JeffJedi Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 I'm just ready to see the new box released. I dont think we have ever had this long between a leak and a true announcement. Asbestress, Aias and Pacific81 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 If the leaked rules are true alot of stuff will more interesting. For example the Herald. If keeps giving out+1 WS. Either as boost top a melee squad or making Breacher harder to shift in close combat. Petitioner's City 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific81 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 I'm just ready to see the new box released. I dont think we have ever had this long between a leak and a true announcement. Me too, just gimme those new minis and especially those lovely looking beakie sculpts from the earlier leaks Asbestress 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Valrak scrubbed his channel? Might not be as close to the box as we hoped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Last I heard from various discords and stuff is that people might actually be getting into legal trouble over the leaks. WrathOfTheLion 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) I think it's probably still scheduled for this year during the summer. The big thing to them is that full blown publications are leaking before they can control the release cycle and pacing there, as they haven't even announced that it's occurring yet. Their annoyance with it is probably significantly higher now for instance, as compared to say a month and a half from now. That and the documents are up in their actual form, when they've not been published. Edited March 4, 2022 by WrathOfTheLion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Probably someone fed up with GW and trying to force them to spill the beans. Lets face it we are all tired of GWs silence about the Heresy so i can totally understand someone trying to force GW to commit at least anything. There may be a fear of GW pushing back the game again. MegaVolt87 and Hungry Nostraman Lizard 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Yea it's the withholding the new edition, no communication and no updates to the game in the meantime. Malevolence is still languishing with no faq over 3 years later because presumably they were going to fix the issues in the new edition. But it hasn't been released and the issues haven't been addressed. I also feel terrible for dark angel players who waited the longest for their rules, only for them to be largely disjointed and slated to be promptly replaced. Saying it makes me suspect the pushback might have happened to give Crusade a better shelf life. And maybe explains the cut content so they could hustle it out as soon as possible for the same purpose. Brother Sutek 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Last I heard from various discords and stuff is that people might actually be getting into legal trouble over the leaks. If the leaks did come from a playtester then they would presumably have signed an NDA so...yeah... Asbestress and Pacific81 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asbestress Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) Valrak scrubbed his channel? Might not be as close to the box as we hoped. His video where he says "it's coming before Summer" and that he has "heard it's coming at Adepticon" (of course with a disclaimer) ( ) is still up, so I'm still keeping my hope.If it isn't revealed at Adepticon, then I still hope for at least a teaser (e.g.: Come back on X date/the new logo from Ka'bandha), but I won't be dissapointed if it's just a new FW mini. Edited March 5, 2022 by Asbestress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 if an announcement for the battle box/ heresy 2.0 is coming at Adepticon I'd expect a teaser trailer of some description in the coming weeks, they tend to hint at large releases like this in advance, especially if the rumours that this is gonna form a 3rd 'core' range alongside AoS & 40k are accurate (the "yet more is to come..." teaser at the end of the Khan's reveal trailer & the new logo sting when Kabanhda was revealed are already in that vein) Asbestress 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific81 Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Last I heard from various discords and stuff is that people might actually be getting into legal trouble over the leaks. If the leaks did come from a playtester then they would presumably have signed an NDA so...yeah... Yup that is how those work! The person will be in trouble if they can trace it back to them. Remember many years ago with the Lord of the Rings trilogy, some sample discs got sent out (I think possibly for Cannes) prior to the film release. Everyone who received one had had to sign an agreement not to distribute, but one did find its way onto file sharing websites. I remember seeing a copy many years later and 'for your consideration' would occasionally appear at the bottom of the screen. Even though they had sent out a couple of hundred discs apparently they did trace it back to the person who had leaked it and I know they were facing jail time (I'm not sure if that actually happened in the end). This won't be as serious as in that case the legal prosecution could have pointed to large volumes of lost revenue as a result of the leak, but I'm guessing someone would lose their job at the very least. Noserenda and Astartes Consul 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Just thinking about it, I can't remember the last time there was a direct leak from playtesting like this? Obviously lots of stuff filters out about most GW releases, but I can't remember seeing what appear to be direct pages from the rulebook in near final form leaked out like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Just thinking about it, I can't remember the last time there was a direct leak from playtesting like this? Obviously lots of stuff filters out about most GW releases, but I can't remember seeing what appear to be direct pages from the rulebook in near final form leaked out like this? The eldar stuff. Playtesters were leaking rules all through December, often with commentary. Seeing actual leaks and rumours brings me back to 2015 and 2016 where garro and Atia would get some scoops and build excitement for the heresy day for the full rules. Noserenda, Marshal Rohr, Aias and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris R Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Last I heard from various discords and stuff is that people might actually be getting into legal trouble over the leaks. If the leaks did come from a playtester then they would presumably have signed an NDA so...yeah... Yup that is how those work! The person will be in trouble if they can trace it back to them. Remember many years ago with the Lord of the Rings trilogy, some sample discs got sent out (I think possibly for Cannes) prior to the film release. Everyone who received one had had to sign an agreement not to distribute, but one did find its way onto file sharing websites. I remember seeing a copy many years later and 'for your consideration' would occasionally appear at the bottom of the screen. Even though they had sent out a couple of hundred discs apparently they did trace it back to the person who had leaked it and I know they were facing jail time (I'm not sure if that actually happened in the end). This won't be as serious as in that case the legal prosecution could have pointed to large volumes of lost revenue as a result of the leak, but I'm guessing someone would lose their job at the very least. One quick thing to add is the laws governing contracts in the leaker's country of residence could impact the legal problems they'd face beyond losing the job for breaking the NDA. I raise this since it's probable the beta testers may live around the world, meaning GW would need to draft contracts that operate within the confines of contract law for each individual's country. Pacific81 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Hopefully this won't have the same result as the WHFB Vampire Counts leak from years ago. GW stopped all external playtessting and it really showed in the quality of subsequent releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varyn Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 I've not checked a wide range of kits, but I have noticed that Justaerin went up in price from £42 to £49.50, which is around an 18% increase. I thought that resin kits were only going up by 10%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsam Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Sicaran plasma went up to £99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Just thinking about it, I can't remember the last time there was a direct leak from playtesting like this? Obviously lots of stuff filters out about most GW releases, but I can't remember seeing what appear to be direct pages from the rulebook in near final form leaked out like this? The eldar stuff. Playtesters were leaking rules all through December, often with commentary. Seeing actual leaks and rumours brings me back to 2015 and 2016 where garro and Atia would get some scoops and build excitement for the heresy day for the full rules. Okay well I had completely missed that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFirstKnight Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) My word. Had to wait till this Weds to make an order and Jaghatai Kahn being £92.50 is really hard to swallow. I mean nearly £100 for a Primarch is actually kinda bonkers. £46 for a basic Deimos Rhino is kinda depressing! Man I hope we get a plastic one at some point. Edited March 7, 2022 by TheFirstKnight darkhorse0607 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsam Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 How much did he use to be? I didn't even start with an 8 did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFirstKnight Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 I mean, he was £84 anyways, so the price increase is in line with what they said, but still it's...yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftheforest Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Wow just checked Angron who released at £50 and is now £73.50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Wow just checked Angron who released at £50 and is now £73.50 They needed to recoup the moulds and dev time of that 10 year old model lol. Definitely not a series of gouges when it actually costs pennies of material to manufacture since the infrastructure has been in place for a decade. MegaVolt87 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 Ooof... The Rhino price is horrific (as are the Aurox for poor Militia, but at least that's a complete resin kit) and they don't do the bundle anymore that saves at least a little cash. So glad I picked up Magnus second hand as I only really wanted him for the diorama. mooftak 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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