Wolf Lord Loki Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Hi guys On to the next part of the Unit of the Week (possibly fortnight). Lord of Contagion. There are 2 models out there. The original from the Dark Imperium and Lord Felthius Let's have your thoughts on what weapons it would be best to equip and how you would best use this glorious leader Iron Sage 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice4thedicegod Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 The standard loadout appears far superior to the felthius equipment. He’s basically typhus without the psionics, right? Possibly quite useful note that wrath of magnus would be a nasty secondary against us and abhor witch is looking more relevant for us currently. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5754403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irate Khornate Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Lord of Contagion still unavailable for purchase? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5754412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Lord of Contagion still unavailable for purchase? The Lord Felthius model is available direct from GW, they re-released him not that long ago. The sculpt from Dark Imperium is still unavailable. Iron Sage 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5754421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Loki Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) So bit of back ground on the Lord of Contagion Comes equipped as standard with just a plague reaper which is a massive double strength weapon that does 3 damage [this is the standard load out of the Dark Imperium model) This can be swapped for a Manreaper which is has two attack profiles a reaping cut (for more hits) and a piercing strike (more damage) And/ Or and orb of desiccation - which is a fancy one use grenade Standard load out of the Lord Felthius model In addition the Lord of Contagion also increases the range of his contagion abilities by 3" Edited October 19, 2021 by Wolf Lord Loki Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5755191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I prefer the dmg3 plague reaper. The manreaper is exactly the same as the weapon of a Deathshrould sergeant(also WS2+ and A5), sounds weird. Iron Sage 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5755203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingYertle Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Conceptually I like the Manreaper with its ability to Reap for 10 Attacks, and if you add on a pathogen for MW os 6s or MWs on kills he can be a real horde killer. But what keeps drawing me to this loadout is the OoD Grenade as it is the only way to get the LoC a ranged weapon. (Pathetically he has no Blight Grenades yet the LoV does). 3d3 Blast ap-1 D2, hitting on 2s, can be a nasty surprise vs MEQ. The grenade is a great target for the Blightening to get 6 Pistol shots at when locked in combat, or Overwhelming Generosity to toss the grenade 12 inches coming out of deep strike. Unfortunately, at 125 points he is not cheap, and in a world of 60 point murder elves who can one shot him in combat its a tough sell to add on expensive pathogens to his already high base cost. I do enjoy the +3 inches to his contagion range, which is far superior to the LoV +1AP on Ranged wound rolls of 6s IMO. Using the Strat to increase the Contagion Round, his T2 aura is a solid 9inches, which helps get good millage out of certain Contagions like Gloaming Bloat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5755522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Loki Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 So who would you accompany a Lord of Contagion with? My first thought is Blightlords, as the Deathshroud are killy enough and can aready boost their own contagion range. I suppose he could work with plague marines but some how feels off And poxwalkers well if you wanted him to be with them then why not take typhus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5756745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relentless Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 I usually stick him with a plaguecaster and whatever my biggest unit of terminators is and march him up midfield. Hit him with gift of plagues and he has a turn one 10in contagion range of gloaming bloat. Makes for a very annoying obstacle to avoid or try to kill. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5756902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Anything, maybe except for PBC. You need to move big blob of units towards center or close objective location. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5756908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Loki Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 Not a lot of love for the Lord of Contagion Is it because with so few upgrade options that it's a very point and click beat stick? Does anyone have suggestions for the upgrade plagues to give him or shall I move on to the next Unit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5757606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Officer Doofy Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) He's a melee beatstick in a faction with no charge mechanics whatsoever and a 5" move, and for 30 points more you can take a Daemon Prince. There are more and more HQ characters now that are damage 3 without the -1 to hit (like the previously mentioned Daemon Prince). I see very little reason to use one. The DI one is a cool model, but unless we get a charge mechanic mine will NEVER see the table. Edited October 26, 2021 by Putrid Choir Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5757618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 He is really good on durability with 2+ 4++ and 6w. And the most popular HQ choice in non-Morty tournament list. The thing made him better than a LoV is 3" more contagion. You don't need to make him work as some "beatstick". DG don't really need muscleman characters. KingYertle and Relentless 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5757688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Officer Doofy Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 You say that, but over 50% of my games are against shooty admech. Contagions don't do much. I need to kill his stuff asap because our "durability" is losing to codex creep. If I can't tag his stuff and start chopping it to bits, I'm not making it in the long run. But to each their own. Tournament lists do often include him. I personally rather pay 30 more points for the more killy Daemon Prince who can cast, deny, move more, higher toughness, more wounds, and more attacks. I'm curious to if/when they make the DI one available for purchase separately. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5757705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingYertle Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 The LoC is an expensive "beat-stick" that could benefit from a points reduction. A reduction of his points combined with an across the board reduction in the cost of Pathogens would make it a more interesting unit. I don't think we need a Charge Bonus Mechanic to make him viable. But I also Don't view him as a Herohammer unit that can go out on his own and kill stuff. IMO He excels at boosting Blightlords/Possessed with his re-roll and Contagion auras, and provides a deadly counter punch when your opponent try's to dislodge you from an objective in with melee. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5757763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Loki Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 What Pathogens work well with him? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5757959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 I suggest "none". If you really want to spent 20pts here, virulent fever is ok, especially on manreaper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5757966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amon777 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 In a non-morty list I like running both a DP and LoC. The manreaper is probably the better of the two options due to the flexibility. Combine with the orb it comes with the plague skull relic and you can deepstrike and do some good damage. I'll pair mine with blightlords who will also deepstrike unless I'm facing something like infiltrator spam. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5758054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague _Lord Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Why take a LoC when you can take Typhus and get a plethora of buffs like psychic powers, poxwalker buff, mortal wounds, better profile and better weapon. I see no sense in taking the LoC - his only use could be deepstriking with some terminators but then again you are counting on a 8'' charge with potentially no reroll (since you'd probably rather have those terminators stuck in). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5758061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Officer Doofy Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 9" charge from deepstrike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5758176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tychobi Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) Slow beat stick is slow and therefore irrelevant Edited October 28, 2021 by tychobi Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5758226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Sage Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 He's a melee beatstick in a faction with no charge mechanics whatsoever and a 5" move, and for 30 points more you can take a Daemon Prince. There are more and more HQ characters now that are damage 3 without the -1 to hit (like the previously mentioned Daemon Prince). I see very little reason to use one. The DI one is a cool model, but unless we get a charge mechanic mine will NEVER see the table. He is a difficult warlord to kill though. In my games, he usually never dies. Daemon Princes are more vulnerable. So if you fear your warlord being taken out, imo, he is a decent choice. But indeed, his main problem is the movement and the lack of a stratagem that boosts his charge. His profile is really good though and his weapon is quite fearsome too. Like @Tokugawa, I prefer the Plaguereaper. But in all honesty, I have only used the Felthus model once, and MCB82 has a point with the grenade I suppose. But I prefer the Dark Imperium config at this moment in time. As for who he accompanies, that tends to be a unit of blightlords usually. But in games where I have taken both him and a daemon prince, I always make him a warlord for resilience purposes. Unless I play with Mortarion, but then I can't afford both him and a DP anyway... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372019-unit-of-the-week-series-lord-of-contagion/#findComment-5760016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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