Silas7 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) This OP would have made a great poll. Why doesn't B&C have polls? No I didn't get the box, if ya gonna charge me starter set prices I expect starter set quality/quantity. Edited February 14, 2022 by Silas7 Plaguecaster 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 This OP would have made a great poll. Why doesn't B&C have polls? No I didn't get the box, if ya gonna charge me starter set prices I expect starter set quality/quantity. B&C does have polls - check the right hand side when starting a new topic! I got the box at 20% off and I'm happy with that. I don't really need more rangers, but I love eldar models, so these will get the sword/pistol options to differentiate them from other models. Warpsmith and fiend will go to my iron warriors. Silas7 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazSexington Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 15% off, split the sets with a mate. If it's Codex Dinobots, I'll get the Fiend up and running. As it stands, I've got a plethora of Chosen already! Iron Father Ferrum 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uprising Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 My CSM and friends (titans, Knights, R&H, Daemons) are my largest and beloved 40k force, but I can not justify if. I been looking around ebay and I am not willing to pay on average $110 for 7 models. They are nice, but I think I will pass. I been downsizing anyway, and spending my hobby money on other items as of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Just ordered the chaos half on ebay - waited until it was off of preorder which let it come down in price some. Got a bit of a deal off of what they will likely be full price. Tallarn Commander and Iron Father Ferrum 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Danjou Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Got it from my FLGS with a nice discount, i think 15% off. As I am re-starting CSM, Iron Warriors, I can use everything on the chaos side, my friend who play Eldar wanted everything so it was a nice box for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) I let the box go. The chosen models themselves really don't stand out enough for me and the Warpsmith is a little too much like the Primaris Tech marine for my tastes. But certain bits for both kits are good and I'll likely ebay those. The main factor in my decision though was the small amount of models inside the box. Especially when Shadowspear was 180$ and had the same amount of models in the chaos half alone. With both of them on my desk I can safely say that the Primaris Techmarine is nothing like the new Warpsmith. If anything the mechadendrites on the Primaris techmarine are ripped off the finecast Warpsmith. Shadowspear models actually were monopose and had no options, so really no comparable. Where's the monopose? It's just the legs/torso that's in one piece. Plenty of room to work with! Words have no meaning anymore. Combo the new weapons with the new regular marines and the starter set and you have as many poses as you want and better than anything out of the old kits. I gave it a pass. I already have converted a number of models I can use as Chosen, and my home-made models have more character and fit better to my army and background than the new Chosen. I already have all the demon engines, so was not interested in another Fiend. And since the Warpsmith is just a lazy imitation of the Loyalist one, just with extra trim (it even has the same pose!), I decided to convert and create my own. And in the process, I also have saved a lot of money. I personally was a bit disappointed by this release, if I am honest. I agree with those of you that say it was a bit lazy, at least for the Chaos side. Converted and scratch built chaos stuff is the best chaos stuff but the new chosen have some good bits on the sprues so judging their 'characterfulness' by the box art seems odd. The bare heads are pretty good, look a lot more like what CSM are supposed to look like than the older kits. Edited February 15, 2022 by Closet Skeleton TwinOcted 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Picked mine up today. First thought, unbidden, was “how in the hell can something this light cost $200?” Picked it up mainly for the Chosen and Warpsmith, but having actually seen the Chosen in person…those are getting sold off. Everything about them feels awkward and kind of half-baked. Vastly inferior to the basic Chaos Marine set on pretty much every level. Ah, well, more or less ends up meaning a free Warpsmith, which is quite a nice model. Could be worse, but, damn, this boxed set could have been a whole lot better for that cost. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 I really like the kit, but I do wish it was a unit of 10 instead of 5. Silas7, Dosjetka and WrathOfTheLion 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 I like the Chosen set. I haven't built then so actually piecing some together might change my mind of course, but they've got a good selection of bits and they're more bling-y enough to come off as more elite than the base Troop models. It's not all good, of course. Frex, the dynamic posing of the stock dual-claw guy looks weird, but overall I'm happy with the kit. WrathOfTheLion, Silas7 and Khornestar 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danosborne Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I built the chosen today, they’re beautiful, can’t wait to put a brush on them. I went with rule of cool for the loadout because I didn’t want to wait and find out what the optimal is going to be. Also, there’s plenty of spares on the sprue which could easily be used for conversion fodder. Bloody Legionnaire, WrathOfTheLion, Khornestar and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) Just built a unit of 5 Terminators for my Black Legion and I'm now tearing into the Eldritch Omens models. I am loving the Warpsmith model.. super cool sculpt and its been fun to build. I'm very torn on the Chosen and how I want to equip them. I think it's safe to say in the next CSM codex that special-weapon equipped chosen will be a thing. I'd like to have at least one unit equipped with special weapons in a TSS-esque unit. Part of me wants to wait until the codex comes out before I start equipping them as they come in the EO box. I'm partially leaning towards building the TSS style Chosen right now with 4 specials and 1 heavy (or 5 specials) and then picking up another set of chosen from ebay or something and building those up once the codex drops. I could alternatively build them as the instructions states and pick up the extra set from ebay to make them into TSS-Chosen later on. Any feedback? I'm sure the most common answer I'll get is "hey, magnetize!" I just don't know if I really want to do all that work for the flexibility. I built the chosen today, they’re beautiful, can’t wait to put a brush on them. I went with rule of cool for the loadout because I didn’t want to wait and find out what the optimal is going to be. Also, there’s plenty of spares on the sprue which could easily be used for conversion fodder. How'd you like the build? How'd you end up equipping yours? I haven't snipped them from the spure yet, but I haven't really noticed a size difference between them, DV Chosen, and nu-CSM yet.. It seems they are just more ornate than nu-CSM Edited February 18, 2022 by Bloody Legionnaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) Personally I'd just wait if you don't want to magnetise, which is what I'm doing. Given changes that we've seen in other books, the issue is less "what will be good" and more "will (x) loadout even be legal" (e.g. there are no heavy weapons in the box - will they still be able to take one? There are no plasma guns in the box, only combi-plasmas - will they still be able to take plasma guns?). If you want to build them now, stick to what's in the box imo. Edited February 18, 2022 by Marshal Loss Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) Personally I'd just wait if you don't want to magnetise, which is what I'm doing. Given changes that we've seen in other books, the issue is less "what will be good" and more "will (x) loadout even be legal" (e.g. there are no heavy weapons in the box).So, these chosen of course have the data sheet out on their instructions. The data sheets on instructions have been a fairly good indicator this past edition as what the “new” changes are going to be before a codex is released. I’m not concerned about what may not be legal if we see it as an option on the instruction’s data sheet. Random side topic.. I now really have high hopes/expectations for what Khorne Berzerkwrs are going to look like after examining the chainaxes included with the Chosen kit. Edited February 18, 2022 by Bloody Legionnaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Personally I'd just wait if you don't want to magnetise, which is what I'm doing. Given changes that we've seen in other books, the issue is less "what will be good" and more "will (x) loadout even be legal" (e.g. there are no heavy weapons in the box). So, these chosen of course have the data sheet out on their instructions. The data sheets on instructions have been a fairly good indicator this past edition as what the “new” changes are going to be before a codex is released. I’m not concerned about what may not be legal if we see it as an option on the instruction’s data sheet. It's the old datasheet, not the new one. It tells us nothing about what's going to change for them in the 9th ed codex. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kythnos Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Personally I'd just wait if you don't want to magnetise, which is what I'm doing. Given changes that we've seen in other books, the issue is less "what will be good" and more "will (x) loadout even be legal" (e.g. there are no heavy weapons in the box).So, these chosen of course have the data sheet out on their instructions. The data sheets on instructions have been a fairly good indicator this past edition as what the “new” changes are going to be before a codex is released. I’m not concerned about what may not be legal if we see it as an option on the instruction’s data sheet. It is the current data sheet (e.g. look at the wounds profile) and is not related to the options in the new codex. The rumours for those are very different from the data sheet in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danosborne Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) Just built a unit of 5 Terminators for my Black Legion and I'm now tearing into the Eldritch Omens models. I am loving the Warpsmith model.. super cool sculpt and its been fun to build. I'm very torn on the Chosen and how I want to equip them. I think it's safe to say in the next CSM codex that special-weapon equipped chosen will be a thing. I'd like to have at least one unit equipped with special weapons in a TSS-esque unit. Part of me wants to wait until the codex comes out before I start equipping them as they come in the EO box. I'm partially leaning towards building the TSS style Chosen right now with 4 specials and 1 heavy (or 5 specials) and then picking up another set of chosen from ebay or something and building those up once the codex drops. I could alternatively build them as the instructions states and pick up the extra set from ebay to make them into TSS-Chosen later on. Any feedback? I'm sure the most common answer I'll get is "hey, magnetize!" I just don't know if I really want to do all that work for the flexibility. I built the chosen today, they’re beautiful, can’t wait to put a brush on them. I went with rule of cool for the loadout because I didn’t want to wait and find out what the optimal is going to be. Also, there’s plenty of spares on the sprue which could easily be used for conversion fodder.How'd you like the build? How'd you end up equipping yours? I haven't snipped them from the spure yet, but I haven't really noticed a size difference between them, DV Chosen, and nu-CSM yet.. It seems they are just more ornate than nu-CSM I did a twin lightning claws guy, Mail on the champ, a combi melta and 2 dudes with plasma pistols and power weapons. Purely for rule of cool, I’m sure they’ll be terrible as a unit for rules but hey, they look cool! Edited February 19, 2022 by Danosborne Prot and Tallarn Commander 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) Hey with any luck they’ll be so bad you never use them and there’s no downside to building them however you want! (Totally joking). It is hard resisting the urge to do the same. Edited February 19, 2022 by Khornestar Tallarn Commander 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antarius Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 I originally gave it a pass, but I ended up buying the Chaos half of the set for roughly 50 GBP. As the Forgefiend alone is 45 GBP, I kinda persuaded myself into getting it by thinking of it as the Chosen and Warpsmith being only 5 GBP once I'd bought the Forgefiend :) Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 Okay… I was really wanting to put these guys together so I thought I would ask here what the feeling was on the chosen. I’m unsure what to build but I see no one is really doing much with the chosen ? Are you just putting them aside for a few months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Okay… I was really wanting to put these guys together so I thought I would ask here what the feeling was on the chosen. I’m unsure what to build but I see no one is really doing much with the chosen ? Are you just putting them aside for a few months? Pretty much, yeah. Pile of shame is massive so no shortage of things to build until then. :P Prot and Marshal Loss 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted February 20, 2022 Author Share Posted February 20, 2022 Okay so. Guess I’ll put together the warp smith since nothing is variable there. Lol Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mittens Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 I ended up ordering the chosen and warp Smith from Ebay, as I plan on painting my black legion after I do my deathguard. Over priced, to be sure, but the extra bits will be good for use on my normal chaos models too. I have the older plastic chosen already, so probably have enough chosen models too not need more. Khornestar and Prot 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesalius Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 I just went ahead and built my chosen and warpsmith. I just play with friends and family, so WYSIWYG is not an issue. Tallarn Commander, Khornestar and Isengrin 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternus Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Picked up the box, swapped the eldar half for another chaos half so didn't feel too bad overall, esp since I had no fiends at all and now have two, along with 10 chosen and 2 warpsmiths for only about £20 more than the fiends would have been on their own. Am slightly disappointed with the chosen instructions though, especially in regards to the bolters/chainswords that go on the backpacks. It seems 3 of the 5 backpacks have specific ones that they go with (including one backpack which works for either bolter or chainsword) but the instructions don't show this at all, so took a while to figure out. Hopefully in their own box the instructions would be slightly improved. Now just trying to work out whether I want to build the fiends as one of each, or double up on one style! What have people found works for them? Extra multi-dmg shooting or a good counterattack unit? Dr_Ruminahui, Silas7 and Khornestar 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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