Brother Ramael Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 We might actually be broken. BGVs getting inner circle is obnoxious Yes but tbh compared with termies it's not that clear, the cost is similar and the termies can put much more pressure on big targets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fierce Bear Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Out of interest, BGVs Vs DWk... Which do you take over the other? Kinda hoping WOTDA isn't 2cp (for small units, 10 Hellblasters yeah sure)... I am wondering if they have tweaked the IC and Jink abilities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel of Solitude Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 A lot of mathhammering to be done for sure. DWK can deepstrike, and hit harder - in terms of damage and strength - but BGV have more attacks but at a lower strength/damage point. I also think BGV may seem better value right now, but once GW sell enough, they’ll put the points up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hantheman Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I think itll be hard to make a bad dark angel list now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ramael Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 BVG seems better against "chaff" (if other marines can be counted as chaff), but if you need to dislodge something stubbron probably termies are better ( while they will have it harder against hordes). A fairer comparison would be BVG vs LC Termies perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanlee Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Nice hopefully inner circle and jink have not changed from the index wil Defo be picking up a few of the new speeder kit and possibly 6 boxes of blade guard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValourousHeart Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Storm speeders getting jink might actually tempt me to buy some. The only thing holding me back on them was their flimsyness compared to similar options. What are you comparing it too? I'm curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aura_enchanted Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Out of interest, BGVs Vs DWk... Which do you take over the other? Kinda hoping WOTDA isn't 2cp (for small units, 10 Hellblasters yeah sure)... I am wondering if they have tweaked the IC and Jink abilities... Better question, 3 bgv or 5 relic terminators with lcs and sb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCore67 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) Storm speeders getting jink might actually tempt me to buy some. The only thing holding me back on them was their flimsyness compared to similar options. What are you comparing it too? I'm curious.3 Land speeders with MM is only 40 points more than the hammerstrike, with more damage output and 8 more total wounds. 2 ATVs with MM are same price as hammerstrike for slightly worse damage output and 6 more total wounds, although they are 1 less toughness. 3 attack bikes with MM are 5 points less than hammerstrike for more damage output and 2 more wounds, although 1 less toughness. Edited January 30, 2021 by ShadowCore67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel of Solitude Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Storm speeders getting jink might actually tempt me to buy some. The only thing holding me back on them was their flimsyness compared to similar options. What are you comparing it too? I'm curious.3 Land speeders with MM is only 40 points more than the hammerstrike, with more damage output and 8 more total wounds. 2 ATVs with MM are same price as hammerstrike for slightly worse damage output and 6 more total wounds, although they are 1 less toughness. 3 attack bikes with MM are 5 points less than hammerstrike for more damage output and 2 more wounds, although 1 less toughness. 3 Landspeeders: given that the High Speed Focus stratagem has now changed to being able to target a single Ravenwing vehicle instead of the whole unit, this is where the Storm Speeder benefits. 2 ATVs: obvious point, but they can’t fly, so are more impacted by terrain. Don’t even benefit from High Speed Focus as they don’t have the VEHICLE keyword. Lots of S5 weaponry around means that T6 is a big difference. 3 Attack Bikes: the big advantage that they have over the other units is that they have the CORE keyword (making them eligible for auras) and can also be revived by an apothecary. This has been the option that I have been considering the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olsol Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) Guerrilla tactic review of the codex is up! Unfortunately, Deathwing strikemasters are just lieutenants in terminator armour. Don’t get any new rules Edited January 30, 2021 by Astral_Jackal jbaeza94 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel of Solitude Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) Looks like the Deathwing special ability is Implacable, which allows Infantry and Dreadnoughts to re-roll melee wounds against characters or vehicles with a wounds characteristic of 8+. EDIT - When the assault doctrine is active... Edited January 30, 2021 by Angel of Solitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olsol Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Looks like combined assault is gone. Which is a big sad (unless it’s been renamed cause I can’t read the tiny text) FarFromSam 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel of Solitude Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Goon hammer have their review up: https://www.goonhammer.com/codex-supplement-dark-angels-the-goonhammer-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ramael Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) I need on my sig something like " I play Dark Angels and I'm not going to apologize for it". Now honestly, if there is one thing I'll love 9th for is that the supposedly most badass terminator company of the Imperium is something that will make people sweat bolter bullets instead of being another paint job. Edited January 30, 2021 by Brother Ramael Fierce Bear, G8Keeper, Gederas and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Quinn Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I need on my sig something like " I play Dark Angels and I'm not going to apologize for it". Now honestly, if there is one thing I'll love 9th for is that the supposedly most badass terminator company of the Imperium is something that will make people sweat bolter bullets instead of being another paint job. I don’t feel bad. I’ve been with this faction since middle school so running close on 16 years without changing once! Loyalty is its own reward, right? Robbienw, FarFromSam, Brother Ramael and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ramael Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I need on my sig something like " I play Dark Angels and I'm not going to apologize for it". Now honestly, if there is one thing I'll love 9th for is that the supposedly most badass terminator company of the Imperium is something that will make people sweat bolter bullets instead of being another paint job. I don’t feel bad. I’ve been with this faction since middle school so running close on 16 years without changing once! Loyalty is its own reward, right? 2nd edition here; I bought the book for the BA and then.... bigtrouble and jbaeza94 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ramael Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) Based on what I see, Master Bel is kind of a beatstick, on top of all the old stuff he has the -1D warlord trait, talk about scary... Calibanite Knight as a WL trait is quite cool too.... Edit on edit: this is quite hilarious https://www.goonhammer.com/there-will-be-no-apologies-for-my-reign-of-terror/ Edited January 30, 2021 by Brother Ramael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I need on my sig something like " I play Dark Angels and I'm not going to apologize for it". Now honestly, if there is one thing I'll love 9th for is that the supposedly most badass terminator company of the Imperium is something that will make people sweat bolter bullets instead of being another paint job. I don’t feel bad. I’ve been with this faction since middle school so running close on 16 years without changing once! Loyalty is its own reward, right? 2nd edition here; I bought the book for the BA and then.... I'm a youngin by your standards. Started at the end of 7th Edition, didn't even get the chance to buy a codex before the edition change :lol: Based on what I see, Master Bel is kind of a beatstick, on top of all the old stuff he has the -1D warlord trait, talk about scary... Calibanite Knight as a WL trait is quite cool too.... Edit on edit: this is quite hilarious https://www.goonhammer.com/there-will-be-no-apologies-for-my-reign-of-terror/ I'm very excited to be honest. And Greg's Hot Take is hilarious jbaeza94 and WrathOfTheLion 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raychu Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) Just like other. I had my dark Angels since the Angels of death codex. So no i won't apologise whatsoever Edited January 30, 2021 by Raychu bigtrouble and jbaeza94 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbaeza94 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Dark angels was my chapter since 6th with dark vengeance. I always wanted a dw army but never did because of viability. Green/Deathwing was always my flavor. After reading the reviews, I’m very happy to say that DW dream may come into fruition. I am very excited, and now I’m wondering how I will kit out my strike master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hantheman Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 The loss of combined assualt is good for balance. It removes a big power spike that would have made us truly miserable to play against. We're very strong still. We'll see if we can stand up to quins, daemons, sister and necrons bigtrouble 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzul Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 So, is the +6" range on the Devastator doctrine gone? Thats replaced ny the new rules for RW in devastatoe, GW in tactical, and DW in assault, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Yes, that is gone now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isual Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) Does someone now if stoic prosecution is back with the supplement? Edited January 30, 2021 by Isual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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