Cryptshadow Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I would love to have a rule for the Black Sword which is ignoring rules which ignore damgage. So that we dont use 3 phases (we just have 2 to deal damage) to kill things like Ghazhkull and C-Tan etc... Or we get lot of Mortal wound mechanics like the holy grenade in the end of the movement phase to deal with them above and the emperors champion can ignore Invulves. Isnt the black sword just a mastercrafted power sword? It shouldnt have anything like that imo. Nor should there be a rule like that imo, i think those rules are there not only to show how strong those models are in the lore, but so that on the table they arent immediately blown off. And an emperors isnt that strong It's definitely not "just" a MC powersword. They are much more special than that and further they aren't even powerswords! I'll have to dig out the new fluff on it but they are rare and powerful blades They are rare since there are only 10 at least according to the wiki. It just says its a 2h power weapon that is said to increase the wielders strength. And apperantly every legion had an emperors champion. :p. But ya i still dont think its itd be a good idea to have more rules that ignore more rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Talarian Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I would love to have a rule for the Black Sword which is ignoring rules which ignore damgage. So that we dont use 3 phases (we just have 2 to deal damage) to kill things like Ghazhkull and C-Tan etc... Or we get lot of Mortal wound mechanics like the holy grenade in the end of the movement phase to deal with them above and the emperors champion can ignore Invulves. Isnt the black sword just a mastercrafted power sword? It shouldnt have anything like that imo. Nor should there be a rule like that imo, i think those rules are there not only to show how strong those models are in the lore, but so that on the table they arent immediately blown off. And an emperors isnt that strong It's definitely not "just" a MC powersword. They are much more special than that and further they aren't even powerswords! I'll have to dig out the new fluff on it but they are rare and powerful bladesThey are rare since there are only 10 at least according to the wiki. It just says its a 2h power weapon that is said to increase the wielders strength. And apperantly every legion had an emperors champion. :p. But ya i still dont think its itd be a good idea to have more rules that ignore more rules. I’m all for it! There’s too many high invul saves in the game. Things can take forever to die, the more ways around this the better! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brethren Durion Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) I would love to have a rule for the Black Sword which is ignoring rules which ignore damgage. So that we dont use 3 phases (we just have 2 to deal damage) to kill things like Ghazhkull and C-Tan etc... Or we get lot of Mortal wound mechanics like the holy grenade in the end of the movement phase to deal with them above and the emperors champion can ignore Invulves. Isnt the black sword just a mastercrafted power sword? It shouldnt have anything like that imo. Nor should there be a rule like that imo, i think those rules are there not only to show how strong those models are in the lore, but so that on the table they arent immediately blown off. And an emperors isnt that strong It's definitely not "just" a MC powersword. They are much more special than that and further they aren't even powerswords! I'll have to dig out the new fluff on it but they are rare and powerful bladesThey are rare since there are only 10 at least according to the wiki. It just says its a 2h power weapon that is said to increase the wielders strength. And apperantly every legion had an emperors champion. :p. But ya i still dont think its itd be a good idea to have more rules that ignore more rules.The other legion don't got the black sword and the true emperor's champion with Emperor's vision are only for Black Templar ones due to the Sigismund stuff who is the OG chosen by the emperor himself. Edited August 23, 2021 by Sword Brethren Durion Medjugorje 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Autohit 3.5 on average ≈ assault5 which hit on 3+. If it cost 2 or 3 pts I would be happy to equip it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 it must be for free or good stratagems/special rules. Without its crap although I like the style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) Makes me wonder what other options there might be, extra power weapon? Meltagun? I dont really like the look of the gun and for anti-infantry in a Crusader squad I think there's value in just keeping them cheap, either 20 man bolters or 20 man chainswords will wipe the floor with most non-meq units. Its gonna be interesting to see how these "new" units are supported in the rules. Also multi-melta implusors? Now that its kind of confirmed you guys think it'll be a good unit? I think it sounds great, 4 melta shots with a 5++? Its a better and faster Immolator/Razorback, if it just replaces the optional stubber and not the turret then its more questionable imo. EDIT: I was looking at Dosjetka's post and its interesting (now that its more believable) that it mentions that "New Orks releases alongside a Black Templars box", I didnt notice it before but thats cool that if Orks get announced so will we, maybe like a week apart. Awesome times. Edited August 23, 2021 by redmapa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayrich131 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 They finally realised that Black Templar are the coolest chapter and the most marketable. I mean look how healthy the fanbase is and we haven't had anything to be happy about for near 2 decades. If they actually put some love into BT they could easily become the no.1 chapter. Gederas and Kastor Krieg 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trignama Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) "Also multi-melta implusors? Now that its kind of confirmed you guys think it'll be a good unit? I think it sounds great, 4 melta shots with a 5++? Its a better and faster Immolator/Razorback, if it just replaces the optional stubber and not the turret then its more questionable imo." Multi Meltas are 2 shots, not 4, but yes, if we can upgrade the impulsors heavy stubber for a MM, then it becomes rather interesting. The fragstorm sponsons are still good for anti infantry, you get a couple of melta shots to tear up vehicles/monsters and when the dangerous stuff is down you unload the impulsor contents to do their thing. 5++ isn't bad for survivability either, ESPECIALLY if you have other armor on the table to draw fire, like redemptors. Edited August 24, 2021 by Trignama Gederas 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urkh Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 They finally realised that Black Templar are the coolest chapter and the most marketable. I mean look how healthy the fanbase is and we haven't had anything to be happy about for near 2 decades. If they actually put some love into BT they could easily become the no.1 chapter. We're the best because we are what space marines are supposed to be. Kastor Krieg and Marshal Valkenhayn 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayOkuz Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 The rumoured flamer profile turned out to be correct; curious to see how far the correct predictions go. Oh I did not saw the rumors. What else they got in? I wonder the others will be come true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Page 27. BayOkuz 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Now we have to wait a week for either sword bretheren or neophytes. The agony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Me fink GW would preview the units which have their models in launch box earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Indeed. Expecting the marshal or a neophyte next, maybe the crusader squads sword brother leader. Or possibly itll be quiet a week or so, then they do a full box preview? The box will be out in september, prolly towards the end of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayrich131 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) I was really surprised we got done yesterday to be honest. I mean our codex isn't for another 2 1/2 months. That's a long time to be slowly revealing models, I thought they would wait a bit before anything else. But then again it was just a flamer from the crusade squad, maybe they are planning to do 1 single model from each kit each week to drag it out. I get the feeling someone at GW is super excited about the BT rework. Usually GW never give concrete info before official post, least of all time frames. When EC model came out they already have us 2 huge hints of codex and launch box, they even used the language 'very soon' which is not in their normal vocabulary. I get the feeling someone is really excited. I mean when in the past has a single model from a 20 man unit been considered important enough for their own article on new model Monday. They also did a 'codex roadmap' that wasn't even a roadmap, it literally provided no information other than "BT coming in November". I feel like the entire post was made just to deliver that news to us. Edited August 24, 2021 by Jayrich131 Trignama and Gederas 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 The thing is, if we're getting a launch box in September, in the same vein as Orks and Sisters, our codex supplement isn't 2.5 months away, it's next month. Trignama and painting.for.my.sanity 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 I mean our codex isn't for another 2 1/2 months.Well, the launch box is expected* in September, that's at most 5 weeks away... * I do mean expected, expectations might be off though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trignama Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Honestly a launch box with a special edition version of our supplement coming next month makes complete sense. GW is already leaking rules for weapon options, and what the models look like. As previously mentioned this is being done with a sort of enthusiasm that is unique to this specific release. This would also fall in line with what was done for Sisters and Orks already. I mean I currently have the new Ork codex (my son plays them) so in my world they already have been released, and I'm not waiting on anything. The same will be true for us, hold steady brothers, I think the next few weeks are going to be very exciting for us. Sword Brother Adelard 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayrich131 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Oh yeah you guys are totally right. I forgot about the whole special edition codex being available aonth or 2 before regular trend that GW have been doing. Which is surprising considering how much I am looking forward to our special edition cover art. I really hope we are 5 weeks out of firsr launch box. Trignama and Sword Brother Adelard 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayrich131 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 After seeing the comments on Valrak's video about the rumoured launch box contents I decided to write up a quick break down of what it could come to. This is in AUD, you can figure out US and GBP similarly but our prices are a bit different. So, the contents (with compared item and cost): 1x Marshal - (Primaris Captain) $60 1x Emperor's Champion - (Primaris Lieutenant) $55 1x Redemptor Dreadnought - $110 6x Crusaders - (Blood Angels Death Company Intercessors) $77 4x Neophytes - (Scouts) $46 Supplement - $49 (not taking into account limited edition cover) Data Cards - $33 Dice? - $55 Total value = $485 Probably price = $290 (same as Beast Snaggas, SoB) Potential Savings = $195 or 40% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Ork launch box doesn't contain dice. Sisters launch box have 12 dice in it, but these are normal white dice, without any special symbol on the faces. https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/40kSoBUnboxing-Nov11-Dice4hhv.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradeh Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) Crusader squad will be one kit, no way it's seperate. Will be priced between Assault Intercessors and Heavy Intercessors most likely. Edited August 24, 2021 by Bradeh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Templar Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 After seeing the comments on Valrak's video about the rumoured launch box contents I decided to write up a quick break down of what it could come to. This is in AUD, you can figure out US and GBP similarly but our prices are a bit different. So, the contents (with compared item and cost): 1x Marshal - (Primaris Captain) $60 1x Emperor's Champion - (Primaris Lieutenant) $55 1x Redemptor Dreadnought - $110 6x Crusaders - (Blood Angels Death Company Intercessors) $77 4x Neophytes - (Scouts) $46 Supplement - $49 (not taking into account limited edition cover) Data Cards - $33 Dice? - $55 Total value = $485 Probably price = $290 (same as Beast Snaggas, SoB) Potential Savings = $195 or 40% This post just reminds me how bad AUS/NZ prices are. I have to buy from a UK website, ship to a postbox in the UK, which on-forwards to NZ via international mail. Even with all those steps I save about 40% on NZ retail price. Crazy. Marshal Loss 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWORD BROTHER RYAN Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 I have always said that I will believe it when I see it, but I have always prayed to the God-Emperor that we would not be ignored forever. We have been noticed through our ZEAL and proper devotions to our Eternal Crusade, and are FINALLY being justly rewarded. I will not gainsay anything they give us. It is enough to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that our patience has paid off. I look forward to what comes! Brother Carpenter 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1GBP = 1.98NZD today. The nz price of the same item should be ~2x in GBP. But the price on GW website is more than 3x. JAG Templar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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