Lord Marshal Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) WarCom article. PDF download. Edited April 18, 2023 by Lord Marshal Gorgoff, Lexington, BadgersinHills and 10 others 4 2 5 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matcap86 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Yaay it's out! Weirdly the download button broke on the community article Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Very quick skim at work and it looks like the same spread of units as the old list with Field Ordnance, Ogryns, Rough Riders, Beastmen (!) and Cargo 8s (??) added. I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farson Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 I've had a brief read through and it looks quite good 400pt baneblades is amusing me greatly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Had a good read through and it actually feels pretty good, the system still hates tanks and artillery ofc but lots of new options and the core infantry hordes seems fun. Jump pack recon squads added too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicebod Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 They ended up adding options instead of taking them away...I'd count that as a definite win. There's more provenances and they offer the same level of customization as they did in 1.0, if not more. I mean, you can put your Force Commander on a horse and run an all-cavalry army. Imagine it! stretch_135, Gorgoff, Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf and 2 others 2 1 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyedrops Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Other than the buzz feed quality writing on warcom im ecstatic about having rules finally. Imo, the prices GW wants people to pay for their human infantry boxes will probably put some off, wargames atlantic, station forge and "That Evil One" have some excellent options that again IMO fit the scale and aesthetics or 30k a little better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 My favourite part is that Squat armies are still very much a thing. 1.0's Abhuman Helots always implied it was to represent them, but the new version confirms it. Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf, Petitioner's City, El_Dicko and 3 others 4 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 I like it. It's enough to tempt me towards the Age of Darkness. Also: No sponsons on the LRBT? Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagashsnee Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Finally out AND it looks pretty fun, damn, someone actually put in some effort. Cant wait to write up some lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farson Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, Urauloth said: I like it. It's enough to tempt me towards the Age of Darkness. Also: No sponsons on the LRBT? Interesting. It's been a thing since the initial list for solar aux, sponsons are new technology in 30k heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Dawnstar Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) While I totally appreciate their efforts to move away from Fearless hordes I think they maybe over-corrected in making Levy units under a Ruthless Tyrant (who can execute people to keep units in the fight) more likely to break and explode en-masse XD ((The Warlord's Fear (1) aura affects drops nearby Levies' Leadership but the Expendable rule causes them to be removed before the Warlord Trait could prevent them from fleeing)) Edited April 18, 2023 by Commander Dawnstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 I really like that it's the full list, with most of the provenance freedom that defined the OG one. I do think Andy is out of touch in the article. You haven't been able to spam fearless since the FAQ in 2019, when it changed them to stubborn ld 6. You could get an ungodly amount of medusa emplacements back then, but now you can get an ungodly amount of lascannons. You can do something like 38 las and 18 laser destroyers in 2500. eyedrops and Noserenda 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrans Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Seems dedicated transports have been stripped out. But you can combine 3 provenances to male grenadier what they once were. (Alas can only take 2.. And grens are some how only 25 points cheaper than a tac squad...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 I like all the stuff they added in, I understand why they cut apart some of the provenances as some were just auto-takes but man I wish they had upped the limit to 3 as I'm now going to have to re-think the militia list(s) I had planned. I feel worse for anyone who has a militia army and those splits have caused them headaches. BadgersinHills and Petitioner's City 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAntilles Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 No sponsons, and still no way to take a Malcador Defender. Really cool that Infantry Squads can take special weapons though, and grenadiers can take two without having to add two models. Neat list I think. Petitioner's City 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenIronhand Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 What would you guys suggest for Kinfolk Helots? Hearthkyn or Einherjar from WGA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) FINALLY! The only 30k army I have is back. It stings that the fire support squad lost the option for heavy flamers. That was my favorite unit in the army. Oh well, guess I'll split 'em up and use them as regular flamers. Edited April 18, 2023 by Khornestar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 22 minutes ago, SvenIronhand said: What would you guys suggest for Kinfolk Helots? Hearthkyn or Einherjar from WGA? Votann or classic Squat models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, SvenIronhand said: What would you guys suggest for Kinfolk Helots? Hearthkyn or Einherjar from WGA? Necromunda Squats I think would work better than Hearthkyn, just because they look a bit 'lower tech' than Hearthkyn and callback to ye olde 'Imperial Squat' designs. Otherwise, Einherjar are going to be a lot less painful on your wallet and allow you to convert things like crewmen without breaking the bank. Edited April 18, 2023 by Lord Marshal Aramis K and El_Dicko 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squark Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/necromunda-ironhead-squat-prospectors-2022 Squat prospectors seem to be a lot closer to the wargear basic militia use, but they have such varied weaponry in the kit that getting an entire blob of 20 with the correct gun would be a nightmare. Those Einherjar could work too. Hearthkyn look too high-tech to field with one trait (you need the second for Kinfolk)- I guess warrior elite might work for boltguns and carapace armored grenadiers, but boltguns and armor that looks fancier than what Astartes are carrying is just going to look silly on a "militia" 31 minutes ago, SvenIronhand said: What would you guys suggest for Kinfolk Helots? Hearthkyn or Einherjar from WGA? Edited April 18, 2023 by Squark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 I've never clicked a link so fast in my life! Gorgoff, Astartes Consul and Lord Marshal 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 I was certainly planning a Squat army using Kharadon during the dark days, i think itll still work just fine though i was aiming for melee/pistol grenadiers in arcus' (Made out of the frigates) and Malcadors built out of the bigger ships. :) jaxom 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 There are some fantastic options and I am at a bit of a loss as to where to start. As a converter this is amazing, they really nailed the thematic aspect of army building here and opened up the doors for creativity. Not only am I excited to start on stuff myself I really can't wait to see what others come up with. Warden-Paints, Astartes Consul, jaxom and 2 others 4 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 I do think it is a shame that a few more 40k plastic kits - Chimera, Basilisk, Hellhound - weren't included. I think they are all canonically pre-Heresy appropriate. But that is a very minor gripe. Really excited and intrigued by the list, now I've had a proper look at it. Great to see a broader range of Provenances and units included, and I can't wait to see what people come up with. My own dilemma is whether to dig out the 30 - 40 worth of old Cadian plastics that I had earmarked for a Militia army before the new kit was released, and hope I can source more of the older ones to fill out the army, or bite the bullet and start again entirely based on the new models. Or maybe I'll do a whole Squat...I mean Helot...army. Doghouse and Noserenda 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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