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Just now, Mechanicus Tech-Support said:

So if its 480 and they had to split it..we would have been looking at book bigger than Magos :blink:..Part of me kind of wishes they left it as one brick of a tome

The limited editions’ binding couldn’t cope with the size of Echoes/Mortis. Lots of people had loose/torn hinges. A 900 page book would be falling apart from the moment you held it in your hands :laugh:

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4 hours ago, Mechanicus Tech-Support said:

So if its 480 and they had to split it..we would have been looking at book bigger than Magos :blink:..Part of me kind of wishes they left it as one brick of a tome

 

4 hours ago, cheywood said:

The limited editions’ binding couldn’t cope with the size of Echoes/Mortis. Lots of people had loose/torn hinges. A 900 page book would be falling apart from the moment you held it in your hands :laugh:

 

I walked over to my book shelf and noticed my paperback copy of the Crippled god is almost 1200 pages. It's not falling apart and is a pretty comfortable size.

 

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And my hardbacks of Dance of Dragons and A Memory of Light are both 900+ pages and going strong. And those were both books that were planned as one and got split into smaller components. 

 

A final book in a long running series can be big, both narratively and physically. Black library ain't pioneering nothing.

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25 minutes ago, SkimaskMohawk said:

 

 

I walked over to my book shelf and noticed my paperback copy of the Crippled god is almost 1200 pages. It's not falling apart and is a pretty comfortable size.

 

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And my hardbacks of Dance of Dragons and A Memory of Light are both 900+ pages and going strong. And those were both books that were planned as one and got split into smaller components. 

 

A final book in a long running series can be big, both narratively and physically. Black library ain't pioneering nothing.

I’m aware BL isn’t publishing the longest books in the history of printing. I know I read mostly e-books but I have been to a bookstore or two before! What I meant was that there’s been a noticeable decrease in the quality of BL’s limited editions with the longer siege novels specifically. This lack of quality doesn’t seem to apply to BL’s other limited editions, so I think the length of the books, coupled with the heavy gloss pages of the illustrations, weakens the bindings. Thus my comment. 

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14 minutes ago, cheywood said:

I’m aware BL isn’t publishing the longest books in the history of printing. I know I read mostly e-books but I have been to a bookstore or two before! What I meant was that there’s been a noticeable decrease in the quality of BL’s limited editions with the longer siege novels specifically. This lack of quality doesn’t seem to apply to BL’s other limited editions, so I think the length of the books, coupled with the heavy gloss pages of the illustrations, weakens the bindings. Thus my comment. 

 

Yea it was more of a comment of BL just milking the collectors off multiple release waves, rather than a big book being impossible for them. 

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3 hours ago, SkimaskMohawk said:

 

Yea it was more of a comment of BL just milking the collectors off multiple release waves, rather than a big book being impossible for them. 

Not just collector's, making a 1- or 2 part book 2-3 parts milks everyone, from book readers to audiobook listeners. And its not just milking, putting out substandard product when you know your current binding method cant support the book size is dodgy to say the least. 

Krelious Battle-Brother

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On 2/3/2023 at 10:29 PM, SkimaskMohawk said:

 

Yea it was more of a comment of BL just milking the collectors off multiple release waves, rather than a big book being impossible for them. 

Id hope that maybe when part 2 releases GW has something special planned for the fans. Its taken what, 17 years to finish this series? Maybe a message from all the authors would be nice.

At the end of the day I dont think they make much money off the CE's because they have to pay to make them, pay the authors, pay the shipping companies, pay for marketing etc. Their profits from book sales must be piddling while also I think they pay a portion to charities as well. I think really they make the CE's for the fans, and for scalpers to make money.

 

You can see on ebay often people are paying $300-$600 for some CE's and it would be easy for GW to charge that money upfront if they wanted to as I dont think theres anything illegal about setting a high price based on what people are willing to pay. I mean if GW charged $200 for all the Siege of Terra CE's they would still sell like hotcakes and they could always tell you to buy the standard edition if you dont like it. I often dont side with corporations but i feel like GW is kind of doing us a favour by selling CE's at the price they do.

 

Compare that to say Blizzard Entertainment selling a collector's edition of Diablo 4 that doesnt even contain the actual game.

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1 hour ago, Krelious said:

Id hope that maybe when part 2 releases GW has something special planned for the fans. Its taken what, 17 years to finish this series? Maybe a message from all the authors would be nice.

At the end of the day I dont think they make much money off the CE's because they have to pay to make them, pay the authors, pay the shipping companies, pay for marketing etc. Their profits from book sales must be piddling while also I think they pay a portion to charities as well. I think really they make the CE's for the fans, and for scalpers to make money.

 

You can see on ebay often people are paying $300-$600 for some CE's and it would be easy for GW to charge that money upfront if they wanted to as I dont think theres anything illegal about setting a high price based on what people are willing to pay. I mean if GW charged $200 for all the Siege of Terra CE's they would still sell like hotcakes and they could always tell you to buy the standard edition if you dont like it. I often dont side with corporations but i feel like GW is kind of doing us a favour by selling CE's at the price they do.

 

Compare that to say Blizzard Entertainment selling a collector's edition of Diablo 4 that doesnt even contain the actual game.

I would like to see an omnibus of book 8 at some point.  Other than that, baring in mind collectors have been investing in an established limited edition format for the siege, I wouldn't want to buy anything else 'extra' unless it included something truly worthwhile, e.g. a retrospective of the Siege written by an editor or a siege author detailing the planning and writing process.  

 

So with all that said, expect a 'mega edition' of the final book in the Siege replete with an extra short story (not available anywhere else, detailing the Emperor's last conversation before his entombment) alongside a Custodes dice bag, and a sticker with John Grammatacus' mugshot on it.  All for the low low price of £95!

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4 hours ago, Krelious said:

Id hope that maybe when part 2 releases GW has something special planned for the fans. Its taken what, 17 years to finish this series?

Hahahaha. The best we gonna get is a WarComm article, that manages to say absolutely nothing with too many words, oh and it's on pre order soon!

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Per r/40k lore, Fnatic had a excerpt for the french version, up for a bit.

 

The dramatis personae is ducking long!
 

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~ DRAMATIS PERSONAE ~
L’EMPEREUR – Maître de l’Humanité, Dernier et Premier Seigneur de l’Imperium
HORUS LUPERCAL – Maître de Guerre de l’Imperium, réceptacle ascendant du Panthéon
Les défenseurs de Terra
MALCADOR LE SIGILLITE – Régent de l’Imperium
CONSTANTIN VALDOR – Capitaine-général de la Legio Custodes
Les primarques loyalistes
ROGAL DORN – Le Prétorien de Terra, Primarque de la VIIe Légion
SANGUINIUS – Le Grand Ange, Primarque de la IXe Légion
VULKAN – Le Dernier Gardien, Primarque de la XVIIIe Légion
La Legio Custodes
DIOCLETIAN COROS – Tribun
ARCATUS VINDIX CENTURIO – L’Aigle de l’Empereur
IOS RAJA – Compagnon Hetaeron
HARAHEL – Édile-maréchal, gardien de la Sodalité de la Clé
SHUKRA – Compagnon, gardien de la Sodalité de la Clé
CAECALTUS DUSK – Proconsul Hetaeron
UZKAREL OPHITE – Proconsul Hetaeron
DOLO LAMORA – Compagnon-sentinelle
KLIOTAN – Gardien-sentinelle
ARZACH – Préfet-capitaine
CAZADRIS – Gardien-sentinelle
KINTARA – Compagnon Hetaeron
DAMORSAR – Capitaine-rempart
KRYSMURTHI – Hykanatoi
AVENDRO – Capitaine-rempart
TELEMONIS – Maréchal d’ost
CAERCIL – Compagnon
TYRASK – Sentinelle
SYSTRATUS – Sentinelle
ESTRAEL – Compagnon
GELIDEN – Sentinelle
ASTRICOL – Compagnon
VALIQUE – Sentinelle
MENDOLIS – Sentinelle
VANTIX – Capitaine-compagnon
HELIAD – Compagnon Hetaeron
AMALFI – Capitaine-rempart
ENTAERON – Vestarios
JUSTINIUS – Sentinelle
LUDOVICUS – Proconsul Hykanatoi
SYMARCANTIS – Gardien
XADOPHUS – Compagnon-gardien
FRASTUS – Compagnon
ANDOLEN – Préfet-compagnon
KAREDO – Tharanatoi (Hetaeron)
RAVENGAST – Compagnon Hetaeron
BRAXIUS – Compagnon Hetaeron
TAURID – Sentinelle Hetaeron
NMEMBO – Compagnon Hetaeron
ZAGRUS – Hykanatoi (Hetaeron)
AMON TAUROMACHIAN – Custodien
Les Sœurs du Silence
KAERIA CASRYN – Chevalier de l’Oubli, cadre des Renards d’Acier
MOZI DODOMA – Sœur Vigilator
VEDIA – Sœur veilleuse
Les Élus de Malcador
KHALID HASSAN
ZARANCHEK XANTHUS
MORIANA MOUHAUSEN
GALLENT SIDOZIE
GARVIEL LOKEN – Le Loup Solitaire
HELIG GALLOR – Chevalier Errant
Officiers et seigneurs militants de la cour de guerre
SANDRINE ICARO – Maîtresse Tacticae en second de la Terrestria
ILYA RAVALLION – Stratège
JONAS GASTON – Subalterne
Seigneurs du Conseil de Terra et seigneurs cardinaux
ZAGREUS KANE – Le Fabricator en exil
NEMO ZHI-MENG – Maître de chœur de l’Astra Telepathica
EIRECH HALFERPHESS – Astrotelegraphica Exulta de la Tour Suprême

La VIIe Légion, les Imperial Fists
ARCHAMUS – Maître des Huscarls
VORST – Capitaine vétéran
FAFNIR RANN – Seigneur Sénéchal, Capitaine du 1er Cadre d’Assaut
FISK HALEN – Capitaine, 19e Compagnie Tactique
VAL TARCHOS – Sergent, 19e Compagnie Tactique
MAXIMUS THANE – Capitaine, 22e Compagnie des Exemplars
LEOD BALDWIN
BRASTAS – Capitaine
CALODIN
LIGNIS
BEDWYR
CORTAMUS
DEVARLIN
MIZOS
La Ve Légion, les White Scars
SHIBAN – Khan, dénommé « Tachseer »
GANZORIG – Noyan-khan
JANGSAÏ – Khan
CHAKAJA – Devin de l’Orage
YIMAN
ATRAÏ
SOJUK – Khan
ZHINTAS – Khan
GAHAKI – Khan des Burgediin Sarhvu
AINBATAAR – Khan
NAMAHI – Maître de la Keshig
La IXe Légion, les Blood Angels
RALDORON – Premier Capitaine, 1er chapitre
AZKAELLON – Héraut de la Garde Sanguinienne
TAERWELT IKASATI – Garde Sanguinien
ZEPHON – Capitaine, « le Porteur de Tourments »
NASSIR AMIT – « Le Déchireur de Chair »
SARODON SACRE
MAHELDARON
ZEALIS VARENS
KRYSTAPH KRYSTAPHEROS
RINAS DOL
KYSTOS GAELLON
KHOTUS MEFFIEL
SATEL AIMERY
KHORADAL FURIO
EMHON LUX
Les Légions Brisées
ABIDEMI – Draaksward, XVIIIe Légion, les Salamanders
ARI’I – Gardien du Brasier, XVIIIe Légion, les Salamanders
MA’ULA – Maître des sceaux, XVIIIe Légion, les Salamanders
HEMA – Sergent, XVIIIe Légion, les Salamanders
BÖDVAR BJARKI – VIe Légion, les Space Wolves
KRATOZ – Centurion de fer de lance, Xe Légion, les Iron Hands
KHRYSAOR – Sergent d’armes, Xe Légion, les Iron Hands
La Ire Légion, les Dark Angels
CORSWAIN – Seigneur sénéchal, le Dogue de Caliban
ADOPHEL – Maître de chapitre
TRAGAN – Capitaine du neuvième ordre
VORLOIS
BRUKTAS
HARLOCK
BLAMIRES
VANITAL
ERLORIAL
CARLOI
ASRADAËL
TANDERION
CARTHEUS
ZAHARIEL
La maison Vyronii
ACASTIA – Femme-lige, pilote du Chevalier Armiger Elatus
L’Armée Impériale (Excertus, Auxilia et autres)
ALDANA AGATHE – Maréchale, Miles Vesperi d’Antioch
ALDANA AGATHE – Maréchale, Miles Vesperi d’Antioch
PHIKES – Son adjudant
MIKHAIL – Capitaine, 403e des Stratiotes de Nécessité
JERA TALMADA – Colonelle, corps logistique
LANTRY ZHAN – Observateur avancé, 5e PanCon
MARTINEAUX – Capitaine de horte
SKLATER – Sire-militant
HETIN GULTAN – Sergent, Horte Royale Zanzibari
KUCHER
DERRY CASSIER – Servant subalterne
NAHINA PRAFFET – Caporale, 467e excertus de Tanzir
N’JIE – Capitaine, Artilleurs Légers kovingiens
ET D’AUTRES
Le Prefectus
AHLBORN – Capitaine de conroi, Horte Palatine (unité Prefectus de commandement)
STIGLICH – Horte Palatine
HELLICK MAUER – Boétharque
L’ordre des interrogateurs
KYRIL SINDERMANN
LEETA TANG
Le Conclave des Citoyens
EUPHRATI KEELER
EILD
PEREVANNA
WEREFT
KATSUHIRO
L’Ost Renégat
La XVIe Légion, les Sons of Horus
EZEKYLE ABADDON – Premier capitaine
KINOR ARGONIS – Écuyer du Maître de Guerre Lupercal
ULNOK – Écuyer du Premier Capitaine
AZELAS BARAXA – Capitaine, 2e compagnie
ITHA CLATHIS – 2e compagnie
KALTOS – 2e compagnie
TARCHESE MALABREUX – Maître des Ravageurs Catuléens
HELLAS SYCAR – Maître des Justaerin
TARAS BALT – Capitaine, 3e compagnie
TYRO GAMEX – 3e compagnie
VORUS IKARI – Capitaine, 4e compagnie
XHOFAR BERUDDIN – Capitaine, 5e compagnie
EKRON FAL – Centurion, Justaerin
LYCAS FYTON – Capitaine, 7e compagnie
KALINTUS – Capitaine, 9e compagnie
SELGAR DORGADDON – Capitaine, 10e compagnie
ZISTRION – Capitaine, 13e compagnie
La XIVe Légion, la Death Guard
TYPHUS – Premier capitaine
SEROB KARGUL – Seigneur Contemptor
VORX – Seigneur du Silence
KADEX ILKARION
CAIPHA MORARG
MELPHIOR CRAW
SKULIDAS GEHRERG
La XVIIe Légion, les Word Bearers
SOR TALGRON
BARTHUSA NAREK
La VIIIe Légion, les Night Lords
KHAGASHU
Le Mechanicum Noir
CLAIN PENT – Cinquième disciple de Nul
EYET-UN-TAG – Locutrice de l’union connectée du campement Epta
Autres
BASILIO FO – Criminel de guerre
ANDROMEDA-17 – Selenar
Les compagnons au long cours
OLL PERSSON – Perpétuel
JOHN GRAMMATICUS – Logokine
KATT – Psyker non assermentée
HEBET ZYBES – Ouvrier journalier
DOGENT KRANK – Soldat
GRAFT – Servitor agricole
ACTAE – Prophétesse
ALPHARIUS
LEUDE – Proto-Astartes

 

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8 hours ago, System Sound said:

Per r/40k lore, Fnatic had a excerpt for the french version, up for a bit.

 

The dramatis personae is ducking long!
 

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~ DRAMATIS PERSONAE ~
L’EMPEREUR – Maître de l’Humanité, Dernier et Premier Seigneur de l’Imperium
HORUS LUPERCAL – Maître de Guerre de l’Imperium, réceptacle ascendant du Panthéon
Les défenseurs de Terra
MALCADOR LE SIGILLITE – Régent de l’Imperium
CONSTANTIN VALDOR – Capitaine-général de la Legio Custodes
Les primarques loyalistes
ROGAL DORN – Le Prétorien de Terra, Primarque de la VIIe Légion
SANGUINIUS – Le Grand Ange, Primarque de la IXe Légion
VULKAN – Le Dernier Gardien, Primarque de la XVIIIe Légion
La Legio Custodes
DIOCLETIAN COROS – Tribun
ARCATUS VINDIX CENTURIO – L’Aigle de l’Empereur
IOS RAJA – Compagnon Hetaeron
HARAHEL – Édile-maréchal, gardien de la Sodalité de la Clé
SHUKRA – Compagnon, gardien de la Sodalité de la Clé
CAECALTUS DUSK – Proconsul Hetaeron
UZKAREL OPHITE – Proconsul Hetaeron
DOLO LAMORA – Compagnon-sentinelle
KLIOTAN – Gardien-sentinelle
ARZACH – Préfet-capitaine
CAZADRIS – Gardien-sentinelle
KINTARA – Compagnon Hetaeron
DAMORSAR – Capitaine-rempart
KRYSMURTHI – Hykanatoi
AVENDRO – Capitaine-rempart
TELEMONIS – Maréchal d’ost
CAERCIL – Compagnon
TYRASK – Sentinelle
SYSTRATUS – Sentinelle
ESTRAEL – Compagnon
GELIDEN – Sentinelle
ASTRICOL – Compagnon
VALIQUE – Sentinelle
MENDOLIS – Sentinelle
VANTIX – Capitaine-compagnon
HELIAD – Compagnon Hetaeron
AMALFI – Capitaine-rempart
ENTAERON – Vestarios
JUSTINIUS – Sentinelle
LUDOVICUS – Proconsul Hykanatoi
SYMARCANTIS – Gardien
XADOPHUS – Compagnon-gardien
FRASTUS – Compagnon
ANDOLEN – Préfet-compagnon
KAREDO – Tharanatoi (Hetaeron)
RAVENGAST – Compagnon Hetaeron
BRAXIUS – Compagnon Hetaeron
TAURID – Sentinelle Hetaeron
NMEMBO – Compagnon Hetaeron
ZAGRUS – Hykanatoi (Hetaeron)
AMON TAUROMACHIAN – Custodien
Les Sœurs du Silence
KAERIA CASRYN – Chevalier de l’Oubli, cadre des Renards d’Acier
MOZI DODOMA – Sœur Vigilator
VEDIA – Sœur veilleuse
Les Élus de Malcador
KHALID HASSAN
ZARANCHEK XANTHUS
MORIANA MOUHAUSEN
GALLENT SIDOZIE
GARVIEL LOKEN – Le Loup Solitaire
HELIG GALLOR – Chevalier Errant
Officiers et seigneurs militants de la cour de guerre
SANDRINE ICARO – Maîtresse Tacticae en second de la Terrestria
ILYA RAVALLION – Stratège
JONAS GASTON – Subalterne
Seigneurs du Conseil de Terra et seigneurs cardinaux
ZAGREUS KANE – Le Fabricator en exil
NEMO ZHI-MENG – Maître de chœur de l’Astra Telepathica
EIRECH HALFERPHESS – Astrotelegraphica Exulta de la Tour Suprême

La VIIe Légion, les Imperial Fists
ARCHAMUS – Maître des Huscarls
VORST – Capitaine vétéran
FAFNIR RANN – Seigneur Sénéchal, Capitaine du 1er Cadre d’Assaut
FISK HALEN – Capitaine, 19e Compagnie Tactique
VAL TARCHOS – Sergent, 19e Compagnie Tactique
MAXIMUS THANE – Capitaine, 22e Compagnie des Exemplars
LEOD BALDWIN
BRASTAS – Capitaine
CALODIN
LIGNIS
BEDWYR
CORTAMUS
DEVARLIN
MIZOS
La Ve Légion, les White Scars
SHIBAN – Khan, dénommé « Tachseer »
GANZORIG – Noyan-khan
JANGSAÏ – Khan
CHAKAJA – Devin de l’Orage
YIMAN
ATRAÏ
SOJUK – Khan
ZHINTAS – Khan
GAHAKI – Khan des Burgediin Sarhvu
AINBATAAR – Khan
NAMAHI – Maître de la Keshig
La IXe Légion, les Blood Angels
RALDORON – Premier Capitaine, 1er chapitre
AZKAELLON – Héraut de la Garde Sanguinienne
TAERWELT IKASATI – Garde Sanguinien
ZEPHON – Capitaine, « le Porteur de Tourments »
NASSIR AMIT – « Le Déchireur de Chair »
SARODON SACRE
MAHELDARON
ZEALIS VARENS
KRYSTAPH KRYSTAPHEROS
RINAS DOL
KYSTOS GAELLON
KHOTUS MEFFIEL
SATEL AIMERY
KHORADAL FURIO
EMHON LUX
Les Légions Brisées
ABIDEMI – Draaksward, XVIIIe Légion, les Salamanders
ARI’I – Gardien du Brasier, XVIIIe Légion, les Salamanders
MA’ULA – Maître des sceaux, XVIIIe Légion, les Salamanders
HEMA – Sergent, XVIIIe Légion, les Salamanders
BÖDVAR BJARKI – VIe Légion, les Space Wolves
KRATOZ – Centurion de fer de lance, Xe Légion, les Iron Hands
KHRYSAOR – Sergent d’armes, Xe Légion, les Iron Hands
La Ire Légion, les Dark Angels
CORSWAIN – Seigneur sénéchal, le Dogue de Caliban
ADOPHEL – Maître de chapitre
TRAGAN – Capitaine du neuvième ordre
VORLOIS
BRUKTAS
HARLOCK
BLAMIRES
VANITAL
ERLORIAL
CARLOI
ASRADAËL
TANDERION
CARTHEUS
ZAHARIEL
La maison Vyronii
ACASTIA – Femme-lige, pilote du Chevalier Armiger Elatus
L’Armée Impériale (Excertus, Auxilia et autres)
ALDANA AGATHE – Maréchale, Miles Vesperi d’Antioch
ALDANA AGATHE – Maréchale, Miles Vesperi d’Antioch
PHIKES – Son adjudant
MIKHAIL – Capitaine, 403e des Stratiotes de Nécessité
JERA TALMADA – Colonelle, corps logistique
LANTRY ZHAN – Observateur avancé, 5e PanCon
MARTINEAUX – Capitaine de horte
SKLATER – Sire-militant
HETIN GULTAN – Sergent, Horte Royale Zanzibari
KUCHER
DERRY CASSIER – Servant subalterne
NAHINA PRAFFET – Caporale, 467e excertus de Tanzir
N’JIE – Capitaine, Artilleurs Légers kovingiens
ET D’AUTRES
Le Prefectus
AHLBORN – Capitaine de conroi, Horte Palatine (unité Prefectus de commandement)
STIGLICH – Horte Palatine
HELLICK MAUER – Boétharque
L’ordre des interrogateurs
KYRIL SINDERMANN
LEETA TANG
Le Conclave des Citoyens
EUPHRATI KEELER
EILD
PEREVANNA
WEREFT
KATSUHIRO
L’Ost Renégat
La XVIe Légion, les Sons of Horus
EZEKYLE ABADDON – Premier capitaine
KINOR ARGONIS – Écuyer du Maître de Guerre Lupercal
ULNOK – Écuyer du Premier Capitaine
AZELAS BARAXA – Capitaine, 2e compagnie
ITHA CLATHIS – 2e compagnie
KALTOS – 2e compagnie
TARCHESE MALABREUX – Maître des Ravageurs Catuléens
HELLAS SYCAR – Maître des Justaerin
TARAS BALT – Capitaine, 3e compagnie
TYRO GAMEX – 3e compagnie
VORUS IKARI – Capitaine, 4e compagnie
XHOFAR BERUDDIN – Capitaine, 5e compagnie
EKRON FAL – Centurion, Justaerin
LYCAS FYTON – Capitaine, 7e compagnie
KALINTUS – Capitaine, 9e compagnie
SELGAR DORGADDON – Capitaine, 10e compagnie
ZISTRION – Capitaine, 13e compagnie
La XIVe Légion, la Death Guard
TYPHUS – Premier capitaine
SEROB KARGUL – Seigneur Contemptor
VORX – Seigneur du Silence
KADEX ILKARION
CAIPHA MORARG
MELPHIOR CRAW
SKULIDAS GEHRERG
La XVIIe Légion, les Word Bearers
SOR TALGRON
BARTHUSA NAREK
La VIIIe Légion, les Night Lords
KHAGASHU
Le Mechanicum Noir
CLAIN PENT – Cinquième disciple de Nul
EYET-UN-TAG – Locutrice de l’union connectée du campement Epta
Autres
BASILIO FO – Criminel de guerre
ANDROMEDA-17 – Selenar
Les compagnons au long cours
OLL PERSSON – Perpétuel
JOHN GRAMMATICUS – Logokine
KATT – Psyker non assermentée
HEBET ZYBES – Ouvrier journalier
DOGENT KRANK – Soldat
GRAFT – Servitor agricole
ACTAE – Prophétesse
ALPHARIUS
LEUDE – Proto-Astartes

 

 

Was about to post the same thing, Google Translated my way through the French 

 

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~ DRAMATIS PERSONAE ~

 

THE EMPEROR – Master of Humanity, Last and First Lord of the Imperium
HORUS LUPERCAL – Warmaster of the Imperium, Ascendant Vessel of the Pantheon

 

The Defenders of Terra
MALCADOR THE SIGILLITE – Regent of the Imperium
CONSTANTIN VALDOR – Captain-General of the Legio Custodes

The Loyalist Primarchs
ROGAL DORN – The Praetorian of Terra, Primarch of the VII Legion
SANGUINIUS – The Great Angel, Primarch of the IX Legion
VULKAN – The Last Guardian, Primarch of the XVIII Legion

 

The Legio Custodes
DIOCLETIAN COROS – Tribune
ARCATUS VINDIX CENTURIO – The Eagle of the Emperor
IOS RAJA – Hetaeron Companion
HARAHEL – Elected-Marshal, Guardian of the Sodality of the Key
SHUKRA – Companion, Guardian of the Sodality of the Key
CAECALTUS DUSK – Hetaeron Proconsul 
UZKAREL OPHITE – Hetaeron Proconsul 
DOLO LAMORA – Compagnon-sentinelle
KLIOTAN – Sentinel-Guard
ARZACH – Prefect-Captain
CAZADRIS – Sentinel-Guardian
KINTARA – Hetaeron Companion
DAMORSAR – Shield-Captain
KRYSMURTHI – Hykanatoi
AVENDRO – Shield-Captain
TELEMONIS – Marshal of the Host
CAERCIL – Companion
TYRASK – Sentinel
SYSTRATUS – Sentinel
ESTRAEL – Companion
GELIDEN – Sentinel
ASTRICOL – Companion
VALIQUE – Sentinel
MENDOLIS – Sentinel
VANTIX – Companion-Captain
HELIAD – Hetaeron Companion
AMALFI – Shield-Captain
ENTAERON – Vestarios
JUSTINIUS – Sentinel
LUDOVICUS – Proconsul Hykanatoi
SYMARCANTIS – Guardian
XADOPHUS – Companion-Guardian
ANDOLEN – Prefect-Companion
KAREDO – Tharanatoi (Hetaeron)
RAVENGAST – Hetaeron Companion
BRAXIUS – Hetaeron Companion
TAURID – Hetaeron Sentinel
NMEMBO – Hetaeron Companion
ZAGRUS – Hykanatoi (Hetaeron)
AMON TAUROMACHIAN – Custodian

 

The Sisters of Silence
KAERIA CASRYN – Oblivion-Knight, Steel Foxes Cadre
MOZI DODOMA – Vigilator-Sister
VEDIA – Silent Fury Sister

 

The Chosen of Malcador
KHALID HASSAN
ZARANCHEK XANTHUS
MORIANA MOUHAUSEN
GALLENT SIDOZIE
GARVIEL LOKEN – The Lonely Wolf
HELIG GALLOR – Knight-Errant

 

Officers and Lords Militant of the War Court
SANDRINE ICARO – Second Mistress Tacticae Terrestria
ILYA RAVALLION – Strategist
JONAS GASTON – Subaltern

 

Lords of the Council of Terra and Lords Principal
ZAGREUS KANE – The Fabricator in Exile
NEMO ZHI-MENG – Choirmaster of the Astra Telepathica
EIRECH HALFERPHESS – Exalted Astropath of the Great Tower

 

The VII Legion, the Imperial Fists
ARCHAMUS – Master of Huscarls
VORST – Veteran Captain
FAFNIR RANN – Lord Seneschal, Captain of the 1st Assault Cadre
FISK HALEN – Captain, 19th Tactical Company
VAL TARCHOS – Sergeant, 19th Tactical Company
MAXIMUS THANE – Captain, 22nd Company 'the Exemplars'
LEOD BALDWIN
BRASTAS – Captain
CALODIN
LIGNIS
BEDWYR
CORTAMUS
DEVARLIN
MIZOS

 

The V Legion, the White Scars
SHIBAN – Khan, named "Tachseer"
GANZORIG – Noyan-khan
JANGSAÏ – Khan
CHAKAJA – Stormseer
YIMAN
ATRAÏ
SOJUK – Khan
ZHINTAS – Khan
GAHAKI – Khan of the Burgediin Sarhvu
AINBATAAR – Khan
NAMAHI – Master of the Keshig

 

The IX Legion, the Blood Angels
RALDORON – First Captain, 1st Chapter
AZKAELLON – Herald of the Sanguinary Guard
TAERWELT IKASATI – Sanguinary Guard
ZEPHON – Captain, "The Bringer of Sorrow
NASSIR AMIT – "The Flesh Tearer"
SARODON SACRE
MAHELDARON
ZEALIS VARENS
KRYSTAPH KRYSTAPHEROS
RINAS DOL
KYSTOS GAELLON
KHOTUS MEFFIEL
SATEL AIMERY
KHORADAL FURIO
EMHON LUX

 

The Shattered Legions
ABIDEMI – Draaksward, XVIII Legion, the Salamanders
ARI’I – Pyre Warden, XVIII Legion, the Salamanders
MA’ULA – Master of Seals, XVIII Legion, the Salamanders
HEMA – Sergeant, XVIII Legion, the Salamanders
BÖDVAR BJARKI – VI Legion, the Space Wolves
KRATOZ – Spearhead-Centurion, X Legion, the Iron Hands
KHRYSAOR – Sergeant-at-arms, X Legion, the Iron Hands

 

The I Legion, the Dark Angels
CORSWAIN – Lord Seneschal, the Mastiff[?] of Caliban
ADOPHEL – Chapter Master
TRAGAN – Captain of the 9th Order
VORLOIS
BRUKTAS
HARLOCK
BLAMIRES
VANITAL
ERLORIAL
CARLOI
ASRADAËL
TANDERION
CARTHEUS
ZAHARIEL

 

The House Vyronii
ACASTIA – Bondswoman, pilot of Knight Armiger Elatus

 

The Imperial Army (Excertus, Auxilia, and others)
ALDANA AGATHE – Marshal, Antioch Miles Vesperi
PHIKES – His adjutant
MIKHAIL – Captain, 403rd Conscripted Troops
JERA TALMADA – Colonel, Corps Logisticae
LANTRY ZHAN – Advance Observer, 5th PanCon
MARTINEAUX – Host Captain
SKLATER – Sire-militant
HETIN GULTAN – Sergeant, Royal Zanzibari Host
KUCHER
DERRY CASSIER – Junior Subaltern
NAHINA PRAFFET – Corporal, 467th Tanzir Excertus
N’JIE – Captain, Kovingian Light Artillery
AND OTHERS

 

The Prefectus
AHLBORN – Conroi-Captain, Hort Palatine (Command Prefectus Unit)
STIGLICH – Hort Palatine
HELLICK MAUER – Boetharch

 

The Order of Interrogators
KYRIL SINDERMANN
LEETA TANG

 

The Citizen's Conclave
EUPHRATI KEELER
EILD
PEREVANNA
WEREFT
KATSUHIRO

 

The Renegade Host

 

The XVI Legion, The Sons of Horus
EZEKYLE ABADDON – First Captain
KINOR ARGONIS – Equerry of Warmaster Lupercal
ULNOK – Equerry of the First Captain
AZELAS BARAXA – Captain, 2nd Company
ITHA CLATHIS – 2nd Company
KALTOS – 2nd Company
TARCHESE MALABREUX – Master of the Catulan Reavers
HELLAS SYCAR – Master of the Justaerin
TARAS BALT – Captain, 3rd Company
TYRO GAMEX – 3rd Company
VORUS IKARI – Captain, 4th Company
XHOFAR BERUDDIN – Captain, 5th Company
EKRON FAL – Centurion, Justaerin
LYCAS FYTON – Captain, 7th Company
KALINTUS – Captain, 9th Company
SELGAR DORGADDON – Captain, 10th Company
ZISTRION – Captain, 13th Company

 

The XIV Legion, The Death Guard
TYPHUS – First Captain
SEROB KARGUL – Contemptor Lord
VORX – Lord of Silence
KADEX ILKARION
CAIPHA MORARG
MELPHIOR CRAW
SKULIDAS GEHRERG

 

The XVII Legion, the Word Bearers
SOR TALGRON
BARTHUSA NAREK

 

The VIII Legion, the Night Lords
KHAGASHU

 

The Dark Mechanicum
CLAIN PENT – Fifth disciple of Nul
EYET-UN-TAG – Speaker of the Epta War-Stead linked unity

 

Others
BASILIO FO – War criminal
ANDROMEDA-17 – Selenar

 

The Long Companions
OLL PERSSON – Perpetual
JOHN GRAMMATICUS – Logokine
KATT – Unsanctioned Psyker
HEBET ZYBES – Day laborer
DOGENT KRANK – Soldier
GRAFT – Servitor agricole
ACTAE – Prophetess
ALPHARIUS
LEETU – Proto-Astartes

 

Edit: Accidental character duplication, has been rectified

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13 minutes ago, Alpharius902 said:

 

Was about to post the same thing, Google Translated my way through the French 

 

Good job! Im stuck on mobile, so formating and translating was out of the question.

 

As for the dramatis:

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BARTHUSA NAREK! Yesssssss!

 

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Highlights I saw: 

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  • The First Four Inquisitors: We now know the first four founders of the Inquisition - Sindermann, Moriana (Horusian founder), Promeus (Promean founder), and Xanthus (founder of Xanthism)
  • Zahariel is on Terra, interested to see what the Lord Cypher does
  • Sor Talgron, the Warmonger from the Word Bearers trilogy, gets a showing
  • Vorx is mentioned yet again, this time as "Lord of Silence"
  • The Sons of Horus have a new 10th Company Captain, Dorgaddon. Interested to see where that goes
  • Also, the Sons' 3rd Company already has a new captain after the last one got whacked in Warhawk
  • Ekron Fal's a guy from the 2nd Black Book
  • Interested to see some Iron Hands also at the Siege
  • Ari'i's a guy from the Shattered Legions anthology
  • The sheer amount of Custodians makes me interested to see whether or not they're PoV characters as the Loyalists start to make an effort to push the Traitors (if that happens)
  • Both Diocletian and Kaeria get a shout out as well

 

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I’m very interested to see how many of these characters are relevant and how many are fodder for action scenes. As I recall Abnett tends to include pretty thorough dramatis personaes even if a lot of the characters only exist for a few pages or so. 

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I wonder how they'll explain Zahariel being on Terra, when he also has to be on Caliban with Luther for the final showdown.

 

Also looks like everyone forgot Yasu Nagasena, who was the bloke who teased the inquisitorial rosette years and years ago. He was with Promeus and defended him and all, survived, and now hasn't even shown up in the Siege.

 

Glad to see Sor Talgron getting some sunlight again. For one, he's a Word Bearer at the Siege, and we don't have many of those thanks to the decision to leave Lorgar out of it. For another, maybe we'll actually get the overslept payoff from his arc after all.

 

Also got a good chuckle out of Dark Angel Harlock, because it brought a certain space pirate to mind.

 

But most importantly: Azkaellon is back, they remembered him!

 

Maximum Thane is also back after dropping off the page for almost the entire Siege. Let's see if we can actually get the contradiction of him being at the Siege and him/another Thane being in The Beast Arises as a later-born Fist Exemplar solved.

 

And with Moriana being listed, it's questionable now if either Cyrene-as-Actae or Katt will step up to become Moriana as we know her. Unless they're cheekily listing characters twice again, before and after assuming new names or titles.

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Glad to see Sor Talgron getting some sunlight again. For one, he's a Word Bearer at the Siege, and we don't have many of those thanks to the decision to leave Lorgar out of it. For another, maybe we'll actually get the overslept payoff from his arc after all.

Anthony Reynolds better just show up in the middle of abnetts books to write him, or Dan better channel is inner mid-2000s grimdark chaos space marine writing. Seriously, every story with sor talgron or Marduk has been done by Reynolds and kept his vibe from the word bearers omnibus, it'll feel jarring without it. 

 

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Never thought I'd see the cast of Deeds Endure again.

 

Also, regarding Zahariel, it should be relatively easy given that Corswain will also be on Caliban for the showdown.

 

 

THAT's why the names seemed familiar!



I wonder if we'll ever get the Keys of Hel storyline being picked up again, too.

 

Corswain supposedly returns with the Lion, though. And Luther states that his Lord Cypher (who is later reaffirmed as Zahariel again, as we knew from the end of Angels of Caliban) being around, though he lost sight of him during the battle of Caliban, saying he heard that Zahariel/Lord Cypher was "cornered by Corswain" and it seemed unlikely he'd have survived that. So their plotlines are definitely going to collide, but Zahariel needs to return to Luther before the assault.

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My current theory is that Zahariel returns to Caliban with Corswain and the Lion, and that at least some of the Calibanite Dark Angels that joined Corswain turn on the Lion and the rest of the fleet when they reach Caliban, and they reunite during the battle before Luther loses sight of him again.

 

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2 hours ago, Corinthus said:

Surprised that there is no Samus on sight.

 

It kinda loses its meaning if the super-thematic host sacrifices herself to banish it, only for it to come back a few months later. 

 

Might as well welcome back the rest of the crew like corbax, angron, mortarion, khabanda, and Magnus while we're at it. 

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I don’t miss him in the slightest, but given the title of the closing books of such a series of novels is a direct reference to his silly mantra, I was expecting to see him in that bloated list of characters

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