nah. If you aren't worth an iron halo or in terminator armor, you get no invuln save. Or an Rosarius. Chaplains even got it buffed to a 4++ this edition. ;) Luckily the guys carrying the geneseed, and especially ours who have the blood of Sanguinius in their veins, aren't as important as a Chaplain or Captain apparently. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5428509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splog Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 ? Haven’t Chaplains had 4++ conversion field saves for decades? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5428674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 mini trailer today. Mephiston on top of a pile of zoanthropes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5428683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 No, they had a 5++ before. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5428686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 It was 4+ as far back as 5th at least. Before that I don't know. But the fact that librarians, lieutenants, ancients, and apothecaries can't have any protection beyond their armor is kinda silly, considering how important they are. Anyway, Triszin, or anyone, got a link? Nvm, here it is https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/17/psychic-awakening-blood-and-talons/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5428705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Chaplains rozarius has been a 4+ since second edition. Possibly you might be getting it mixed up with a combat shield? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5428749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuEru Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 There are "Darkness in the Blood" Spoilers running around by now, especially regarding Mephiston, Dante, the Sanguinor and how the Tyranids engage the Blood Angels, which could also make their way into PA3: https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/dxwwoe/interesting_bits_from_the_darkness_in_the_blood/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5429056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Holy crap the amount of revelations Haley has packed into this novel. This will be a must read for every Blood Angels fan. Edit: also for anyone who wants to read the novel and experience these "holy , really?!" moments, don't click on the link! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5429062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverson Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Can not wait to read that book, going to be epic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5429189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 There are "Darkness in the Blood" Spoilers running around by now, especially regarding Mephiston, Dante, the Sanguinor and how the Tyranids engage the Blood Angels, which could also make their way into PA3: https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/dxwwoe/interesting_bits_from_the_darkness_in_the_blood/ Huh. So I'm getting the vibe. Sanguinis soul split like magnus into shards. There's a shard in sanguinor and now a shard in mephiston? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5429195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Mephiston is looking quite healthy in the new banner art for Blood of Baal: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5429201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 So I'm getting the vibe. Sanguinis soul split like magnus into shards. There's a shard in sanguinor and now a shard in mephiston? It sounds more like the Sanguinor and Mephiston are avatars of two conflicting aspects which may or may not origin with Sanguinius, with the noteable difference that the Sanguinor has given himself completely to that noble and heroic aspect (so he basically became that aspect himself) while Mephiston is 'just' channeling the dark aspect. It's entirely possible that those two aspects just have manifested in Sanguinius and in return got shaped by him since that's how weird the warp and primarchs can be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5429224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 When is this book going on pre-order? Anyone know? I remember them mentioning the special edition of the book with all the extra goodies. I only really wanted the coin and the hardback book though. :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5429354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronos1985 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Probably will be on pre-order alongside PA3. Early December, maybe mid December at the latest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5429367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redshadow Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 This is awesome Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5429369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathstrider Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Best we know is 30th Nov preorder according to the rumours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5429409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Looks like we have a new "canon" name for so called "Firstborne" -> "Principia is Cawl's term for the old version of marines" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5429464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 There are "Darkness in the Blood" Spoilers running around by now, especially regarding Mephiston, Dante, the Sanguinor and how the Tyranids engage the Blood Angels, which could also make their way into PA3: https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/dxwwoe/interesting_bits_from_the_darkness_in_the_blood/ Guys, if anyone hasn't seen this yet- head over to that link. It's a must read. WOW. I'm not a huge fluff junkie, but this is epic ,epic, epic stuff for the BA. Absolutely epic. Really cool to read. But be wary- it's essentially the book with full SPOILERS! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5429467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Mephiston is looking quite healthy in the new banner art for Blood of Baal: He could totally be holding a guitar in his left hand, pointing at the audience. I also like how he has a bit more of Sanguinius' looks to him, though I know others will miss his"dark lord" visage from previous depictions. Personally, I love the idea of him having the facial features of Sangy, but being far darker and more menacing. I put my own thoughts on the Spoilers so far here as well: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359973-darkness-in-the-blood-spoilers-incoming/?p=5429462 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5429470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 When is this book going on pre-order? Anyone know? I remember them mentioning the special edition of the book with all the extra goodies. I only really wanted the coin and the hardback book though. Best we know is 30th Nov preorder according to the rumours. That's only for the model, the Mephiston book (City of Light) and PA3. The Dante book (Darkness in the Blood) will be sometime next year. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5429566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 What's the bet he's gonna be a Primarch-level LoW? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359365-new-mephistonpsychic-awakening-p3/page/15/#findComment-5429582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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