Trignama Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 I wish GW give primaris Crusader reasonable rules, so BT players could use them confidently, not only by aesthetic reason. Normal intercessor has stratagem to shoot twice; assault intercessor has stratagem to fight twice(though 2cp and seldom used). I wonder whether primaris crusaders get access to similar ability, or none. seldom used? Especially we as BT can use it with devout push in an exrem no other can do. Devot push into a unit which where shot by whirlwind with fight last strat -> kill them -> consolidate 6" into next squad ->fight twice immedialty -> kill them and consolidate 6" again!!! Also, don't down talk crusader squads so quickly, they actually are not bad at 15ppm for the Marines. Yeah you lack the stratagem support, but you have more bodies so it kinda evens out. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 New Ork Combat Patrol is 25 minis and only the Deff Dread is not a new kit. I really think this means the BT combat patrol is the rumored box with almost all new stuff except the Redemptor dreadnaught and the limited launch box is just new stuff. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 We'll see. It shouldn't be long now for a box reveal if its due out next month some time. Maybe not tomorrow soon (hope we at least get another tease in that case) , but next month starts next week, so the window for a preview even for something at the end of the month can't be more than a few weeks off at most at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 I'm ready for Black Templar Monday. BLACK BLΠFLY and Marshal Reinhard 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Another character would be nice . Shadowshand 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) The characters in combat patrol and launch box should be different ones. Since we don't have so many new items as orks, i expect Primaris Crusaders features in both boxes. Edited August 29, 2021 by Tokugawa BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 I wonder if they'll beat Wargame Exclusive's offerings. This is about as perfect a Primaris Helbrecht as I can imagine and both EmpChamps are top notch. Can't wait to see Grimaldus reimagined as well. templargdt and BLACK BLΠFLY 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argyle Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) Hah! I am currently painting all three of those along with the chaplain from them. Edit: as a side note, the models arrive looking as clean and crisp as those pictures imply. Honestly unbelievable casting quality. Edited August 30, 2021 by Argyle Kastor Krieg and BLACK BLΠFLY 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke Frog Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Hah! I am currently painting all three of those along with the chaplain from them. Edit: as a side note, the models arrive looking as clean and crisp as those pictures imply. Honestly unbelievable casting quality. Would love to see those painted up in true templar colors!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 They've been hinting at Sword Brethren for a couple of articles so perhaps this Black Monday will be the showcase for them? Or maybe they'll show the Neophyte model. According to the rumors the box is supposed to be out ALONGSIDE the ork release so if that remains true then GW has two weeks to show it and release with the second wave of Ork stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Laeroth Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Ironically, to make primaris crusader kits selling, the first thing GW need to do on rules is : nuke the 15pts classic crusader. If cheaper older unit exist, it will obviously harm the sale of primaris crusaders. I honestly doubt that you’d be surprised how little most of the player base cares about rules or at least competitive play and just loves new gorgeous models Especially after 16 ish years of waiting for some I would VERY much dispute that. BLACK BLŒ FLY and Trignama 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 While I do think models trumps rules*, we should remember that both are in fact important. We've had 16 years without new models, which was terrible, but we also had a really long dry spell of rules updates following 4th edition. Following 4th, we never did get a fifth edition codex so we went without much of an update for what 7 years(bar FAQ updates? when did those start anyway?) Being an edition behind was also terrible. One of the reasons I was actually excited for the 6th edition SM codex (before it hit anyway) despite us being rolled in was because it was finally going to mean we would be up to date and get access to a bunch of newer space marine things(like thunderfire cannons, storm ravens etc) that hade been released and we'd missed out on since 4th. We're clearly getting both now however. We've seen some new models and know more are on the way, and having codex supplement is equivalent to having your own codex in all but name. If the new rules does end up being poor, I'll tolerate it while waiting for 10th, but in the meantime we got Mr. L and others to tell us how to make it work until then * because the former signifies financial commitment on part of GW to a much larger degree, updating models also incentivises updating the rules well to maintain sales etc, and because the frequent update of rules in general means a bad batch (or good) might be quickly be replaced by the next... redmapa and Marshal Arthur 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brethren Durion Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Happy black templar monday everyone ! Let's hope to see the crusader squad or the Marshal today ! Or even the crusader squad ? Well wait and see, praise the emperor and hope for the three a once into an announcement for the box ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Hah! I am currently painting all three of those along with the chaplain from them. Edit: as a side note, the models arrive looking as clean and crisp as those pictures imply. Honestly unbelievable casting quality. Oh, absolutely, theirs are the best resins I've ever had the pleasure of working with. templargdt 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Bets on today's reveal? I'm feeling a Neophyte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hit0k1ri Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Bets on today's reveal? I'm feeling a Neophyte. Or Sword Brother . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARMASTER_ Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) Ironically, to make primaris crusader kits selling, the first thing GW need to do on rules is : nuke the 15pts classic crusader. If cheaper older unit exist, it will obviously harm the sale of primaris crusaders. I honestly doubt that you’d be surprised how little most of the player base cares about rules or at least competitive play and just loves new gorgeous models Especially after 16 ish years of waiting for some I would VERY much dispute that. That’s fair mate you’re welcome too, it’s been said many times but rules/points per unit change around twice an addition? and space marines always sell better than anything else by miles! doesn’t matter if they’re top/mid/bottom tier units because people love them more than any other faction (despite what you see in most comments under any GW post, a big example of loud minorities) Competitive players, especially forum/heavy internet hobby users can often mistake vocal minorities as the majority, but it’s not the case, most players play casually with friends or are in the hobby to collect or/and paint models not go and win tournaments or even win games If this release looks as good as I think it will it’ll fly off the shelves, as it should Edited August 30, 2021 by BladeOfVengeance Trignama and Sword Brother Adelard 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brethren Durion Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Bets on today's reveal? I'm feeling a Neophyte. Or Sword Brother . Both brothers in one big crusader squad ! And maybe with some sprue from the upgrade kit ? like some initiate with some witch bones on their shoulders ! After all they need to release the box in september. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARMASTER_ Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I’m hoping we see a neophyte today I’m looking forward to seeing how they’ve updated them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Do they usually announce stuff on UK public holidays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWORD BROTHER RYAN Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Man, I must be behind. BT Monday reveal(s)? Ok, feeling my heart beat a little faster, but also tempered by the past. Hoping to see anything, but a SB or another character would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradeh Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Do they usually announce stuff on UK public holidays? Marketing never stops! £££ WARMASTER_ 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 6.5 more hours! Sword bretheren are cool and all, but I wanna see neophytes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trignama Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Ironically, to make primaris crusader kits selling, the first thing GW need to do on rules is : nuke the 15pts classic crusader. If cheaper older unit exist, it will obviously harm the sale of primaris crusaders. I honestly doubt that you’d be surprised how little most of the player base cares about rules or at least competitive play and just loves new gorgeous models Especially after 16 ish years of waiting for some I would VERY much dispute that. Yeah, no, I have to agree with the others on that one ML, the tournament scene is actually much smaller than the pure hobbiest scene, like MUCH smaller lol. Sarvis 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I agree that the majority of fans buy the models before the rules. If rules really were the guiding light, you wouldn't see so many new BT players go straight out and buy Land Raider Crusaders. Casual Heresy and Trignama 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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