Krakendoomcool Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) Hello fellow frater, My hobby butterfly is in overdrive again and sweeping me up into the world of Mantis Warrior space marines. On the surface I love the colour scheme. But recently I'd seen some inspiring artwork that set me on this path. @Wolfdawgart on twitter has done a few pictures of Mantis Warriors (amongst other things!) that really struck a cord. They just seemed to suit the phobos armour so well and really made sense of the whole Vanguard Space Marine release for me. Before that I had avoided them and actually Primaris marines altogether. Here is a pic of his alongside a Marine I made to see if I could do a little homage... I also built and painted a test model to see what that might be like. I even got the airbrush out of it's decade of stasis. I got a real sense I wanted a jungle setting for these and a real Predator vibe. Maybe some striking scorpion influence, or was that just the colours talking. Some of you will have seen this guy already from my other thread. I had a go at the markings on the helmet from the artwork here. I was then having Ideas for the different types of units I might include in the army. My friends IRL are doing a crusdae for 9th so I'll be trying to get 25PL together. I've put some models together to test out ideas for various units. It's a lot of test models at this point. I put together this reiver to try to get that Praying Mantis insect feel. This is another infiltrator, tried to get a bit of predator influence in this one. Bladeguard Veteran idea, using Phobos armour and with original Mantis ninja influence but also an insectoid shield in this context. I was thinking now that I might go full Phobos armour even for units (like the bladeguard that aren't). I then looked at the Gravis statline and had an idea. I was thinking about the Mantis Warriors being Renegades and decimated by the attacks of the Carcharadons. They would need new recuits and bionics. They are limited/punished to have small numbers. I was thinking a desperation to earn lost honour and re-establish themselves in the imperium. So crossing the Rubicon, Bionics, new recruits from varied sources and even full on robots might be on the cards for them. So here is an idea for an Eradicator, it's just a head swap currently to get an idea... I've since been working on an incursor unit taking the ninja, robot and insect ideas further... Migs of Iron sleet (Migsula on insta) did AMAZING blood angel scouts using phobos armour and admech backpacks. They were a huge influence on these Incursors! So it's been a lot of experimenting and fiddly faffing about. But I feel I've got some ideas to work with here and look forward to getting more painted and also getting stuck into some of these ideas for the various units. Please let me know what you think. KDC Edited May 21, 2021 by Krakendoomcool Galloway, Naryn, Brother Tyler and 17 others 20 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Fantastic stuff, you've some great conversions here. I especially like the Eradicator and the Bladeguard. Krakendoomcool 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5609822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Your conversions make the Primaris Mantis Warriors look inhuman, insectile, and creepy as hell- sure to intimidate many potential enemies to desert, instead of facing the Marines in battle. Excellent works. Krakendoomcool 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5609876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosef Hausakluif Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) Seconded what others have said; love the creepy insectoid robot bionic vibe of your Mantis Warriors. Def a cool new fresh take on them. Maybe use some plasti rods and pieces or bits to ‘thicken’ up some of the ad mech limbs, as a little spindly for Primaris. But at same time one leg on marine reminds of a modern carbon fiber running prosthetic; so once paints applied; may look right on too for the effect you’re trying to achieve. Look forward to more!. Edited October 2, 2020 by Yosef Hausakluif Krakendoomcool 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5610217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakendoomcool Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 @ Doghouse Thank you very much. I'm particularly looking forward to figuring out those units and how to do them. @ Bjorn Firewalker Thank you buddy. I'm really glad that comes across, that is really what I was aiming for. @ Yosef Hausakluiff Thank you. I did consider building bionics from plasticard pipe etc but want to have quite a few in the army so was searching for a faster way. Also looking for a unique look and taking the insect angle as an excuse to have some thin and different bionics. After a bit more fiddling with them I've finished the build on the Incursor squad and I've just undercoated them. So hopefully get them painted and finished soon. Decided to go for the funny little cameras on the backpacks in the end. Hope to have more updated soon. Thousand Eyes, Sagentus, RolandTHTG and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5612482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naryn Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Love these guys, and stoked to see someone else doing Mantis Warriors! Absolutely adore that Eradicator conversion especially, that head is perfect! Krakendoomcool 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5612487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakendoomcool Posted December 18, 2020 Author Share Posted December 18, 2020 @ Naryn Thank you! There doesn't seem to be too many Mantis Warriors around. I'm taking license with the fact the used to be Renegades to have some fun and go non codex as much as I like. I've been doing other things but I'm back on the Mantis Warriors now. I'm partially through the squad, trying to figure out how to paint them... I was particularly pleased with how this guy came out. That Admech leg seems to work just fine. The fact it's quite a thin leg for a Marine makes it look more like a real life prosthetic limb. I hope to get the rest of the squad finished off and move onto the Blagegaurd who have progressed slightly on teh model side. ST.Lazarus, Biohazard, Dr_Ruminahui and 12 others 15 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5645789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Excellent works. Krakendoomcool 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5645879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 The bonereaper parts were a great idea for a bug-themed carapace shield. Krakendoomcool 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5645889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Carpenter Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Very nice marines. Krakendoomcool 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5645985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Really digging these guys. I think your basing really sells the feeling you are trying to convey. I really imagine them stalking through the jungles. Krakendoomcool 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5646038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakendoomcool Posted December 26, 2020 Author Share Posted December 26, 2020 @ Bjorn Firewalker Thank you buddy. @ jaxom Yes that is exactly what I was thinking. Although now I need to stop myself looking at those Van Saar energy shields which would work too. @ Brother Carpenter Thank you. Hopefully different enough for interest. @ space wolf Thank you, that is exactly what I wanted. A bit of that Predator (film)/Striking Scorpion feel. I've painted a couple more of these guys so just the sergeant to go. After having the first guy come out with a very flat green (in the photo not IRL) I had a play around on Insta's edit for these photos. Galloway, RolandTHTG, Dr_Ruminahui and 6 others 9 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5648146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Excellent works. Krakendoomcool 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5648209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow2z Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Love the conversions! Excellent work. Krakendoomcool 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5649011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majkhel Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Wow, that is something else! Excellent theme and feel for an army! Great builds and very nicely painted too.Loving the extra stripes and markings. Have you looked at at Knights/AdMech decals? They got some great little markings perfect for tech-feel.The only thing I'm missing are proper space-mariney shoulder pads ;) Krakendoomcool 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5649028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Awesome stuff., Love the painting style Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5649370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakendoomcool Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 @ Bjorn Firewalker Thank you buddy. @ sparrow2z Thank you, wanted to make them a bit different. @ Majkel That sounds like an excellent plan. I'll look into those decals. I've used decals on these for the mantis chapter badge. This is the first time I've used them for about 20 years! @ Triszin Thank you buddy. I'm pretty new to battle damage so I'm happy it seems to be working. I've finished the sergeant. So the first unit is now complete. The project has officially started and it's not just me faffing about anymore. This is the first Primaris Marines unit I've done and the first unit of Mantis Warriors. Hopefully I'll be able to crack on with the others. Givemead, ST.Lazarus, RolandTHTG and 9 others 12 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5650895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbringer Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Great look stuff mate, really good. Looking forward to you getting the rest of these done and getting them on the table at some point in the future. Krakendoomcool 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5650903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Again, I'm impressed how BADASS you made the Primaris Mantis Warriors look. They really went from zeros (consequences of fighting for the wrong side in the Badab War) to heroes (results of your efforts). Krakendoomcool 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5650979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakendoomcool Posted January 14, 2021 Author Share Posted January 14, 2021 @ Warbringer Thank you buddy. I'm super slow but I might actually get this 25PL done by the time restrictions are lifted. Then we can have a game! @ Bjorn Firewalker Thank you so much! You've pretty much summed up my goals for the project. I do feel like there is room to build them back up after their history at Badab. Wasn't sure which unit to do next. Then started messing around with the Bladeguard Veterans. My main issue was what to do with the actual teeth protruding from the shields I was using. Had a few ideas. Decided to actually google a Praying Mantis for inspiration... Looking at various parts of the Mantis and looking at my shield to see what I could do... I was considering trying to make the top look like a beetle or shield bug. Thought I should go more specific and try to aim for a Praying Mantis head. The funny hip bones I thought I could use as eyes with some greenstuff. Out of the 3 shields this one actually has a mouth already on it. I saw that after the eyes idea and couldn't believe my luck. The other 2 shields don't but I think I'll greenstuff some on. So that's the shield and the first guy pretty much there for the Bladeguard Veterans... Let me know what you think. Really wasn't sure while I was doing it whether it was silly. But hopefully it's more characterful. Warbringer, RolandTHTG, ShotgunFacelift and 7 others 10 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5653926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbringer Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 @ Warbringer Thank you buddy. I'm super slow but I might actually get this 25PL done by the time restrictions are lifted. Then we can have a game! @ Bjorn Firewalker Thank you so much! You've pretty much summed up my goals for the project. I do feel like there is room to build them back up after their history at Badab. Wasn't sure which unit to do next. Then started messing around with the Bladeguard Veterans. My main issue was what to do with the actual teeth protruding from the shields I was using. Had a few ideas. Decided to actually google a Praying Mantis for inspiration... Looking at various parts of the Mantis and looking at my shield to see what I could do... I was considering trying to make the top look like a beetle or shield bug. Thought I should go more specific and try to aim for a Praying Mantis head. The funny hip bones I thought I could use as eyes with some greenstuff. Out of the 3 shields this one actually has a mouth already on it. I saw that after the eyes idea and couldn't believe my luck. The other 2 shields don't but I think I'll greenstuff some on. So that's the shield and the first guy pretty much there for the Bladeguard Veterans... Let me know what you think. Really wasn't sure while I was doing it whether it was silly. But hopefully it's more characterful. Looking great I'm looking forward to a game against them too :) Krakendoomcool 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5654071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HvitrValdyr Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I love the shield, I think it adds the right amount of flavor. Krakendoomcool 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5654321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) These look amazing, well done! Can I ask what shade green you're using? The yellow stripes on it are perfect. Edited January 18, 2021 by Xenith Krakendoomcool 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5655119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakendoomcool Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) @ Warbringer The latest lockdown seems to have given me ample time to mess about with these and get them ready for the first game. @ HvitrValdyr Thank you buddy. Want to convey Mantis Warriors without getting too silly. @ Xenith Thank you. This is a timely reminder for me to remember what paints I used. For the test model I think it was: Waaagh! Flesh, Biel-Tan Green, Warboss Green and Skarsnik Green. Thin Agrax shade on there too. For the latest squad: Waaagh! Flesh, Warboss Green, Skarsnik Green, Biel-Tan and then Nurgling Flesh. Moving the Biel-Tan closer to the end seemed to give a much brighter green colour. Someone has told me Bladeguard are supposed to be on 40mm bases. So I've switched those in. Done a bit of adding skulls and trinkets. The Sergeant has two swords and the shield on his back. Not channeling Leonardo from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or anything... Here's the 3... Decided to add straps to the skulls eye sockets or across the tops of them to convey how they are kept up there. Pretty much there with these. Although I stil might give someone a bionic leg. Thinking the back leg on the guy on the right. Edited January 21, 2021 by Krakendoomcool Azekai, Warbringer, HvitrValdyr and 7 others 10 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5656790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War of the Eagle Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Really looking forward to seeing a force all together of these guys. So much charicter. Trying to add more charicter to my Raptors because of your guys. Krakendoomcool 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366766-mantis-warriors-praying-for-redemption/#findComment-5656795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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