The Saint Ragnar Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 They haven't said they are re-doing the supplements. Those are staying the same, I'd be surprised to see them getting released again before all the new ones drop or any other faction gets their Codex. I personally am hoping we have the codex for Necrons and Space Marines drop early October with the first set of supplements at the end and second set early November. That way we can get rolling with seeing other Codex drops to try and combat power creep this edition. We will have to wait and see what Saturday brings Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5597668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Hopefully we have a better ideal of the timeline after Saturday's preview. I'm fairly confident that the supplements will be released fast because they're all really popular armies and they'll want us spending over the holidays. Iain_Stormeyes and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5597791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgersinHills Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Question about melta, do we know if all meltas are getting the 3+d3 damage? I've been looking at the sheets from the boxes and they have D6 damage, a little confused. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5597794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 It should be within half range d6 + 2 if I remember the community article right. The data sheets that come with the kits don't have special rules on them (no profile for over heating plasma for example). So hopefully that question gets answered by the preview as well. BadgersinHills 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5597801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Yeah, besides being a mess, the box ones lack true info. Put 0 stock in any of them really, between differences in weapons between sheets and a lack of special rules they border on useless BadgersinHills 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5597806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Question about melta, do we know if all meltas are getting the 3+d3 damage? I've been looking at the sheets from the boxes and they have D6 damage, a little confused. It's not clear at the moment. Some of the Devs have said that there are errors on some of the sheets from the boxes but have not specified which ones. The Melta Rifles on the Eradicators get the old melta rule (highest of 2D6 within half range). Possibly the new D6+2 is just for Multimeltas.  We will have to wait until the new codex drops before we know for sure. As with things like Stormshields, I suspect GW don't want changes applied retroactively. They would rather have 2 different versions of Stormshields temporarily than port the new rules to old units without the accompanying points changes to balance them.  My advice is not to build stuff with flexible loadouts for the next 6 weeks unless you are handy with magnets. Wait for the codex to drop and save yourself the annoyance factor. I wish I had seen the new Multimelta rules before I glued my Stormfang together.  Still, at least Heavy Bolters got a buff too. BadgersinHills and Lord Ragnarok 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5597810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgersinHills Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Thanks everyone, I knew the Eradicators had the old melta rule but the multi melta had 2 + d6 ( Confused the damage for 3+d3) , and the GW announcement that all melta would get 2 +d6 didn't help. Ah well, I've got enough Wolf Guard and Blood Claws and Assault Intercessors to last me until Wolftime (Or until the SM codex comes). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5597842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Wolf Priest on bike Charges Mantra of Strength Saga of the Wolfkin Master crafted weapon  A9 S7 AP-1 D4  Touch of the wild for 4.5 extra hits Seeking a saga to maybe reroll wounds  Would include being with 3 of a warlord with Wulfen stone but thatd be getting silly :) Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5597882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Two Wolf Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 The power almost any of our characters has now is high indeed. The key strats that explode 4's and reroll wounds make a few obnoxiously good, Ragnar comes to mind. I've just primed Ulrik and I'm half into building him a personal razorback babysitter; an extra litany and a double (read it carefully) chance of +1 to wound bubble. He's just a priest, albeit a badass one, but he can turn into a brutal dreadnoughtesque destroyer who can one shot a knight. Things looking up? Awooooooo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5598227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 That Ulrik can chant 2 litanies which is super powerful especially combined with Sà ga of Majesty, think his leadership aura gets extended to 12 too  Biker priest gets the added benefit of bigger base size for the aura radius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5598251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Two Wolf Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 The unique wound buff ulrik has (slayers oath) does not wait for another phase to take effect either; use the beast slayer +1 on him as a WL trait to get it off and then it's party time. I've actually replaced bjorn with him at this stage... Only three hqs make this scheming hard indeed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5598496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) Hoo boy, looking up indeed. Just had my first game of 9th and Allfather....savage fury is no joke. I beat some nasty khorne boys at their own game...handily. The amount of exploding attacks off Touch of the wild and fury on a Twolf lord almost one shot a bloodthirster solo...  Im both so happy and angry we could have ad this for like a year now. Edited September 10, 2020 by PeteySödes QuarterPounder, TiguriusX, Filius and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5598601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Two Wolf Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 AWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5598718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 So all, are things looking up to you? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5600179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I'm certainly not sad lol. But I want the supplement in hand (or heavily leaked) to confirm lore is still good before I will know for sure. Crunch wise though I'm feeling quite positive about Filius 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5600198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) i am encouraged after 3 editions of recycled codexes. i expect new lore and badges for the new wolf lords and their great companies and hopefully finally some lore on the Wolf Spear. Edited September 12, 2020 by Wispy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5600380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgersinHills Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) Glad I built my Indomitus leader with a thunder hammer. Looking forward to the supplement. :)Â Edited September 13, 2020 by BadgersinHills Karhedron and spacewolflars 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5600543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) Watching latest Auspex Tactics vid... Â Space Wolves have made up 7% of top ten tournament finishes in 9th, which is 4th overall behind marines, quinns, custodes Edited September 23, 2020 by Dark Shepherd Karhedron and Filius 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5606236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Surprised to see Quins and Custodes in the Top 4. Interesting times.... Filius and TiguriusX 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5606394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Watching latest Auspex Tactics vid... Â Space Wolves have made up 7% of top ten tournament finishes in 9th, which is 4th overall behind marines, quinns, custodes Does that include the objective secured era of 9th? I'm happy to see the results either way but I do think that with the volume of tournaments being down we should expect outliers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5606402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) Surprised to see Quins and Custodes in the Top 4. Interesting times....Quinn are excellent at point denial. They can kill you and then escape to safety. This means you getting few if any primary points while attrition weakens your army. Then they strike and you have been bled dry and can't stop them so they get max primary for the final 2 turns or so and win. Unless you are a SW...we counter their tricks pretty hard  Custodes being all obsec is a PITA to face and gives them primary point advantages as well.  Both can make excellent armies for whack a mole that 9th encourages Edited September 23, 2020 by TiguriusX Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5606404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Quinns have been regulars in the top 4 of the bigger tournaments  Does include the small window of all obsec yes, still rosier than 8th though :)  2 wound Blood Claws and 3 wound WGT should help us further Karhedron and Filius 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5606540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I am think Grey Hunters will be in contention for best all-round Troop choice in the game. 18 points gets 2W T4, bolter and 3A at AP-1 in the first round of combat. That is in the Devastator Doctrine. Once you go into the Tactical or Assault Doctrines they get better! Â Add to that they can ride in cheap(ish) Pods, Rhinos or Razorbacks. They can double-down on plasma or melta (or triple-down if you run 10-man including WGPL). I am tempted to say that point-for-point, Grey Hunters could be one of the strongest mid-field units in the game. Filius 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5606551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Yeah since the 2 wound bump announcement I've been stoked to bring back my hunters in rhinos and pods Karhedron and Filius 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5606553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Im thinking blood claws with 2 power fists to deal with these 2 and 3 wound astartes :) Â Non primaris transports could be making a comeback Filius 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365884-things-are-looking-up/page/6/#findComment-5606559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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