Thalidar Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Hi guys Do any of the ezy to build models from shadowspear or the new Start collecting Primaris Vanguard set (same models) work with Imperial fists? I'm concerned as theirs a severe lack of options with the ezy to builds in relation to weaponry, so trying to determine if I'm I better off going through normal boxes. Cheers Thalidar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359590-primaris-start-collecting-vanguard-squad/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I'm concerned as theirs a severe lack of options with the ezy to builds in relation to weaponry, Well in this case, the Suppressors and Infiltrators only have one weapon option in the rules anyway, and no options to give Sergeants wargear. The Infiltrators even come with an option you can't get in the multipart kit, which is the Helix Adept. The only thing you miss out on is the Comms Array (and I guess the option to build Incursors instead, but if you want Incursors you wouldn't be considering this box for that anyway.) The only place you're really going to notice the lack of options is on the Eliminators which come with Bolt Sniper Rifles, whereas the multipart kit allows you to take Las-Fusils instead. That may be a consideration, although it could be argued that the Bolt Sniper Rifles fill a particular niche (taking out support characters) that isn't really covered by much else, whereas the Las-Fusils provide anti-tank fire you might already have covered by other units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359590-primaris-start-collecting-vanguard-squad/#findComment-5417686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrés Pacheco Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Infiltrators are great as Fists, with the exploding 6s and gun line protection. Surpressors benefit from the super doctrine for AP-3 D3 autocannons. Bolt rifle eliminators also benefit from the Fists tactic, whilst providing a useful sniper benefit, as noted above. I would say the SC is a great box for Fists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359590-primaris-start-collecting-vanguard-squad/#findComment-5417802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalidar Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 Thanks guys, Appreciate the advice. I'll look to pick it up then and better add some additional anti vehicle fire power as only otherwise have the Dark Imp' set and the Tactical Warsuit. Cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359590-primaris-start-collecting-vanguard-squad/#findComment-5418092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Duregar Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I'm concerned as theirs a severe lack of options with the ezy to builds in relation to weaponry, Well in this case, the Suppressors and Infiltrators only have one weapon option in the rules anyway, and no options to give Sergeants wargear. The Infiltrators even come with an option you can't get in the multipart kit, which is the Helix Adept. The only thing you miss out on is the Comms Array (and I guess the option to build Incursors instead, but if you want Incursors you wouldn't be considering this box for that anyway.) The only place you're really going to notice the lack of options is on the Eliminators which come with Bolt Sniper Rifles, whereas the multipart kit allows you to take Las-Fusils instead. That may be a consideration, although it could be argued that the Bolt Sniper Rifles fill a particular niche (taking out support characters) that isn't really covered by much else, whereas the Las-Fusils provide anti-tank fire you might already have covered by other units. Ah, there is no Helix Adept in the Infiltrators boxed set?? Damn.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359590-primaris-start-collecting-vanguard-squad/#findComment-5418168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
painting.for.my.sanity Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Ah, there is no Helix Adept in the Infiltrators boxed set?? Damn.. No, though the comms relay guy's forearm is close enough that if suitably painted, and if he was given a standard head and backpack (the parts are available in the kit) that I'd expect most opponents would be fine with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359590-primaris-start-collecting-vanguard-squad/#findComment-5418533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Ah, there is no Helix Adept in the Infiltrators boxed set?? Damn..No, though the comms relay guy's forearm is close enough that if suitably painted, and if he was given a standard head and backpack (the parts are available in the kit) that I'd expect most opponents would be fine with it. If you take the chain blade from a tartoros chain fist (it’s it’s own bit) you can easily throw it on the fancy comm arms that are in the infiltrators kit and then throw an incursor light thing on his back pack. Boom helix adept Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359590-primaris-start-collecting-vanguard-squad/#findComment-5420727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Sacrifice Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Do you guys find the comms guy to be worthwhile? Thinking of building a couple, but not sure whether they will just sit on the shelf at 10 points each. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359590-primaris-start-collecting-vanguard-squad/#findComment-5420962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Do you guys find the comms guy to be worthwhile? Thinking of building a couple, but not sure whether they will just sit on the shelf at 10 points each.If you plan on running a vanguard captain and LT then yes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359590-primaris-start-collecting-vanguard-squad/#findComment-5421158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galron Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Are we sure they are going to be easy to build? I was thinking of getting it as well, if its easy to build though then that's a deal breaker. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359590-primaris-start-collecting-vanguard-squad/#findComment-5422155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Are we sure they are going to be easy to build? I was thinking of getting it as well, if its easy to build though then that's a deal breaker. It's monopose - they still require glue unlike the actual easy to build kits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359590-primaris-start-collecting-vanguard-squad/#findComment-5422284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Sacrifice Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 They have better poses than the new boxed kit IMO. I also prefer the Dark Imperium Intercessors to their boxed counterpart. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359590-primaris-start-collecting-vanguard-squad/#findComment-5422402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 They have better poses than the new boxed kit IMO. I also prefer the Dark Imperium Intercessors to their boxed counterpart.They're definitely poses you can't recreate in the kit, which I like. Same with some from DI...but I'd prefer the ability to make some auto bolt rifles out of the DI set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359590-primaris-start-collecting-vanguard-squad/#findComment-5422409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Mixing parts from the Incursor/Infiltrator box does get you a nice variety of poses. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359590-primaris-start-collecting-vanguard-squad/#findComment-5423593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I agree that, if infiltrators are what you want, a great option is to get this box and the multiparty set. You can then mix and match parts to avoid duplicates. You could do the same with your eliminators. Eliminators are great and suppressors look decent too. I’m not totally sue on infiltrators, as stalker rifles seem so good, but they’re probably the best screening unit in 40k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359590-primaris-start-collecting-vanguard-squad/#findComment-5423913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 I plan on picking this set up because everything in it helps us, it’s all either bolters or heavy weapons or both. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359590-primaris-start-collecting-vanguard-squad/#findComment-5424890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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