Wh40k 10th Edition Faction Focus: Titans

[Lord Marshal]

This Is The End, My Only Friend, The End

 

 

Fin.

[danodan123]

These look, erm, really, erm... fun(?) to the typical gamer that I'm so glad they did a whole article for them...

[DemonGSides]

  On 6/2/2023 at 1:05 PM, danodan123 said:

These look, erm, really, erm... fun(?) to the typical gamer that I'm so glad they did a whole article for them...

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It's Marketing.  Everything on WarCom is marketing.

That being said, that Warlord Titan is redonkulous.  It would be fun to see what it takes to actually kill one.

[Brother Casman]

Insane, GW, and kind of fitting for the setting.  I kind of want to try facing off against a Warlord, though I don't know anyone with one.

[Blindhamster]

well those are silly.

I will say, I find it quite odd these aren't automatically legends as well, considering the HH stuff is.

That said, they look like a giggle to play with for narrative events!

[acrozatarim]

Not something I'd personally want to bring along, but a friend does have a hierophant and will be happy that there's viable rules to bring one along.

 

The massive invuln saves vs shooting only on stuff like the Warlord does strike me as a bit silly, though, as it incentivises meleeing the tower-sized dethbot, of all things.

[The4thHorseman]

  On 6/2/2023 at 1:05 PM, danodan123 said:

These look, erm, really, erm... fun(?) to the typical gamer that I'm so glad they did a whole article for them...

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Agreed. Like they spend the time and effort to update these rules and make new datacards for them, but just yesterday they "Legended" a huge swath of "affordable" units that a great number of people have and use regularly. Pretty Bad Move.

[Blindhamster]

  On 6/2/2023 at 1:16 PM, acrozatarim said:

Not something I'd personally want to bring along, but a friend does have a hierophant and will be happy that there's viable rules to bring one along.

 

The massive invuln saves vs shooting only on stuff like the Warlord does strike me as a bit silly, though, as it incentivises meleeing the tower-sized dethbot, of all things.

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anything that melees it, dies. With the way damage spills over, the multi-attack damage 24 weapon is going to instant kill any unit foolhardy enough to melee it - infact it can kill multiple units simply by spreading its attacks lol

[Tokugawa]

Gargantuan Squiggoth has its melee weapon improved to dmg12 from dmg d3+3. Points cost would see significantly increase.

[Malakithe]

So they squat a massive portion of stuff from FW only to give these ridiculous things updated rules.

 

Does anyone actually use them? 

[acrozatarim]

I didn't see anything about damage spilling over in the article? Haven't slept properly though, so possible I've just missed it through the haze of fatigue.

[Marshal Reinhard]

  On 6/2/2023 at 1:16 PM, Blindhamster said:

well those are silly.

I will say, I find it quite odd these aren't automatically legends as well, considering the HH stuff is.

That said, they look like a giggle to play with for narrative events!

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Agreed. Contemptors & Leviathan are unfit for tournaments, but these things aren't?

[Kilamandaros]

Surely the points cost would make them unusable in tournaments anyway.

[DemonGSides]

  On 6/2/2023 at 1:17 PM, The4thHorseman said:

 

Agreed. Like they spend the time and effort to update these rules and make new datacards for them, but just yesterday they "Legended" a huge swath of "affordable" units that a great number of people have and use regularly. Pretty Bad Move.

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What time and effort are they devoting more to this than to any of the Legends list?  They're both all getting stats initially at the onset of the edition. 

 

Do you think they're going to continue to balance the Warlord Titan's Dataslate, despite the fact they'll have 0 data to use about how it works in practice?  Do you expect the Manta to get a Glow-up beyond MAYBE an entry in the Tau Codex (Which I also doubt will happen, since it's a Forgeworld product)?

I bet all none of them fit in a 2000 point list to begin with. MAYBE the Tyranid and Squiggoth, but there's no way a Warlord Titan will ever show up competitively because you won't be able to afford it in a list, let alone the costs of the actual resin.  These are for narrative and open play or whatever they're calling it now.

[Blindhamster]

  On 6/2/2023 at 1:20 PM, acrozatarim said:

I didn't see anything about damage spilling over in the article? Haven't slept properly though, so possible I've just missed it through the haze of fatigue.

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its how multi damage weapon work this edition, was from an earlier article, Im sure someone with the leaked rules can confirm or deny if I have that right

[TrawlingCleaner]

  On 6/2/2023 at 1:23 PM, Kilamandaros said:

Surely the points cost would make them unusable in tournaments anyway.

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Yeah might be a bit of struggle to get one in a 2k game

 

  On 6/2/2023 at 1:24 PM, Blindhamster said:

its how multi damage weapon work this edition, was from an earlier article, Im sure someone with the leaked rules can confirm or deny if I have that right

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Dmg doesn't spill over, only MW

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[DemonGSides]

They talked about the damage thing on stream last night too; anything you have spills over, AOS style.  The real killer is that it can spill over from attached units to the characters that are attached to those units, so it's less built in ablative.

[KnightofSigismund]

Who has that kind of money, I’d love a warlord or any of imperial titan but man no way could I swing it as a guy with a kid and bills. 

[acrozatarim]

Damage spills over - really? That's a massive change from 9th if true.

[phandaal]

  On 6/2/2023 at 1:21 PM, Marshal Reinhard said:

Agreed. Contemptors & Leviathan are unfit for tournaments, but these things aren't?

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Yes, you see those things are rare. Unlike Titans, which are all over the place. We are lousy with Titans around here!

[Dried]

  On 6/2/2023 at 1:26 PM, DemonGSides said:

They talked about the damage thing on stream last night too; anything you have spills over, AOS style.  The real killer is that it can spill over from attached units to the characters that are attached to those units, so it's less built in ablative.

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It doesn't :
"If a model is destroyed by an attack, any excess damage inflicted by that attack is lost."


Those rules are fun. I don't see these being legal in tournaments honestly (like for HH stuff).

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[Metzombie]

  On 6/2/2023 at 1:24 PM, Blindhamster said:

its how multi damage weapon work this edition, was from an earlier article, Im sure someone with the leaked rules can confirm or deny if I have that right

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From the rules leak I have:

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If a model loses several
wounds from an attack and is destroyed, any excess damage
inflicted by that attack is lost and has no effect.

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[Marshal Reinhard]

  On 6/2/2023 at 1:23 PM, Kilamandaros said:

Surely the points cost would make them unusable in tournaments anyway.

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  On 6/2/2023 at 1:25 PM, TrawlingCleaner said:

 

 

Yeah might be a bit of struggle to get one in a 2k game

 

 

Dmg doesn't spill over, only MW

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Fair point. Are tournaments always 2000 points? But then again, why the need to make these models not Legends then? Why was this distinction neccessary if it has little to no practical value?

[acrozatarim]

  On 6/2/2023 at 1:30 PM, Metzombie said:

From the rules leak I have:

 

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Oh, phew. There's a lot of things I love about AoS but damage spillover doesn't really work for me, so glad to see it hasn't come to 40k!