Cris R Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 The new Lion El'Jonson model revealed in the Warhammer Preview is absolutely spectacular. Everything about just works perfectly and the paint scheme absolutely nails the feel of the First Legion in 30k. Needless to say, I feel very happy I'm putting together a Dark Angels list for 30k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362858-lion-el%E2%80%99jonson-model/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Link for pics: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362856-horus-heresy-primarch-reveal-lion-eljonson/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362858-lion-el%E2%80%99jonson-model/#findComment-5497801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) Rules, from Andy Hoare: - Lion has a strength of 7, Wolf Blade gives +3 (so he hits at S10) - You take the Lion Sword if you want to kill general stuff and the Wolf Blade if you want to kill monsters Thrilled with the model. Absolutely spectacular Edited March 28, 2020 by Marshal Loss Sandlemad, Gederas, Aztek and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362858-lion-el%E2%80%99jonson-model/#findComment-5497802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Rules, from Andy Hoare: - Lion has a strength of 7, Wolf Blade gives +3 (so he hits at S10) - You take the Lion Sword if you want to kill general stuff and the Wolf Blade if you want to kill monsters Thrilled with the model. Absolutely spectacular Any more details on rules or hints about any other releases? Assuming not but thought I'd ask anyway... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362858-lion-el%E2%80%99jonson-model/#findComment-5497810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 So incredibly thrilled. I am stunned honestly. With all this virus stuff I've been in kinda a slump, but man, this has been a good morning. Can't wait to have this guy on the board. Papa Lion! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362858-lion-el%E2%80%99jonson-model/#findComment-5497838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer&Maul Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Well...I have always wanted to paint some Night Lords.. Cris R 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362858-lion-el%E2%80%99jonson-model/#findComment-5497995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Pheidias Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 So excited for all Dark Angels-players out there. It's an outstanding model, consider me more than tempted to get it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362858-lion-el%E2%80%99jonson-model/#findComment-5498060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Great Model. The scenic base is a beauty. Aztek 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362858-lion-el%E2%80%99jonson-model/#findComment-5498247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Gilead Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 We know very little of the rules, but him being base strength 7 was a bit of a surprise. Not that he has been depicted as a weakling or anything, but he hasn't really been depicted as ridiculously strong either like Ferrus Manus or Magnus the Red. I would not have expected him to be stronger than Leman Russ in the crunch. Aztek 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362858-lion-el%E2%80%99jonson-model/#findComment-5498249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Advantage of being last. You get the best power creep . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362858-lion-el%E2%80%99jonson-model/#findComment-5498250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) We know very little of the rules, but him being base strength 7 was a bit of a surprise. Not that he has been depicted as a weakling or anything, but he hasn't really been depicted as ridiculously strong either like Ferrus Manus or Magnus the Red. I would not have expected him to be stronger than Leman Russ in the crunch. Ehhh I would dispute that. In the new Primarch novel for the Lion, the 1st Legion and the Lion are literally called "The Final Solution". Russ is described as the scary dog you keep on your lawn, while Jonson is the person who will erase you from existence and not raise a fuss about it. One is a deterrent you hopefully never have to use, the other is a sanction you use quietly and ruthlessly. Edited March 29, 2020 by Aztek Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362858-lion-el%E2%80%99jonson-model/#findComment-5498258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elzender Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) But Aztek, I've always read that kind of descriptions more in reference to the modus operandi and the character of the Lion and of the I Legion, as in they will do whatever necessary to achieve their objectives, no matter the cost or collateral effects. That to me does not suggest that the Lion is stronger or more powerful physically than most primarchs, just that he is a cold, ruthlessly efficient warrior and strategist. At any rate, I guess it is a way to give the Lion some difference when compared to Russ combat-wise: while Russ has the versatility to change between weapons as he carries both of them to battle, the Lion has to decide whether he's in the mood for getting drenched in whatever bits fly off of his enemies or he prefers to just loop heads/limbs off all day long. Edited March 29, 2020 by Elzender Brother-Captain Gilead, Aztek and Sandlemad 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362858-lion-el%E2%80%99jonson-model/#findComment-5498268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 But Aztek, I've always read that kind of descriptions more in reference to the modus operandi and the character of the Lion and of the I Legion, as in they will do whatever necessary to achieve their objectives, no matter the cost or collateral effects. That to me does not suggest that the Lion is stronger or more powerful physically than most primarchs, just that he is a cold, ruthlessly efficient warrior and strategist. At any rate, I guess it is a way to give the Lion some difference when compared to Russ combat-wise: while Russ has the versatility to change between weapons as he carries both of them to battle, the Lion has to decide whether he's in the mood for getting drenched in whatever bits fly off of his enemies or he prefers to just loop heads/limbs off all day long.Back in the days it was the other way round. Russ was the powerhouse and Lion was the swift one. Brother-Captain Gilead and Aztek 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362858-lion-el%E2%80%99jonson-model/#findComment-5498315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Gilead Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 We know very little of the rules, but him being base strength 7 was a bit of a surprise. Not that he has been depicted as a weakling or anything, but he hasn't really been depicted as ridiculously strong either like Ferrus Manus or Magnus the Red. I would not have expected him to be stronger than Leman Russ in the crunch. Ehhh I would dispute that. In the new Primarch novel for the Lion, the 1st Legion and the Lion are literally called "The Final Solution". Russ is described as the scary dog you keep on your lawn, while Jonson is the person who will erase you from existence and not raise a fuss about it. One is a deterrent you hopefully never have to use, the other is a sanction you use quietly and ruthlessly. I get that part, but I think it was more that when the Wolves came it was like a Viking raid: they killed all of the soldiers and everyone resisting, but that was it. When the First were given orders to annihilate something it was more like what happened with Carthage after the second Punic war: everyone was killed or enslaved and nothing was left were Carthage once was because no stone was left on stone and whatever land there was was salted so that nothing could grow there. These differing approaches are realized in very different ways: For the Wolves it was a brutal and savage exercise, for the First it was mechanical and emotionless. Leman led the charge for the Wolves while the Lion planned how to ensure the utter annihilation of the enemy and the First put that plan into effect. Leman would be bursting through walls and tearing down buildings by himself while the Lion would lead by example as befits a grandmaster of an order of knights. Aztek and Morovir 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362858-lion-el%E2%80%99jonson-model/#findComment-5498525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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