Bung Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 I think Demons will stay. They have already models, most of them in plastic, too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Leaked SoH model, found in Maloghurst's packaging. Hungry Nostraman Lizard, Loquille, Excessus and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Sat here watching the thread, waiting for Bob to tack it together... ... and take some better pictures. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LameBeard Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) Volkite serpenta and powerfist? Aren’t any more Sons of Horus with rules but not models are there - so a generic Praetor or a sign of new character getting rules? Edited July 15, 2021 by LameBeard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) Volkite serpenta and powerfist? Aren’t any more Sons of Horus with rules but not models are there - so a generic Praetor or a sign of new character getting rules? It'll almost certainly be a Praetor. SoH "Praetor" (command set) is old and was poorly scaled even by the standards of the day Gear doesn't match any existing SCs without models or prominent characters without rules (e.g. Aximand) SoH are facing off against IF in the upcoming box, and IF have already had their two new Praetors revealed Scenic base on this model similarly styled to the scenic bases on the Imperial Fist Praetors If I were a betting man I'd say a legion dispatch tonight showing off this PA model + a Cataphractii SoH Praetor is quite likely Edited July 15, 2021 by Marshal Loss LameBeard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 ... the scenic base on this model is considerably larger than the IF Praetors, and very different in style. It's even larger than Maloghurst's. Bit jarring. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarvis Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Also, the silhouette of the imperial fist commander in the leaks looks nothing like the two praetors previously shown. Maybe the two characters in the upcoming box are named characters? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkwrath121 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) Also, the silhouette of the imperial fist commander in the leaks looks nothing like the two praetors previously shown. Maybe the two characters in the upcoming box are named characters? The praetors/officers in that plastic box will just be generic, usable for any legion. Whereas Forge-World's praetor range will focus in on specific legions, so it won't be named characters coming in the plastic release. Edited July 15, 2021 by Darkwrath121 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris R Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Well, at least this leak for this mini means we won’t have to deal with the inevitable “is it plastic” rumors and stories that pop up on Spikey Bits whenever a new Heresy model comes out these days. Arendious and Hungry Nostraman Lizard 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Also, the silhouette of the imperial fist commander in the leaks looks nothing like the two praetors previously shown. Maybe the two characters in the upcoming box are named characters? Probably just generic plastic characters at a guess, if this is intended as a launch set. ... the scenic base on this model is considerably larger than the IF Praetors, and very different in style. It's even larger than Maloghurst's. Bit jarring. It being larger than e.g. Maloghurst's means little - SC bases have ranged from zilch to a full display over the years. The styling also isn't all that different from the IF Cata's base. 40mm base could indicate a character but as SoH will undoubtedly get new Praetors, I still lean towards the latter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Also, the silhouette of the imperial fist commander in the leaks looks nothing like the two praetors previously shown. Maybe the two characters in the upcoming box are named characters? Probably just generic plastic characters at a guess, if this is intended as a launch set. ... the scenic base on this model is considerably larger than the IF Praetors, and very different in style. It's even larger than Maloghurst's. Bit jarring. It being larger than e.g. Maloghurst's means little - SC bases have ranged from zilch to a full display over the years. The styling also isn't all that different from the IF Cata's base. 40mm base could indicate a character but as SoH will undoubtedly get new Praetors, I still lean towards the latter. Interesting to note, I was building my Maloghurst and noticed he came on a 40mm base just like most of the Primaris character releases. Usually I’d pass this off due to scenic bases but Mal’s was pretty threadbare as far standards go for named characters. Nothing indicative, but it was interesting to note. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Nostraman Lizard Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Leaked SoH model, found in Maloghurst's packaging. I can already see the Eggheadminiature sales for that cloak and power fist. Those are good looking bits. Cris R and stretch_135 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Jeah I think that cape will be a good reason to go looking for my ojumaru Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 It’s pretty funny whoever is building this model is drip feeding us - my gaming group will burn the candle at both ends to post pictures in our chat about new models lol I’m curious too what piece is missing from the far right sprue in between the heads and the topknot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) Other people have also gotten the wrong model: Edited July 16, 2021 by Brofist Corswain and Spagunk 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Other people have also gotten the wrong model: <image snipped to save scrolling> Question is whether that dude is different scale to stand out, or if that's a new base scale overall. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I would assume new overall to match the new chaos marines. I am more and more convinced the reason the chaos marine revamp is taking so long is because it's paired with updating the heresy range. Bloody Legionnaire, Doctor Perils and Hungry Nostraman Lizard 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 So I did a really quick crop, move and line job on it (I'm sure people with better eyes than mine can do better) and the new SoH praetor is a smidge bigger than the Mk3 but is standing up straighter as if viewing the battlefield rather than hunched over in a fire-fight. Corswain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I really like the model. And the scale is not too far out to bother me - not all Astartes are the same height so I can be happy in my head-canon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Nostraman Lizard Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 I would assume new overall to match the new chaos marines. I am more and more convinced the reason the chaos marine revamp is taking so long is because it's paired with updating the heresy range. Interesting, I had assumed that the 'revamp' was done and finished. I had lost hopes that the excessively trimmed out Raptors would vanish. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Oil Spill with a nice 360° spin on the figure. As I posted up in News. Loquille and Excessus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 I would assume new overall to match the new chaos marines. I am more and more convinced the reason the chaos marine revamp is taking so long is because it's paired with updating the heresy range. Interesting, I had assumed that the 'revamp' was done and finished. I had lost hopes that the excessively trimmed out Raptors would vanish. I'm in the camp that believes Berserkers are a "when" and not an "if" regarding an updated kit (and that any finecast and 3rd edition plastics will eventually get replaced). A digital template for a Mk3-5 assault pose squad could form the basis for a late-Heresy World Eaters unit (less chaos, more legion specific details) and a new Berserker kit (more chaos, less legion specific details). Ditto for Night Lords and Raptors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5720889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) Man I wish legion dispatch would happen soon. I really am thirsty for some news Was another preview event scheduled soonish? Edited July 17, 2021 by Marshal Vespasian Hungry Nostraman Lizard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5721022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 I would assume new overall to match the new chaos marines. I am more and more convinced the reason the chaos marine revamp is taking so long is because it's paired with updating the heresy range. Interesting, I had assumed that the 'revamp' was done and finished. I had lost hopes that the excessively trimmed out Raptors would vanish. I'm in the camp that believes Berserkers are a "when" and not an "if" regarding an updated kit (and that any finecast and 3rd edition plastics will eventually get replaced). A digital template for a Mk3-5 assault pose squad could form the basis for a late-Heresy World Eaters unit (less chaos, more legion specific details) and a new Berserker kit (more chaos, less legion specific details). Ditto for Night Lords and Raptors. New Berzerkers are definitely a when rather than an if, but I think there's little chance that you'll ever see GW do a plastic "late heresy berzerker" box alongside a new berzerker box. They'll just do the latter, which will inevitably be part of a major World Eaters release. Raptors are also reasonably new by GW standards and it's unlikely they'll be replaced. That's not to say that e.g. CAD designs drawn from the new plastic MK VI won't form the basis of a Noise Marine kit or potential plastic MK V won't form the basis of a Berzerker kit (both examples per Jes Goodwin's sketches), but they're not going to double up on unit concepts like that. Hungry Nostraman Lizard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5721066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 That's not to say that e.g. CAD designs drawn from the new plastic MK VI won't form the basis of a Noise Marine kit or potential plastic MK V won't form the basis of a Berzerker kit (both examples per Jes Goodwin's sketches) ^This is what I meant, a set a basic CAD templates and then tweaked for 40k and 30k units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/32/#findComment-5721138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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