Stupidity Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) I'm planning what to buy and want to make sure this stratagem is useful. Prismatic Dimensional Breach: Use this strategem in the reinforcement step of your movement phase. Select one <core> unit from your reserve then select one <dynasty> Night Scythe or Monolith model that is on the battlefield. Set up that <core> unit anywhere on the battlefield that is wholly within 3" of that Monolith or Night Scythe model and not within Engagement Range of any enemy units. This strategem cannot be used turn one. So, can this be used on Monoliths and Night Scythes that have come in from reserve this turn? The way I read it, they can. It doesn't say to use at the start of the reinforcement step or that the target unit must not have moved but I just started collecting so... As a Mephrit player, I do believe deep striking a Night Scythe with 10 S7 Ap-1 Tesla Cannon shots T2 then having it drop off twenty Warriors with ap-3 within 7.5" Gauss Reapers about 6 inches away from an enemy could be a legitimate strategy. Add exploding, auto wounding or mortal wounding on 6's strategems as you see fit. It would certainly be a distraction. 3cp and 405 points. Thoughts? Edited October 4, 2020 by Stupidity Tyriks 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366813-prismatic-dimensional-breach/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miek Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Can the unit charge after being deployed this way?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366813-prismatic-dimensional-breach/#findComment-5611602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupidity Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) Don't see why not. You could drop Lychguard with warscythes and charge Even Tomb Blades could be deployed, which would be funny but not really smart. Edited October 4, 2020 by Stupidity Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366813-prismatic-dimensional-breach/#findComment-5611608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miek Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) That's great then! I am a casual, non frequent player so I might've missed something (ahem, many things), but that seems like a great improvement over previous delivery mechanisms for flayed ones (or other core units as you mentioned). I'm pretty excited about this thanks for pointing it out! Edit: Ok rereading goonhammer's article and my observation about flayed ones seems irrelevant, nm. But what allows us to deep strike a night scythe? It doesn't have the rule and I can't find a stratagem or something that would give it to a NS (the monolith can innately deep strike). Edited October 4, 2020 by Miek Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366813-prismatic-dimensional-breach/#findComment-5611641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 The Strategic Reserves system from the core rulebook would let you Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366813-prismatic-dimensional-breach/#findComment-5611709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupidity Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 Edit: Ok rereading goonhammer's article and my observation about flayed ones seems irrelevant, nm. But what allows us to deep strike a night scythe? It doesn't have the rule and I can't find a stratagem or something that would give it to a NS (the monolith can innately deep strike). Can still use lychguard with warscythes. The Flyer keyword lets you deepstrike from strategic reserves in 9th as opposed to flanking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366813-prismatic-dimensional-breach/#findComment-5611713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miek Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I see, thanks. I need to stop using the free rules and get the core book.. Mr4Minutes 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366813-prismatic-dimensional-breach/#findComment-5611716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 The Flyer keyword lets you deepstrike from strategic reserves in 9th as opposed to flanking. Presumably an embarked unit could not perform a normal disembark because that must take place before the vehicle moves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366813-prismatic-dimensional-breach/#findComment-5611986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 The Flyer keyword lets you deepstrike from strategic reserves in 9th as opposed to flanking.Presumably an embarked unit could not perform a normal disembark because that must take place before the vehicle moves. That's correct for disembarking units, but the stratagem is not a disembark and has no limitations like that included. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366813-prismatic-dimensional-breach/#findComment-5612472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupidity Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 Seems like i'll be buying a Night/Doom Scythe. It's a pretty easy model to magnetize right? Also it just occurred to me how terrible the name of this strat it. Sounds like the necron arrive on a rainbow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366813-prismatic-dimensional-breach/#findComment-5612677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Seems like i'll be buying a Night/Doom Scythe. It's a pretty easy model to magnetize right? Also it just occurred to me how terrible the name of this strat it. Sounds like the necron arrive on a rainbow. That sounds class imo lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366813-prismatic-dimensional-breach/#findComment-5612690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Seems like i'll be buying a Night/Doom Scythe. It's a pretty easy model to magnetize right? Also it just occurred to me how terrible the name of this strat it. Sounds like the necron arrive on a rainbow. Yes, it's super easy to magnetize. I'm mad I didn't magnetize all of mine because it's just about the easiest thing to do Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366813-prismatic-dimensional-breach/#findComment-5612698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abraxus Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Based on a video I just watched, Flayed ones are not CORE, very few Necron units have that keyword, so there wont' be alot of options for this (Warriors, Immortals, and 1 or 2 others, I can't remember the others) but I DO remember that flayed ones and destroyers were not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366813-prismatic-dimensional-breach/#findComment-5614057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupidity Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Based on a video I just watched, Flayed ones are not CORE, very few Necron units have that keyword, so there wont' be alot of options for this (Warriors, Immortals, and 1 or 2 others, I can't remember the others) but I DO remember that flayed ones and destroyers were not. Warriors Immortals Deathmark Tomb Blades Lychguard Only the first and last seem worth the strat. Both would do real damage though. Maybe the only use for scythe wielding Lychguard Edited October 8, 2020 by Stupidity Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366813-prismatic-dimensional-breach/#findComment-5614061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I would say either 10 Lychguard with sword and board to survive Auspex Scan and the like or 20 Reaper Wariors with the exploding and auto wound on 6 strats. Lychguard would be S6 Ap-3, W2, A3, 2+/4++. They get stuck in and stay alive. The Reapers would just flatten units or chunk things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366813-prismatic-dimensional-breach/#findComment-5614104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Sounds like a great way to bounce up 20 Warriors with reapers. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366813-prismatic-dimensional-breach/#findComment-5614627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupidity Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 Warning New Player Theorycrafting! So, a possible focus for a Mephrit list iv'e been thinking about, built around the Outrider and Indomitus boxsets I own. One that will remain vague until battlescribe updates. The main idea is to get warrior blobs where they can abuse the Mephrit dynasty perks on T2. (1) Catacomb Command Barge: A Overlord/Phareon unit that's fast enough to buff Tomb blades and deepstriking warriors. Orb? (1-2) Technomancers: Buffing Doomstalkers and reanimating Deathmark. Another follows CCB and Tomb blades, healing and raising. (1) Royal Warden: Possible host for the teleport relic. Jumps warriors where they can do damage and allows fall back and shoot (Many) Warriors: One regiment with reapers that ride a rainbow into rapidfire range, the other with flayers that march up the middle or use the teleport relic to go where they are needed. Possible one unit of ten to ride a ghost ark where they need to be. (5) Immortals: One cheap unit of five that holds a backfield objective. (10) Deathmark: A unit of ten that punishes anyone that deepstrikes near my Doomstalkers or characters that wander into range. (6-9) Tomb Blades: Chafe clearers that allow the Night Scythe space to deepstrike into. They can lay down serious hurt T1 and survive the counter fire? (3-6) Wraiths: I own six so I hope they can tie up melee units or something. They seem good. (2-3) Doomstalkers: They hurt Vehicles that would take out my warriors. They don't need to dominate, I just need them to take out anti horde vehicles. (1) Night Scythe: Deepstrikes T2 wherever I want to drop twenty warriors with reapers. (1) Ghost Ark: Drops ten warriors where they are needed. Absorbs firepower? Clears chafe? Obviously this combined list is way more than 2000 points. I just wanted advice on if the idea behind the list seem potent. What seems the most effective and important units, what seems expendable? Throw any thoughts or criticisms you have at me, I can take it. Nusquam 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366813-prismatic-dimensional-breach/#findComment-5615007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Thokt Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Gotta get a C'tan in there Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366813-prismatic-dimensional-breach/#findComment-5615060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupidity Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 Huh. The Void Dragon might work if I take him instead of the Doomstalkers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/366813-prismatic-dimensional-breach/#findComment-5615718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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