Zephaniah Adriyen Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) Hiya, lads. I've been wondering - when is this Chaos Lord sculpt from? I've got one as part of my "all old" Death Guard army, alongside some Plague Marines (all 3E or older) and a Finecast Typhus. Mine's in metal specifically. Note that this image is not mine, but my phone is far from cooperative. It's the same sculpt, however. Edit: Answer was found - after Fulkes' research and cross-referencing with the thing I didn't think to do - i.e. look at Lexicanum for five seconds - he's a 3E metal Chaos Lord. Edited June 6, 2020 by Zephaniah Adriyen Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 If it's not based, the year is typically on the metal tab on the bottom. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5536377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Looks like a metal Chaos Lord which I'm guessing dates back to 3rd edition. Found one as an eBay listing: Zephaniah Adriyen 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5536378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephaniah Adriyen Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 If it's not based, the year is typically on the metal tab on the bottom. Alas, he's based and finished, meaning I can't check for myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5536379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Did some more looking and found him in 3rd ed style blisters, so he's at least that old. I don't think he's from 2nd though as the model style was a bit different back then. Zephaniah Adriyen 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5536380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephaniah Adriyen Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 Did some more looking and found him in 3rd ed style blisters, so he's at least that old. I don't think he's from 2nd though as the model style was a bit different back then. Thank you, sir, that's all I needed. BitsHammer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5536382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Did some more looking and found him in 3rd ed style blisters, so he's at least that old. I don't think he's from 2nd though as the model style was a bit different back then. Thank you, sir, that's all I needed. Happy to put my Googlefu to good use! Zephaniah Adriyen 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5536383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal_warrior12 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 What’s most interesting is that there was a fantasy version of him. He just had two axes instead of a plasma pistol. I thought it was a cool crossover. BitsHammer and Zephaniah Adriyen 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5536393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxichobbit Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Fulkes is right, he's from 3rd. He came out arounds the same time as the second Chaos Codex of that edition, if I remember correctly. He's pictured in that Codex. BitsHammer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5536396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawl Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 My first White Dwarf (April '99) featured this Kassill, VanDutch, Warhead01 and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5536481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 3rd ed chaos lord, release date of 1999 or so. BitsHammer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5536499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxichobbit Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Ok, so way before the second 3rd ed Chaos Codex. If he's '99 he probably came out with the first 3rd ed Chaos Codex. BitsHammer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5536616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 That's a fun throwback article for sure Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5536754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawl Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 That's a fun throwback article for sure Not sure how legal it is, but I found a link with pdf scans of loads of old issues. There's a few missing, and it jumps from UK to US, but it was really cool being able to go through issues I've not read in a decade or more. Still have all my old WD's from when I was younger, but I can't get to them at the minute. If it's considered okay I'll post the link. Kassill 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5536777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 If it's considered okay I'll post the link.It's not okay. Kassill and battle captain corpus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5536782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawl Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 If it's considered okay I'll post the link.It's not okay. I assumed that would be the case, yeah. Never hurts to ask though. =] Kassill 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5536784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Ok, so way before the second 3rd ed Chaos Codex. If he's '99 he probably came out with the first 3rd ed Chaos Codex. He isn't in the codex itself. 3rd ed didn't release everything in proper waves. First 3rd ed codex only had one model release with it, the original obliterators, but came very closely after the plastic chaos bikers and near the release of original Cypher. Everything else in it was a fantasy daemon model or part of the 2nd ed studio army or conversions from the 2nd ed era. I'd guess he came out close to the Jes Goodwin plastic chaos marines which were also in between 3rd ed codexes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5536890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 I know that Chaos Lord. But I dont know if he was released in 3rd Edition or back in 2nd Edition. He was a common model on the tables back then in 3rd Edition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5536910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Cone on guys. He wasn't in the 3rd ed codex because he was released after. The 3.0 chaos codex is mainly conversions and old metal csm. This guy was released within 6 months of the chaos 3.0 codex, which was early 1999. When I started with the hobby. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5537017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Cone on guys. He wasn't in the 3rd ed codex because he was released after. The 3.0 chaos codex is mainly conversions and old metal csm. This guy was released within 6 months of the chaos 3.0 codex, which was early 1999. When I started with the hobby. I think the inital one had like a gun hand with a melta barrel or something? Fist holding a SM helmet/ rock? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5537888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainFireBob Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) That was way later. Like 4th ed later. This is the original. 3rd ed. Have a nicely painted one with jump pack. My first time with painting fur. Edited June 9, 2020 by BrainFireBob Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5537894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreaterChickenofTzeentch Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 That was way later. Like 4th ed later. This is the original. 3rd ed. Have a nicely painted one with jump pack. My first time with painting fur. Yep. I have multiples from when I started up around 1999. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5538431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Wow. I remember him. What memories. I had several copies as he was one of the easiest to swap an arm out. (Metal was such a pain to deal with back then.) I made a nurgle version where I green stuffed tentacles where the plasma pistol should be. (It looked horrible.) The rest of min were Iron Warrior variants... until the metal Iron Warrior Warsmith came out. It really takes you back. Without the best of glues, stuff would just fall apart randomly over time in transit. It really was a pain working on these models but now I realize that's the golden era. Man I feel old. MegaVolt87 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5539606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Starscream Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 That guy's from 3rd edition. They would come out with a very similar model a few years later (Head and arm swaps IIRC) in 4th edition. I have one, used it as my Dark Apostle for years. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5540317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I got one of those in a box somewhere...I was thinking about doing a new version of him with all the awesome plastics we got now because he's quite small by today's standards. :) Zephaniah Adriyen 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364365-can-anyone-tell-me-when-this-sculpts-from/#findComment-5543061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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