Marshal Mittens Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 With Siege of Cthonia coming out, do you plan on making some inductii? I am for sure going to make some for my Dark Angels, and I am a maybe for my son's of horus. Model wise, it's more complicated to get the bits. How do you all plan to model yours up? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) For sure, the night lord one is quite good. I think one of the stls i have had a good combat knife/sword option. Whether that translates into painting the amount I'd like to build....who knows lol. Edited May 21, 2023 by SkimaskMohawk Marshal Mittens 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5949999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Seems as good excuse as any to paint up the MKVI I have lying around, particularly with the new colour plates they previewed for SoCthonia. Marshal Mittens 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjasuperspy Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 The Alphas are just tacs with no special equipment so it turns out I've been building them this whole time... Xenith and Marshal Mittens 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) I'm thinking of taking the MK VI bodies with CSM chainswords/bolt pistols for Word Bearers, tossing in the Kill team Legionaries possessed arms on one if I can find a way, to make them look like they're mutating with daemonic possession. Dark Angels will be easy, I'll just want to check the book out in more detail for color palettes. I'm thinking of tossing some metallic armor bits in there, might give them a proto Guardians of the Covenant vibe. That or toss some more Caliban green, if they're to be quick recruits from there. Edited May 21, 2023 by WrathOfTheLion Marshal Mittens 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruor Vault Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 I'm excited to have Proto-Tactical Squads in an Ultramarines army! Finally we have a legion specific unit that isn't either heavily over tuned, or total garbage! I'm thinking 2 meltaguns + Combi Melta in a rhino for some mobile tank/terminator hunting. MegaVolt87 and Marshal Mittens 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 I probably build a Squad of 20 for my Fists but i dont need more unless we get a RoW that makes Inductii Compulsory Troops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman101 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 I've seen some of the abilities, but do we know points or weapon options? I'm not really sure what the Inductii will bring compared to what we already have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 4 hours ago, bushman101 said: I've seen some of the abilities, but do we know points or weapon options? I'm not really sure what the Inductii will bring compared to what we already have. Points cost will be the same as the normal Squad. I havent seen any leaks for wargear except a few aditions for Fists and Ultramarines. Inductii rules are considered to be a side grade. Most times you loose something like Heart of the Legion and gain something else Like Ravening Madmen for World Eater Inductii. Someone described them as the late Heresy Standard after to much loses in Combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khern Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 Thinking of creating a 20 man Inductii Squad for my Word Bearers. 4 energetic spears + 1 on the sarge. May be used in Zone Mortalis by 10 or in normal game by 20. On the modeling... I prefer to use CSM bits on veterans looking, in MKV for example, because you don't born Chaos, you fall in it progressivly. For my Inductii, I plan to use MKVI with young/sadistic faces. Noserenda and Marshal Mittens 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bung said: Points cost will be the same as the normal Squad. I havent seen any leaks for wargear except a few aditions for Fists and Ultramarines. Inductii rules are considered to be a side grade. Most times you loose something like Heart of the Legion and gain something else Like Ravening Madmen for World Eater Inductii. Someone described them as the late Heresy Standard after to much loses in Combat. Some are sidegrades, while some are kinda straight upgrades. Wolves get +2 to charge and option for chain axes, which combos really hard with run+charge and russ' +1 str in the charge (and the +1 movement once per game). Emperors children get the option for charnarbal weapons (Sabres, for 5+ breach) and are higher ld against shooting attacks. Losing heart can suck, but that necessitated dying on the objectives to trigger, and at least for the despoilers, they kinda needed to be off the objective for a certain amount of time to get in close. Spite is another good trade off, as it takes some specific units and the charge to trigger. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 50 minutes ago, SkimaskMohawk said: Some are sidegrades, while some are kinda straight upgrades. Wolves get +2 to charge and option for chain axes, which combos really hard with run+charge and russ' +1 str in the charge (and the +1 movement once per game). Emperors children get the option for charnarbal weapons (Sabres, for 5+ breach) and are higher ld against shooting attacks. Losing heart can suck, but that necessitated dying on the objectives to trigger, and at least for the despoilers, they kinda needed to be off the objective for a certain amount of time to get in close. Spite is another good trade off, as it takes some specific units and the charge to trigger. They are still Support Squads, so i doubt we see games floded by Inductii. We havent seen the full rules yet, so we dont know what everyone loses besides HotL. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 Will be nice to be able to put bodies on the table, especially if you have taken something for alternate troops, like Pride or Leviathal. I need to see the full rules, but the Alpha one looks interesting, more a place to hide a character you want protecting than anything, or guarantee scoring T1. They can still be charged, though, so you don't want them too far up the table, but 20 of them with an excursor character might be fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickyelsdon Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 11 hours ago, Cruor Vault said: I'm excited to have Proto-Tactical Squads in an Ultramarines army! Finally we have a legion specific unit that isn't either heavily over tuned, or total garbage! I'm thinking 2 meltaguns + Combi Melta in a rhino for some mobile tank/terminator hunting. Have we seen if they can be given their own transports? Hoping but not expecting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 Giving up HotL is a fairly big loss especially for some chapters. Maybe if I ever do a late stage heresy themed army. Or work out my Traitor Ultramarines I might. But I currently don't have plans to add them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 5 hours ago, Bung said: They are still Support Squads, so i doubt we see games floded by Inductii. We havent seen the full rules yet, so we dont know what everyone loses besides HotL. Yea but some rites but non scoring units into the compulsory slot, so you can take a few inductii and recons instead. Using the Emperor's children as an example again, if you want to take 3rd company elite for mass sonic augments you can take a couple kakaphony in troops and then flood the board with a few units of 20 charnarbal sabre guys. They're not the cheapest thing ever at 330 for 20, but that's 20 breaching 6+/pinning flamer templates into a ton of breaching 5+ melee (that swing at initiative 5 on the charge). And you get to be ld 10 in the shooting phase to stick on objectives and not get pinned and such. Their downside is losing combats that draw, but the unit is still....really good. Again, not all inductii are an upgrade over their respective templates, but some definitely are. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman101 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 I'm not sure I'm impressed with the BA Inductii. No sweeps for maybe Fear? And did I hear they don't score? I'll really have to see the full rules, but it's looking like 'no' for me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickyelsdon Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, bushman101 said: I'm not sure I'm impressed with the BA Inductii. No sweeps for maybe Fear? And did I hear they don't score? I'll really have to see the full rules, but it's looking like 'no' for me Pretty sure they keep line, just support so cant fill compulsory slots in the RoW. I like that they didnt make them cheap and rubbish, would have been hard to do something with them other than just fodder. These are interesting enough to be worth a consideration when you have the points, or can build a list where they can perform the function of the base unit but dont need to fill the compulsory slot. As an Ultra player I like the idea of inductii squads with a pair of melta or plasma in place of normal 5 man support squads. 30ish points cheaper for a few more ablative wounds but less direct output. Seems a nice balance based on how often those squads usually end up depleted anyway. I want to build an EC force next and a few squads of sword wielding hopefuls sounds fun and i think could work quiet well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnesh88 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 I'll probably build one, but it's a "wait and see" case right now. I would love to include inductii into my narrative Awakening Fire army, but despoilers are so goddamn expensive money wise. I don't have personal connections with anyone that can 3d print stuff, and I have distrust in a lot of businesses that provide such services mostly due to payment security issues (I'm aware that I'm paranoid). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman101 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 If they have line, that's not to bad. Some Legions got better rules than others. And so far, the BA one is just bad. Hopefully there will be something redeeming on the datasheet Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 So two of my marine armies get duff options and the Sons of horus are a veteran formation so thats a no from me bob. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 1 hour ago, arnesh88 said: I'll probably build one, but it's a "wait and see" case right now. I would love to include inductii into my narrative Awakening Fire army, but despoilers are so goddamn expensive money wise. I don't have personal connections with anyone that can 3d print stuff, and I have distrust in a lot of businesses that provide such services mostly due to payment security issues (I'm aware that I'm paranoid). Assault marine arms are close enough. No one should care. If they do. Then that's unfortunate. Noserenda 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 1 hour ago, arnesh88 said: I'll probably build one, but it's a "wait and see" case right now. I would love to include inductii into my narrative Awakening Fire army, but despoilers are so goddamn expensive money wise. I don't have personal connections with anyone that can 3d print stuff, and I have distrust in a lot of businesses that provide such services mostly due to payment security issues (I'm aware that I'm paranoid). It's definitely a shame that people who are stuck with GW are so limited in their options because of the ridiculous prices. Especially when the person collects a legion that can use all the help it gets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 Are you going to build some Inductii? Answer: I play Iron Warriors so... 9 hours ago, Xenith said: I need to see the full rules, Yes, because... 9 hours ago, Xenith said: but the Alpha one looks interesting, more a place to hide a character you want protecting than anything, . You can't join Inductii squads with other models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gorgoff said: Are you going to build some Inductii? Answer: I play Iron Warriors so... Yes, because... You can't join Inductii squads with other models. Idk, I feel like the iron warriors ones get pretty close to the old legion trait. Not getting pinned off the objective is pretty helpful for cheap chaf objective holders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378712-are-you-going-to-build-some-inductii/#findComment-5950267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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