Tokugawa Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Autohit 3.5 on average ≈ assault5 which hit on 3+. If it cost 2 or 3 pts I would be happy to equip it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 it must be for free or good stratagems/special rules. Without its crap although I like the style. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) Makes me wonder what other options there might be, extra power weapon? Meltagun? I dont really like the look of the gun and for anti-infantry in a Crusader squad I think there's value in just keeping them cheap, either 20 man bolters or 20 man chainswords will wipe the floor with most non-meq units. Its gonna be interesting to see how these "new" units are supported in the rules. Also multi-melta implusors? Now that its kind of confirmed you guys think it'll be a good unit? I think it sounds great, 4 melta shots with a 5++? Its a better and faster Immolator/Razorback, if it just replaces the optional stubber and not the turret then its more questionable imo. EDIT: I was looking at Dosjetka's post and its interesting (now that its more believable) that it mentions that "New Orks releases alongside a Black Templars box", I didnt notice it before but thats cool that if Orks get announced so will we, maybe like a week apart. Awesome times. Edited August 23, 2021 by redmapa Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayrich131 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 They finally realised that Black Templar are the coolest chapter and the most marketable. I mean look how healthy the fanbase is and we haven't had anything to be happy about for near 2 decades. If they actually put some love into BT they could easily become the no.1 chapter. Kastor Krieg and Gederas 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trignama Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) "Also multi-melta implusors? Now that its kind of confirmed you guys think it'll be a good unit? I think it sounds great, 4 melta shots with a 5++? Its a better and faster Immolator/Razorback, if it just replaces the optional stubber and not the turret then its more questionable imo." Multi Meltas are 2 shots, not 4, but yes, if we can upgrade the impulsors heavy stubber for a MM, then it becomes rather interesting. The fragstorm sponsons are still good for anti infantry, you get a couple of melta shots to tear up vehicles/monsters and when the dangerous stuff is down you unload the impulsor contents to do their thing. 5++ isn't bad for survivability either, ESPECIALLY if you have other armor on the table to draw fire, like redemptors. Edited August 24, 2021 by Trignama Gederas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urkh Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 They finally realised that Black Templar are the coolest chapter and the most marketable. I mean look how healthy the fanbase is and we haven't had anything to be happy about for near 2 decades. If they actually put some love into BT they could easily become the no.1 chapter. We're the best because we are what space marines are supposed to be. Kastor Krieg and Marshal Valkenhayn 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayOkuz Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 The rumoured flamer profile turned out to be correct; curious to see how far the correct predictions go. Oh I did not saw the rumors. What else they got in? I wonder the others will be come true Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Page 27. BayOkuz 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Now we have to wait a week for either sword bretheren or neophytes. The agony. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Me fink GW would preview the units which have their models in launch box earlier. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Indeed. Expecting the marshal or a neophyte next, maybe the crusader squads sword brother leader. Or possibly itll be quiet a week or so, then they do a full box preview? The box will be out in september, prolly towards the end of it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayrich131 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) I was really surprised we got done yesterday to be honest. I mean our codex isn't for another 2 1/2 months. That's a long time to be slowly revealing models, I thought they would wait a bit before anything else. But then again it was just a flamer from the crusade squad, maybe they are planning to do 1 single model from each kit each week to drag it out. I get the feeling someone at GW is super excited about the BT rework. Usually GW never give concrete info before official post, least of all time frames. When EC model came out they already have us 2 huge hints of codex and launch box, they even used the language 'very soon' which is not in their normal vocabulary. I get the feeling someone is really excited. I mean when in the past has a single model from a 20 man unit been considered important enough for their own article on new model Monday. They also did a 'codex roadmap' that wasn't even a roadmap, it literally provided no information other than "BT coming in November". I feel like the entire post was made just to deliver that news to us. Edited August 24, 2021 by Jayrich131 Trignama and Gederas 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 The thing is, if we're getting a launch box in September, in the same vein as Orks and Sisters, our codex supplement isn't 2.5 months away, it's next month. Trignama and painting.for.my.sanity 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 I mean our codex isn't for another 2 1/2 months.Well, the launch box is expected* in September, that's at most 5 weeks away... * I do mean expected, expectations might be off though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trignama Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Honestly a launch box with a special edition version of our supplement coming next month makes complete sense. GW is already leaking rules for weapon options, and what the models look like. As previously mentioned this is being done with a sort of enthusiasm that is unique to this specific release. This would also fall in line with what was done for Sisters and Orks already. I mean I currently have the new Ork codex (my son plays them) so in my world they already have been released, and I'm not waiting on anything. The same will be true for us, hold steady brothers, I think the next few weeks are going to be very exciting for us. Sword Brother Adelard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayrich131 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Oh yeah you guys are totally right. I forgot about the whole special edition codex being available aonth or 2 before regular trend that GW have been doing. Which is surprising considering how much I am looking forward to our special edition cover art. I really hope we are 5 weeks out of firsr launch box. Sword Brother Adelard and Trignama 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayrich131 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 After seeing the comments on Valrak's video about the rumoured launch box contents I decided to write up a quick break down of what it could come to. This is in AUD, you can figure out US and GBP similarly but our prices are a bit different. So, the contents (with compared item and cost): 1x Marshal - (Primaris Captain) $60 1x Emperor's Champion - (Primaris Lieutenant) $55 1x Redemptor Dreadnought - $110 6x Crusaders - (Blood Angels Death Company Intercessors) $77 4x Neophytes - (Scouts) $46 Supplement - $49 (not taking into account limited edition cover) Data Cards - $33 Dice? - $55 Total value = $485 Probably price = $290 (same as Beast Snaggas, SoB) Potential Savings = $195 or 40% Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Ork launch box doesn't contain dice. Sisters launch box have 12 dice in it, but these are normal white dice, without any special symbol on the faces. https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/40kSoBUnboxing-Nov11-Dice4hhv.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradeh Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) Crusader squad will be one kit, no way it's seperate. Will be priced between Assault Intercessors and Heavy Intercessors most likely. Edited August 24, 2021 by Bradeh Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Templar Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 After seeing the comments on Valrak's video about the rumoured launch box contents I decided to write up a quick break down of what it could come to. This is in AUD, you can figure out US and GBP similarly but our prices are a bit different. So, the contents (with compared item and cost): 1x Marshal - (Primaris Captain) $60 1x Emperor's Champion - (Primaris Lieutenant) $55 1x Redemptor Dreadnought - $110 6x Crusaders - (Blood Angels Death Company Intercessors) $77 4x Neophytes - (Scouts) $46 Supplement - $49 (not taking into account limited edition cover) Data Cards - $33 Dice? - $55 Total value = $485 Probably price = $290 (same as Beast Snaggas, SoB) Potential Savings = $195 or 40% This post just reminds me how bad AUS/NZ prices are. I have to buy from a UK website, ship to a postbox in the UK, which on-forwards to NZ via international mail. Even with all those steps I save about 40% on NZ retail price. Crazy. Marshal Loss 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWORD BROTHER RYAN Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 I have always said that I will believe it when I see it, but I have always prayed to the God-Emperor that we would not be ignored forever. We have been noticed through our ZEAL and proper devotions to our Eternal Crusade, and are FINALLY being justly rewarded. I will not gainsay anything they give us. It is enough to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that our patience has paid off. I look forward to what comes! Brother Carpenter 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1GBP = 1.98NZD today. The nz price of the same item should be ~2x in GBP. But the price on GW website is more than 3x. JAG Templar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayrich131 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) Ork launch box doesn't contain dice. Sisters launch box have 12 dice in it, but these are normal white dice, without any special symbol on the faces. https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/40kSoBUnboxing-Nov11-Dice4hhv.jpg Yeah, that's why I put ? Next to it. I am hoping they do give us dice seeing as our contents seem a little on the undervalued side compared to other launch boxes. Crusader squad will be one kit, no way it's seperate. Will be priced between Assault Intercessors and Heavy Intercessors most likely. Possibly, but we can't know that because we have no precedent to go off. The only existing unique primaris intercessor-based models is the BA ones I referenced. I hope we get a box of 5 + 5 but I can't estimate what the price would be. After all the 5 X BA Death Company Intercessors costs almost as much as 10 X normal intercessors. So it seems pretty obvious to me that if we want special, unique primaris models we will be paying a higher premium than regular intercessor prices. Edited August 24, 2021 by Jayrich131 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptshadow Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) The other legion don't got the black sword and the true emperor's champion with Emperor's vision are only for Black Templar ones due to the Sigismund stuff who is the OG chosen by the emperor himself. Sigismund wasnt chosen by the emperor, he was chosen by dorn, from what i found it was just a title as far as i could find. And vision thing we have no idea if its from the emperor or if its some sort of brainwash thing that only comes out whe they so the ritual. And the black sword while cool and rare doesnt seem to be that different from a mastercrafted weapon Edited August 25, 2021 by Cryptshadow Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 maybe there is a retcon. Before the Horus Heresy books Sigismund wasnt a major ranked Space Marine. The HH series made him into first captain. Why should GW not change that. Maybe Dorn was ordered by the Emperor (which I really hope) and we will read it in the next Siege of terra book. SWORD BROTHER RYAN 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/40/#findComment-5734763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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