Taliesin Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) Is Penndraig a FW representative? I want it in my hands as much as the next man but I don't think it's fair to blame FW because someone on the internet posted information that was inaccurate or outdated. His information was accurate, it came straight from FW at the event. Which is actually the only way you will ever get some info out of Forgeworld because they do not give info on upcoming releases in any format. Speaking to Andy Hoare himself during warhammer fest Europe , was the only way I could get some info on upcoming books two years ago for instance. What you seem to be unaware of is that there already was a delay with this book last year. We got reports even in 2018 about it being well advanced and in process due to the delay they had with the previous book, Malevolence. When that book came out, Crusade was 3/4th finished already as per Pendraigg who spoke to them early 2019. FW then said it would come out in 2019 ( on FW day, never on the internet because as said they simply dont say anything at all online). But obviously that didnt happen and we also heard that they decided to cut Dark Mechanicum out of this book. Getting any info out of them requires Inquisitioner's tools. Even the few dedicated Twitch sessions about Age of Darkness are veiled in complete mystery when it comes to actual info. Edited July 7, 2020 by Taliesin RedFurioso 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5556814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 So the info is well outdated then, as I suggested, and superceded by numerous Road to Thramas articles saying 2020. These same delays and problems plagued Inferno as well - kinda par for course with FW. And that is without the issues that COVID has caused. Guess I just don't understand why people are so frustrated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5556823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) No man, you are deliberately misinterpreting what is being said. And maybe you dont want to understand, because as you say you werent aware of the previous issues. Summing up, it was reported by FW on events as coming out in 2019. That didnt happen. You can say that information is outdated now, yes that is true, but it was a delay nevertheless right? And the fact that problems are suddenly par for the course....doesnt really make it better or offers any excuse Its like if I mess up at work again and again and then I say to my director, but yeah you know by now that this is par for the course with me! Its mid 2020 now and we know the book is on US shores and they still refuse to give us any info, and that is the thing that frustrates people. Its not really hard to understand , is it? BTW why make excuses for them? First you say " well FW never officially gave a release date so you cant expect anything" and then when its pointed out to you that they did give a release date you say " yeah well that is outdated now and you cant expect anything" . Edited July 7, 2020 by Taliesin Noserenda and RedFurioso 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5556841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 To me what is annoying is they could just put the book out and let us start using the lore and artwork to build and paint our armies. I wouldn't mind if the Lion, the companions, etc. were delayed if just the book came out in the near term. RedFurioso and Brother dean 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5556930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 The support for HH has been really awful lately. GW really dropped the ball on us after inferno. RedFurioso and GorgeousGoat 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5557207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I think a release around 9th edition is extremely unlikely. GW is going to let the dust settle from that first. And the return of a monthly article on Warhammer Community suggests that it will probably be a little while still before we see it. Hopefully Road to Thramas is a little more interesting next time, though. Astartes Consul 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5557259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 So no idea as to when this will launch? RedFurioso 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5557442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 So no idea as to when this will launch? Soon ™ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5557478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 No man, you are deliberately misinterpreting what is being said. And maybe you dont want to understand, because as you say you werent aware of the previous issues. Summing up, it was reported by FW on events as coming out in 2019. That didnt happen. You can say that information is outdated now, yes that is true, but it was a delay nevertheless right? And the fact that problems are suddenly par for the course....doesnt really make it better or offers any excuse Its like if I mess up at work again and again and then I say to my director, but yeah you know by now that this is par for the course with me! Its mid 2020 now and we know the book is on US shores and they still refuse to give us any info, and that is the thing that frustrates people. Its not really hard to understand , is it? BTW why make excuses for them? First you say " well FW never officially gave a release date so you cant expect anything" and then when its pointed out to you that they did give a release date you say " yeah well that is outdated now and you cant expect anything" . I guess what I'm not getting is the frustration right now, specifically in response to Road to Thramas. People seem to have assumed that it would be a significant announcement or potentially release when there was no indication that that would be the case. It was pretty dissapointing, no doubt, and really could have been a filler article at any point over the last 2 months but people seem to have taken it as a slap in the face. I just don't understand why. These things just don't get to me like they do others though I guess. The 2020 date has been the official line since last year and that to me means any time up until December 31st. If they then come out and say it's gonna be 2021, then I will have to wait until 2021. Anyway, we have very different views on it and I will leave it alone. Let's all just hope we see it sooner rather than later. LupusAegis 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5557533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I guess what I'm not getting is the frustration right now, specifically in response to Road to Thramas. People seem to have assumed that it would be a significant announcement or potentially release when there was no indication that that would be the case. It was pretty dissapointing, no doubt, and really could have been a filler article at any point over the last 2 months but people seem to have taken it as a slap in the face. I just don't understand why. These things just don't get to me like they do others though I guess. The 2020 date has been the official line since last year and that to me means any time up until December 31st. If they then come out and say it's gonna be 2021, then I will have to wait until 2021. Anyway, we have very different views on it and I will leave it alone. Let's all just hope we see it sooner rather than later. The article is lazy and obvious filler. They could have done it any time over the past two months. They could have done articles on RoW rules, or unit rules, etc. All they needed to do was pop open their PDF version of the book and cover some of the content. It shouldn't be that hard. GorgeousGoat, Taliesin, RedFurioso and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5557572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 They could also have given us the exact same article and just included some mention of battles fought in the thramas campaign, alluded to some fluff or something like that AceofAllTradez, Silent Observant, Noserenda and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5557601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft0110 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) They could also have given us the exact same article and just included some mention of battles fought in the thramas campaign, alluded to some fluff or something like that Evidently. Vespasian sums it up succintly. Edited July 12, 2020 by Lovecraft0110 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5560789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Is there any official release date? Is 2020 even still likely? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5571955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Is there any official release date? Is 2020 even still likely? I have consulted the stars and entrails, they say "of course not" and "shrug" :D Nobody is going to know anything until Forgeworld starts releasing again, or rebrands, or whatever. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5571973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Is there any official release date? Is 2020 even still likely? I have consulted the stars and entrails, they say "of course not" and "shrug" Nobody is going to know anything until Forgeworld starts releasing again, or rebrands, or whatever. Hopefully they are waiting for the re-brand + integration into GW proper hopefully soon, then we will get a lovely tide of new stuff to test our wallet's might with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5572022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkwrath121 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) I'd say it's simply a matter of GW wanting the massive Indomitus/9th order rush behind them before launching book 9. With the made-to-order boxset presumably printing them money, and FW not producing currently (at least at any real capacity) likely due to capacity/COVID safety concerns. I bet that once that backlog clears, production/releases will pick up for the 'minor' systems again. Hopefully August/September, who knows. If we're lucky, next Monday's article will tell us a bit more than just what tanks do! Heh Edited July 27, 2020 by Darkwrath121 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5572054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) Thats what I'd expect as well. Of course there is a lot of People in HH who dont care for 8./9. but there is enough of an overlap for gw to limit their profit margin if the co release. Also we'll buy expensive Fprgeworld resin anyways since we all cant stand empty shelves P.s.: wishfeverdream: fw is becoming wh forge and everything will become cheap gw plastics Edited July 27, 2020 by Marshal Vespasian Lovecraft0110 and MegaVolt87 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5572059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Thats what I'd expect as well. Of course there is a lot of People in HH who dont care for 8./9. but there is enough of an overlap for gw to limit their profit margin if the co release. Also we'll buy expensive Fprgeworld resin anyways since we all cant stand empty shelves P.s.: wishfeverdream: fw is becoming wh forge and everything will become cheap gw plastics Shelves? Hahaha The stash must grow! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5572092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 The initial drop of 9e is done and over with, so hopefully that is out of their way now. I do think they try to coordinate their releases in some manner as to not exceed a 'budget' of sorts, so there is always something in the pipe someone will want. Since the heavy box release for 40k is over with, maybe now they can look at Book 9. Probably at least one paycheck between now and the book preorder date though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5572209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) snip P.s.: wishfeverdream: fw is becoming wh forge and everything will become cheap gw plastics There is that plastic Thunderhawk rumor again... I seriously doubt that much of anything will turn plastic. HH is 1st gen Marines and they seem to be getting out of the business of 1st gen.... Edit: I also expect the book to release in Sept or so. After the 9th settles down... Edited July 27, 2020 by Brother dean WrathOfTheLion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5572323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Nostraman Lizard Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 I'd say it's simply a matter of GW wanting the massive Indomitus/9th order rush behind them before launching book 9. With the made-to-order boxset presumably printing them money, and FW not producing currently (at least at any real capacity) likely due to capacity/COVID safety concerns. I bet that once that backlog clears, production/releases will pick up for the 'minor' systems again. Hopefully August/September, who knows. If we're lucky, next Monday's article will tell us a bit more than just what tanks do! Heh Something to note; the predator was out of stock for US two days ago, but today it's able to be purchased, so take of that what you will... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5572734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 I shudder to think of the "re-brand". Don't have much faith in GW to close out the HH black book series with quality Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5572863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft0110 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Thats what I'd expect as well. Of course there is a lot of People in HH who dont care for 8./9. I am one of those people... Hungry Nostraman Lizard and Brother dean 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5572949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Jeah me too. Models are dope but dont care for the system. Id rather do dark mech or white scars than anothern40k army. Especially since I still have some oldmarines for my templars knocking about Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5572979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 One potential benefit of Crusade taking so long is it shouldn’t be that much turn between this book and the Dark Mech boom rumored to come next. Crusade was at the Printers in what, January? Before that? Which means is already 7 months, almost 8 months into the next book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/363480-book-9-appears-to-be-on-us-soil/page/3/#findComment-5573013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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