Lysimachus Posted January 9, 2022 Author Share Posted January 9, 2022 Perhaps a Str increase to take you up over base 40 (and therefore push your Bonus up to 10). It's only 500 as it would be your first Advance? How about Hard Target or Sure Strike from the RG list, either sneaky or precise, both quite fitting? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5781899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I had been considering the strength advance too. Unfortunately I have been considering danged near everything, but I'm having the most difficulty rank-ordering the blasted things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5781901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Weren't you pondering taking Logic at Rank 2? I recall you mentioning? Necronaut 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5781906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) Not Logic, no. Vesalius doesn't even have it at rank 1 yet. However, that would be in keeping with his character. Edited January 9, 2022 by Necronaut Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5781908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) Thanks for the suggestions, gents. I think my biggest issue has been trying to determine what I want to do with Vesalius as a character. He's not going to be the strongest meleeist, nor the most powerful ranged character (barring the requisition of a pocket meltagun for the luls). Based on his stats and skillset, he is definitely well suited to a secondary/support role with the capability for behind-enemy-lines style insertions. I appreciate the input! Vesalius' XP spend: Trade (Chymistry) - 600 Tactics (recon & stealth) - 300 Strength 1 - 500 Sure Strike - 500 Logic +0 - 400 Total: 2300 xp Edited January 9, 2022 by Necronaut Lysimachus and Machine God 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5781915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Scholastic Lore (Chymistry) maybe? strength upgrade is a good idea. Necronaut 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5781918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Vesalius got the chymistry lore at a bit of a discount thanks to his deed (protector of the chapter). Black Cohort 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5781920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) Upon rereading how medicae works, the +10 advancement will actually be of value, particularly on knowledge-based medicae tests, even if that pushes his +0 First Aid test target number north of 100. But that can wait for another day. Edit: and I made a minor change to my XP spend, dropping chem-use and interrogation +10 for Trade (Chymistry) +0, as thus far I have RP-ed Vesalius manufacturing chemicals with no commensurate skill to actually back it up. Sorry, Lys! Edited January 9, 2022 by Necronaut Lysimachus and Mazer Rackham 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5781936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I re-worked Draak's XP spend. Draak spent 2300 XP on the following: Command - 300 XP. Mighty Shot - 500 XP. Signature Wargear - 500 XP. Signature Wargear (Master) - 1000 XP. For a Backpack of Kraken Rounds - 30 Req Pts. Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5782026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) Signature Wargear (Master) - 1000 XP. For a Backpack of Kraken Rounds - 30 Req Pts. I like your thinking MG, but unfortunately, you can't Sig Wargear Spec Ammo or consumables like grenades. If I may suggest, however, being an ex-Devastator doing the same thing as yourself and BC, I'd look at taking a Craftsmanship upgrade, or perhaps Sig Wargear a Suspensor. Edited January 9, 2022 by Mazer Rackham Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5782037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Signature Wargear (Master) - 1000 XP. For a Backpack of Kraken Rounds - 30 Req Pts. I like your thinking MG, but unfortunately, you can't Sig Wargear Spec Ammo or consumables like grenades. If I may suggest, however, being an ex-Devastator doing the same thing as yourself and BC, I'd look at taking a Craftsmanship upgrade, or perhaps Sig Wargear a Suspensor. @MR - But the Wargear is the Backpack full of SIA. Its 'One Item.' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5782052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Not me you've got to convince squire! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5782066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 my signature wargear is a melee weapon, so I have more options. shockingly a heavy bolter isn't ideal for every situation. and Decimus may end up as a chaplain (he has a lot of hate to work through) so he needs some melee experience. Lysimachus, Machine God, Mazer Rackham and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5782073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted January 9, 2022 Author Share Posted January 9, 2022 Yup, I'm with Mazer on that one, I'm afraid, SIA can't be Sig Wargear'd. If you want the backpack itself as '1 item' you can SWG that... but it comes empty and you already have one full with regular ammo as standard Dev equipment... :D Machine God 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5782074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Shockingly a heavy bolter isn't ideal for every situation. Well. I'm devastated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5782076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Yup, I'm with Mazer on that one, I'm afraid, SIA can't be Sig Wargear'd. If you want the backpack itself as '1 item' you can SWG that... but it comes empty and you already have one full with regular ammo as standard Dev equipment... @Lysimachus - thank you. I'll have a bit more of a think then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5782079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Maybe a multi-melta or a missile launcher is in Draak's future? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5782089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Just double-checking here, @MG, as I may have missed it - what is the Rank 1 Sig Wargear for? Is it Grendel? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5782150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) Just double-checking here, @MG, as I may have missed it - what is the Rank 1 Sig Wargear for? Is it Grendel?@MR - No, if you look at Lysimachus' post above. Devastators get a HB and Backpack of ammo for free. No, the Rank 1 Sig Wargear is the prerequisite for the Rank 2 Sig Wargear. Edited January 10, 2022 by Machine God Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5782225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Ah, right, right. Sorry, got confused. Happens a lot at my age. Machine God 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5782379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I had a think. Draak spent his 2300 XP thus: FEL +5 - 500 XP. Command - 300 XP. Mighty Shot - 500 XP. Signature Wargear (Motion Predictor) - 500 XP. Signature Wargear (Suppression Stabiliser) - 500 XP. Post updated: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370180-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-episode-2/?p=5780451 Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5782560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Orphiel's paranoia is as refreshing as that first cup of coffee in the morning. Mazer Rackham and Lysimachus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5789712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Well you know, when in the Rock.... Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5789724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Well you know, when in the Rock.... suspect your allies of committing high treason? Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5789856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) You show great promise, young one. We are polite enough however not to say "...committing High Treason." We much prefer '...of being misinformed.' Edited January 27, 2022 by Mazer Rackham Trokair 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369913-to-plunder-the-stars-themselves-ooc-thread/page/88/#findComment-5789857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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