Fatbudda Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I've got a game coming up against a reasonably competitive player next week and I'm having trouble deciding which of these three lifts to run if people would be able to help me decide/improve them. List one: ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Blood Angels) [110 PL, 11CP, 1,999pts] ++ + Configuration + **CHAPTER**: Blood Angels Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment CP Gametype: Matched + Stratagems + Armoury of Baal [-1CP]: 1 Additional Relic + HQ + Astorath: 3. Soulwarden, 4. Mantra of Strength, 6. Canticle of Hate, Invocation of Destruction, Warlord Sanguinary Priest: Bolt pistol, Chainsword, Icon of The Angel, Jump Pack The Sanguinor + Troops + Incursor Squad: Incursor Sergeant . 4x Incursor Intercessor Squad: Auto Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Thunder hammer Intercessor Squad: Auto Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Thunder hammer Intercessor Squad: Auto Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Thunder hammer + Elites + Judiciar Sanguinary Ancient: Angelus boltgun, Death mask, Encarmine sword, Standard of Sacrifice Sanguinary Guard (x8) . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist Sanguinary Guard (x8) . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist + Fast Attack + Inceptor Squad: Assault bolter x2, 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant Outrider Squad: Outrider Sgt . 2x Outrider + Heavy Support + Eradicator Squad [5 PL, 120pts]: Eradicator Sgt . 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Melta rifle Eradicator Squad [5 PL, 120pts]: Eradicator Sgt . 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Melta rifle ++ Total: [110 PL, 11CP, 1,999pts] ++ List two: ++ Battalion Detachment -3CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Blood Angels) [114 PL, 7CP, 2,000pts] ++ + Configuration + **CHAPTER**: Blood Angels Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment CP [-3CP] Gametype: Matched + Stratagems + Armoury of Baal [-1CP]: 1 Additional Relic + HQ + Astorath [8 PL, 110pts]: 4. Mantra of Strength, 6. Canticle of Hate, Invocation of Destruction Librarian Dreadnought [8 PL, -1CP, 150pts]: 1. Quickening, 2. Artisan of War, 6. Wings of Sanguinus, Biomantic Sarcophagus, Furioso fist, Meltagun, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter Sanguinary Priest [6 PL, 90pts]: Bolt pistol, Chainsword, Jump Pack + Troops + Incursor Squad [5 PL, 105pts]: Incursor Sergeant . 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired Combat Blades, 4x Smoke Grenades Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 100pts]: Auto Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 115pts]: Auto Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Thunder hammer Scout Squad [4 PL, 70pts] . Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun . 4x Scout w/Boltgun: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades Tactical Squad [5 PL, 75pts] . 4x Space Marine: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Space Marine Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword Tactical Squad [5 PL, 75pts] . 4x Space Marine: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Space Marine Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword + Elites + Judiciar [4 PL, 85pts] Sanguinary Ancient [7 PL, 85pts]: Angelus boltgun, Death mask, Encarmine sword, Standard of Sacrifice Sanguinary Guard [17 PL, 272pts]: Death mask . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist Sanguinary Guard [17 PL, 272pts]: Death mask . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist + Heavy Support + Eradicator Squad [5 PL, 120pts]: Eradicator Sgt . 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Melta rifle Eradicator Squad [5 PL, 120pts]: Eradicator Sgt . 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Melta rifle + Dedicated Transport + Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Storm bolter Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Storm bolter ++ Total: [114 PL, 7CP, 2,000pts] ++ List three: ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Blood Angels) [107 PL, 10CP, 2,000pts] ++ + Configuration + **CHAPTER**: Blood Angels Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment CP Gametype: Matched + Stratagems + Armoury of Baal [-1CP]: 1 Additional Relic + HQ + Astorath [8 PL, 110pts]: 4. Mantra of Strength, 6. Canticle of Hate, Invocation of Destruction Librarian Dreadnought [8 PL, -1CP, 150pts]: 1. Quickening, 2. Artisan of War, 6. Wings of Sanguinus, Biomantic Sarcophagus, Furioso fist, Meltagun, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter The Sanguinor [9 PL, 140pts]: 4. Heroic Bearing, Warlord + Troops + Incursor Squad [5 PL, 105pts]: Incursor Sergeant . 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired Combat Blades, 4x Smoke Grenades Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 115pts]: Auto Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Thunder hammer Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 115pts]: Auto Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Thunder hammer Scout Squad [4 PL, 70pts] . Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun . 4x Scout w/Boltgun: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades Tactical Squad [5 PL, 95pts] . 3x Space Marine: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades . Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Combi-plasma . Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun Tactical Squad [5 PL, 95pts] . 3x Space Marine: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades . Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Combi-plasma . Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun + Elites + Dreadnought [7 PL, 133pts]: Twin lascannon . Dreadnought combat weapon w/Storm Bolter: Storm bolter Judiciar [4 PL, 85pts] Sanguinary Ancient [7 PL, 85pts]: Angelus boltgun, Death mask, Encarmine sword, Standard of Sacrifice Sanguinary Guard [17 PL, 306pts]: Death mask . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist . Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist + Heavy Support + Eradicator Squad [5 PL, 120pts]: Eradicator Sgt . 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Melta rifle Eradicator Squad [5 PL, 120pts]: Eradicator Sgt . 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Melta rifle + Dedicated Transport + Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Storm bolter Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Storm bolter ++ Total: [107 PL, 10CP, 2,000pts] ++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I like the look of the first list as it is fast and hard hitting. I also like the multiple fast, multi-wound units that could potentially be healed up by the Priest. My only query is the presence of the Judiciar. Is he just there to make sure the Intercessor Sergeants get to swing their hammers if the squad gets charged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatbudda Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 I like the look of the first list as it is fast and hard hitting. I also like the multiple fast, multi-wound units that could potentially be healed up by the Priest. My only query is the presence of the Judiciar. Is he just there to make sure the Intercessor Sergeants get to swing their hammers if the squad gets charged? Cheers for the response, any changes you'd recommend? Initially that was the plan but he also really helps as a deterant for combat units trying to charge my Sanguinary guard if the centre of the board gets congested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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