TheFirstKnight Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Ooof... The Rhino price is horrific (as are the Aurox for poor Militia, but at least that's a complete resin kit) and they don't do the bundle anymore that saves at least a little cash. So glad I picked up Magnus second hand as I only really wanted him for the diorama. Aye, and if you want the Legion specific doors, your basic troop transport is now £59. I wouldn't mind, I preferred the Mars pattern doors that went on the plastic Rhinos, but obviously they discontinued those Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armillion Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Checked this morning to see how much everything was up on both FW and GW. ouch... definitely going to make me reconsider/cancel some projects... I also saw this below, which I can't recall seeing on the online store before. Not sure what to make of it or how much to read into it, but if it is some way of buying multiple turrets/weapon options for tanks, I would love being able to buy multiple sicaran turret variants and one hull. Or its nothing, just their buggy website. Who knows? darkhorse0607 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zedmeister Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Seen that a few times. Not sure what it's about. And my word, those new prices sting. I remember Sicarans being £76 and Deimos Rhinos being £34 darkhorse0607 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkhorse0607 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 $140-150USD for a Primarch. Most special units are now at least $100USD. Man this is going to make me cut back considerably mooftak 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 I had picked up a few of those Mars pattern doors before they went out, enough for a couple DA Rhinos and a SW Rhino. Really liked how those turned out. Rhinos in general were cheap then, could get the plastic one for like $28 on ebay + the $18 or whatever for the doors from FW. For Deimos Rhinos, that has to inevitably be one they make the jump to plastic in the near term. The kit comes in one of their largest packaging boxes, which means it must significantly punch above its weight in warehouse costs. That's an obvious optimization if they can halve its shelf space, down to something like an impulsor size. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 I had picked up a few of those Mars pattern doors before they went out, enough for a couple DA Rhinos and a SW Rhino. Really liked how those turned out. Rhinos in general were cheap then, could get the plastic one for like $28 on ebay + the $18 or whatever for the doors from FW. For Deimos Rhinos, that has to inevitably be one they make the jump to plastic in the near term. The kit comes in one of their largest packaging boxes, which means it must significantly punch above its weight in warehouse costs. That's an obvious optimization if they can halve its shelf space, down to something like an impulsor size. yeah its also one they have already designed in CAD as its the same model as the sisters Rhino. just with less gubbins. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Makes we wince to think how much the (eventual) Heresy 2.0 starter set will be when it drops. mooftak 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Giga-Grain of Giga-Salt, but Naftka is reporting that AoD2.0 launch may be slated for June and is in its final playtesting phase currently. Pacific81 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Could as well just be postulation. All of those sorts of boxes have been dropping in June (Indomitus, Dominion), so that's the biggest conjecture. Right now, I certainly am also expecting June for that reason. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 I mean its Naftka thats more than likely. I'm still expecting news, if any, at Adepticon with a release at most ~3months after announcement. If we get nothing in that time period then its a Q4 release. Astartes Consul and Pacific81 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 oof, having to wait for June would be a hard time for me. Itchin' for some heresy over here (I.e. stockpiled cash to buy day one). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) oof, having to wait for June would be a hard time for me. Itchin' for some heresy over here (I.e. stockpiled cash to buy day one). More time to save MORE money to buy MORE stuff. Edited March 7, 2022 by Slips MegaVolt87 and Gorgoff 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 oof, having to wait for June would be a hard time for me. Itchin' for some heresy over here (I.e. stockpiled cash to buy day one). More time to save MORE money to buy MORE stuff. 100%. June suits me- that is also my birthday month coincidently. Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) Against any common sense I am a little bit curious what and if we going to get anything at adepticon as well. Edited March 9, 2022 by Gorgoff Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) If I had to wager: Boxed Set, Spartan, Rhino and a tank of some kind. They have the files for plastic Deimos Rhinos so it wouldnt be too much of a stretch for plastic 30k Predators, I guess? So that would be:2x Generic HQs Big chunk of Mk VI Marines Some Terminators New Plastic Contemptor that doesnt suck Big Transport Small Transport Battle Tank ...although a Plastic Sicaran would literally print money. All of this as a "First Wave" release so Boxed set first then like 1-2 months later, the tanks and stuff or whatever as they put the individual parts of the boxed set up for sale. Edited March 8, 2022 by Slips Noserenda and Pacific81 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Seperate kits wise, plastic demios predator, I hope so. The leaked unit entry had some spicy options which would be better in a plastic kit IMO. Not sure about plastic sicaran right away, makes sense to knock out all the rhino chassis vehicles first- preds, scorpius, both vindi's and rhino first up. Also plastic Mk IIB land raider makes a lot of sense to move to plastic straight away since its mostly plastic already. Noserenda 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific81 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Still time before release to change your mind 15-16 times about what Legion you want to represent with those new plastic marines :) MCC 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Im mostly hoping the Heresy plastic range does not include an arbitrary price bump over the 40k kits just because its replacing resin, or, like in the case of Sisters of Silence just for the lols :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Im mostly hoping the Heresy plastic range does not include an arbitrary price bump over the 40k kits just because its replacing resin, or, like in the case of Sisters of Silence just for the lols :/ ah yes the "we are passing the saving onto you by raising prices 10%" maneuver. Brother Sutek, mooftak and Noserenda 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCC Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Still time before release to change your mind 15-16 times about what Legion you want to represent with those new plastic marines :) only 15-16 times? For me it just depends on what book I’m reading at the moment lol. As far as plastic kits go, I’m hoping the rumour for every armour mark are true, I have plans for each of them. I’d also like breachers and assault marines in plastic preferably in plastic too. Ideally for every mark but I can’t see it, so maybe just resin upgrade kits for each new plastic kit I think bringing out plastic tanks is a must. If they sold a plastic rhino chassis and then you could buy the predator/whirlwind/vindicator resin upgrade from Forgeworld that’d be perfect. Realistically if the leaked predator stat sheet is correct the only way we’d have that many options is with resin upgrades. Doing this for every multi use chassis would be the way to go in my eyes Pacific81 and darkhorse0607 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Im mostly hoping the Heresy plastic range does not include an arbitrary price bump over the 40k kits just because its replacing resin, or, like in the case of Sisters of Silence just for the lols :/ ah yes the "we are passing the saving onto you by raising prices 10%" maneuver. Hey guys, guys remember when finecast replaced metals and the reasoning was its cheaper than metal so there would be savings, then finecast was more expensive than the metals they replaced and some of those metals were so good their replacements still can't measure up till this day? Biggest flex was a guy at my old LGS who had a big GK army with all the infantry in metals. Pacific81, mooftak and Brother Sutek 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris R Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Still time before release to change your mind 15-16 times about what Legion you want to represent with those new plastic marines :) only 15-16 times? For me it just depends on what book I’m reading at the moment lol. As far as plastic kits go, I’m hoping the rumour for every armour mark are true, I have plans for each of them. I’d also like breachers and assault marines in plastic preferably in plastic too. Ideally for every mark but I can’t see it, so maybe just resin upgrade kits for each new plastic kit I think bringing out plastic tanks is a must. If they sold a plastic rhino chassis and then you could buy the predator/whirlwind/vindicator resin upgrade from Forgeworld that’d be perfect. Realistically if the leaked predator stat sheet is correct the only way we’d have that many options is with resin upgrades. Doing this for every multi use chassis would be the way to go in my eyes Frankly, I would not be opposed to redoing my 34 Assault Marines if they got a resculpt that makes them look like they didn’t skip leg day. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Still time before release to change your mind 15-16 times about what Legion you want to represent with those new plastic marines only 15-16 times? For me it just depends on what book I’m reading at the moment lol. As far as plastic kits go, I’m hoping the rumour for every armour mark are true, I have plans for each of them. I’d also like breachers and assault marines in plastic preferably in plastic too. Ideally for every mark but I can’t see it, so maybe just resin upgrade kits for each new plastic kit I think bringing out plastic tanks is a must. If they sold a plastic rhino chassis and then you could buy the predator/whirlwind/vindicator resin upgrade from Forgeworld that’d be perfect. Realistically if the leaked predator stat sheet is correct the only way we’d have that many options is with resin upgrades. Doing this for every multi use chassis would be the way to go in my eyes Frankly, I would not be opposed to redoing my 34 Assault Marines if they got a resculpt that makes them look like they didn’t skip leg day. I prefer taller, streamlined/ sleek looking marines in power armour that isn't mk III. Leave the brute thicc style for termi's and Mk III. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris R Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Still time before release to change your mind 15-16 times about what Legion you want to represent with those new plastic marines only 15-16 times? For me it just depends on what book I’m reading at the moment lol. As far as plastic kits go, I’m hoping the rumour for every armour mark are true, I have plans for each of them. I’d also like breachers and assault marines in plastic preferably in plastic too. Ideally for every mark but I can’t see it, so maybe just resin upgrade kits for each new plastic kit I think bringing out plastic tanks is a must. If they sold a plastic rhino chassis and then you could buy the predator/whirlwind/vindicator resin upgrade from Forgeworld that’d be perfect. Realistically if the leaked predator stat sheet is correct the only way we’d have that many options is with resin upgrades. Doing this for every multi use chassis would be the way to go in my eyes Frankly, I would not be opposed to redoing my 34 Assault Marines if they got a resculpt that makes them look like they didn’t skip leg day. I prefer taller, streamlined/ sleek looking marines in power armour that isn't mk III. Leave the brute thicc style for termi's and Mk III. Sure, they don't have to be hefty like MKIIIs or the MKII assault version. But the current sculpts at least need a baseline upgrade to the same proportions as the plastic MKIVs. And having been working with the Angel's Tears and Dawnbreakers, which have been a lot of fun to paint, I think it's definitely possible to produce MKIV Assault Marines that feel heftier and streamlined at the same time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5802968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Still time before release to change your mind 15-16 times about what Legion you want to represent with those new plastic marines only 15-16 times? For me it just depends on what book I’m reading at the moment lol. As far as plastic kits go, I’m hoping the rumour for every armour mark are true, I have plans for each of them. I’d also like breachers and assault marines in plastic preferably in plastic too. Ideally for every mark but I can’t see it, so maybe just resin upgrade kits for each new plastic kit I think bringing out plastic tanks is a must. If they sold a plastic rhino chassis and then you could buy the predator/whirlwind/vindicator resin upgrade from Forgeworld that’d be perfect. Realistically if the leaked predator stat sheet is correct the only way we’d have that many options is with resin upgrades. Doing this for every multi use chassis would be the way to go in my eyes Frankly, I would not be opposed to redoing my 34 Assault Marines if they got a resculpt that makes them look like they didn’t skip leg day. I prefer taller, streamlined/ sleek looking marines in power armour that isn't mk III. Leave the brute thicc style for termi's and Mk III. Sure, they don't have to be hefty like MKIIIs or the MKII assault version. But the current sculpts at least need a baseline upgrade to the same proportions as the plastic MKIVs. And having been working with the Angel's Tears and Dawnbreakers, which have been a lot of fun to paint, I think it's definitely possible to produce MKIV Assault Marines that feel heftier and streamlined at the same time. I hear you, I just have a hard time seeing GW get it right which is a worry for me. Cris R, darkhorse0607 and mooftak 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/88/#findComment-5803013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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