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Blood Angels - help me pick a list!


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I've got a game coming up against a reasonably competitive player next week and I'm having trouble deciding which of these three lifts to run if people would be able to help me decide/improve them.

 

 

List one:

 

++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Blood Angels) [110 PL, 11CP, 1,999pts] ++

 

+ Configuration +

 

**CHAPTER**: Blood Angels

 

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

 

Detachment CP

 

Gametype: Matched

 

+ Stratagems +

 

Armoury of Baal [-1CP]: 1 Additional Relic

 

+ HQ +

 

Astorath: 3. Soulwarden, 4. Mantra of Strength, 6. Canticle of Hate, Invocation of Destruction, Warlord

 

Sanguinary Priest: Bolt pistol, Chainsword, Icon of The Angel, Jump Pack

 

The Sanguinor

 

+ Troops +

 

Incursor Squad: Incursor Sergeant

. 4x Incursor

 

Intercessor Squad: Auto Bolt Rifle

. 4x Intercessor

. Intercessor Sergeant: Thunder hammer

 

Intercessor Squad: Auto Bolt Rifle

. 4x Intercessor

. Intercessor Sergeant: Thunder hammer

 

Intercessor Squad: Auto Bolt Rifle

. 4x Intercessor

. Intercessor Sergeant: Thunder hammer

 

+ Elites +

 

Judiciar

 

Sanguinary Ancient: Angelus boltgun, Death mask, Encarmine sword, Standard of Sacrifice

 

Sanguinary Guard (x8)

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist

 

Sanguinary Guard (x8)

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist

 

+ Fast Attack +

 

Inceptor Squad: Assault bolter x2, 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant

 

Outrider Squad: Outrider Sgt

. 2x Outrider

 

+ Heavy Support +

 

Eradicator Squad [5 PL, 120pts]: Eradicator Sgt

. 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Melta rifle

 

Eradicator Squad [5 PL, 120pts]: Eradicator Sgt

. 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Melta rifle

 

++ Total: [110 PL, 11CP, 1,999pts] ++

 

 

 

 

List two:

 

++ Battalion Detachment -3CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Blood Angels) [114 PL, 7CP, 2,000pts] ++

 

+ Configuration +

 

**CHAPTER**: Blood Angels

 

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

 

Detachment CP [-3CP]

 

Gametype: Matched

 

+ Stratagems +

 

Armoury of Baal [-1CP]: 1 Additional Relic

 

+ HQ +

 

Astorath [8 PL, 110pts]: 4. Mantra of Strength, 6. Canticle of Hate, Invocation of Destruction

 

Librarian Dreadnought [8 PL, -1CP, 150pts]: 1. Quickening, 2. Artisan of War, 6. Wings of Sanguinus, Biomantic Sarcophagus, Furioso fist, Meltagun, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter

 

Sanguinary Priest [6 PL, 90pts]: Bolt pistol, Chainsword, Jump Pack

 

+ Troops +

 

Incursor Squad [5 PL, 105pts]: Incursor Sergeant

. 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired Combat Blades, 4x Smoke Grenades

 

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 100pts]: Auto Bolt Rifle

. 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades

. Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword

 

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 115pts]: Auto Bolt Rifle

. 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades

. Intercessor Sergeant: Thunder hammer

 

Scout Squad [4 PL, 70pts]

. Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

. 4x Scout w/Boltgun: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades

 

Tactical Squad [5 PL, 75pts]

. 4x Space Marine: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades

. Space Marine Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword

 

Tactical Squad [5 PL, 75pts]

. 4x Space Marine: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades

. Space Marine Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword

 

+ Elites +

 

Judiciar [4 PL, 85pts]

 

Sanguinary Ancient [7 PL, 85pts]: Angelus boltgun, Death mask, Encarmine sword, Standard of Sacrifice

 

Sanguinary Guard [17 PL, 272pts]: Death mask

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist

 

Sanguinary Guard [17 PL, 272pts]: Death mask

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist

 

+ Heavy Support +

 

Eradicator Squad [5 PL, 120pts]: Eradicator Sgt

. 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Melta rifle

 

Eradicator Squad [5 PL, 120pts]: Eradicator Sgt

. 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Melta rifle

 

+ Dedicated Transport +

 

Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Storm bolter

 

Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Storm bolter

 

++ Total: [114 PL, 7CP, 2,000pts] ++

 

 

 

 

 

List three:

 

 

++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Blood Angels) [107 PL, 10CP, 2,000pts] ++

 

+ Configuration +

 

**CHAPTER**: Blood Angels

 

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

 

Detachment CP

 

Gametype: Matched

 

+ Stratagems +

 

Armoury of Baal [-1CP]: 1 Additional Relic

 

+ HQ +

 

Astorath [8 PL, 110pts]: 4. Mantra of Strength, 6. Canticle of Hate, Invocation of Destruction

 

Librarian Dreadnought [8 PL, -1CP, 150pts]: 1. Quickening, 2. Artisan of War, 6. Wings of Sanguinus, Biomantic Sarcophagus, Furioso fist, Meltagun, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter

 

The Sanguinor [9 PL, 140pts]: 4. Heroic Bearing, Warlord

 

+ Troops +

 

Incursor Squad [5 PL, 105pts]: Incursor Sergeant

. 4x Incursor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired Combat Blades, 4x Smoke Grenades

 

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 115pts]: Auto Bolt Rifle

. 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades

. Intercessor Sergeant: Thunder hammer

 

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 115pts]: Auto Bolt Rifle

. 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades

. Intercessor Sergeant: Thunder hammer

 

Scout Squad [4 PL, 70pts]

. Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

. 4x Scout w/Boltgun: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades

 

Tactical Squad [5 PL, 95pts]

. 3x Space Marine: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades

. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Combi-plasma

. Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun

 

Tactical Squad [5 PL, 95pts]

. 3x Space Marine: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades

. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Combi-plasma

. Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun

 

+ Elites +

 

Dreadnought [7 PL, 133pts]: Twin lascannon

. Dreadnought combat weapon w/Storm Bolter: Storm bolter

 

Judiciar [4 PL, 85pts]

 

Sanguinary Ancient [7 PL, 85pts]: Angelus boltgun, Death mask, Encarmine sword, Standard of Sacrifice

 

Sanguinary Guard [17 PL, 306pts]: Death mask

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist

. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist

 

+ Heavy Support +

 

Eradicator Squad [5 PL, 120pts]: Eradicator Sgt

. 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Melta rifle

 

Eradicator Squad [5 PL, 120pts]: Eradicator Sgt

. 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Melta rifle

 

+ Dedicated Transport +

 

Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Storm bolter

 

Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Storm bolter

 

++ Total: [107 PL, 10CP, 2,000pts] ++

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I like the look of the first list as it is fast and hard hitting. I also like the multiple fast, multi-wound units that could potentially be healed up by the Priest.

 

My only query is the presence of the Judiciar. Is he just there to make sure the Intercessor Sergeants get to swing their hammers if the squad gets charged?

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I like the look of the first list as it is fast and hard hitting. I also like the multiple fast, multi-wound units that could potentially be healed up by the Priest.

 

My only query is the presence of the Judiciar. Is he just there to make sure the Intercessor Sergeants get to swing their hammers if the squad gets charged?

Cheers for the response, any changes you'd recommend? Initially that was the plan but he also really helps as a deterant for combat units trying to charge my Sanguinary guard if the centre of the board gets congested.

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