TrawlingCleaner Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Skal! ZeroWolf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Where did the link come from? It doesn't seem to be up on WarCom yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbedark Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Wolf Scouts are 1 Wound...good job proof readers... Dark Legionnare, Starlight_Wolf, Marshal Mittens and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focslain Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 They updated their Download section to include the codex divergent chapters. Official article up soon? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraithwing Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Riddled with errors so far. And if they are not errors, Wulfen and TWC have been absolutely gutted... Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 i'll be honest. THe wolf index is beyond terrible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 This is the most dissapointing thing I’ve ever seen with regards to Warhammer Arbedark 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Carpenter Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Looks like the wolves have been de-primiarised. I envie them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 lost: wolf priest Rune preist VV treatment for Wolf guard T wolves Wulfen cant take apoths Sagas are difficult to activate Strats are 50% weaker unless specific saga is activated Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlight_Wolf Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Triszin said: lost: wolf priest Rune preist VV treatment for Wolf guard T wolves Wulfen cant take apoths Sagas are difficult to activate Strats are 50% weaker unless specific saga is activated So we kept Wolf Lord/WGBL, but lost Wolf specific Librarian/Chaplains? At that point what is the reason for no apothecaries, since their argument was that Wolf Priests were SW apoths? Seems harsh to take something and give nothing in it's place ChronoCub 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 38 minutes ago, Triszin said: i'll be honest. THe wolf index is beyond terrible. You might even say it's... Ruff. ...I'll see myself out. Shovellovin, Toxichobbit, Valkyrion and 15 others 17 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhanist Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) What's truly weird is that Blood Angels haven't had the VV treatment at all for their units, just a bunch of firstborn characters locked to firstborn units. If they wanted to kill off divergent chapter units prior to their shiny new primaris replacements, you'd think they'd be consistent with it! You have my genuine sympathy, my hirsute Brothers. I guess it's use the gladius detachment and play as bluegrey codex marines for now; or come to the counts-as-red side, and have some Wulfen-shaped Death Company! Edited June 12, 2023 by Arkhanist Wolf Guard Dan and Starlight_Wolf 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blight1 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 I normally wouldn't feel bad for the wolves but no one deserves the vanguard vets treatment. Starlight_Wolf and Dark Shepherd 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squark Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) I think the Vanguard vet effect is because wargear costs are being... we can't say squatted anymore, so... Zoated? No, Blackstone Fortres had a Zoat. Anyway. The issue comes when a unit full of chainswords have to compete with a unit full of thunder hammers. Those unit should not cost the same. So GW throws the baby out with the bathwater and eliminates the weapon options. ... But then they forget this for death company. *sarcastic clapping* Good job DW. You can't even be consistently lazy. Edited June 12, 2023 by Squark Wolf Guard Dan, Metzombie, Valerian and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verevolf Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Scouts, Semi processed marines, have two wounds, Wolf Scouts, Grizzled veterans with centuries of experiance... one Wound...??? Starlight_Wolf and ChronoCub 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Verevolf said: Scouts, Semi processed marines, have two wounds, Wolf Scouts, Grizzled veterans with centuries of experiance... one Wound...??? They are obviously veterans from 8th edition. That's where there rules are from Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verevolf Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Also Jump Wolf Guard are gone? There goes my Red Pelts... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verevolf Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Vanguard Veterans were very similar to Wolf Guard but had their mix and match weapons removed like Wolf Guard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, EnsignJoker said: What is vanguard vetted? it's the new 10th ed shorthand for "Got :cuss:ed over by GW." Hopeful people (like me) are hoping that it means that they're getting new updates soon enough that they didn't worry about making updates to Index. A naive hope, probably. Pessimists are leaning towards "GW sucks at rules writing." Which isn't necessarily wrong lol Toxichobbit and Starlight_Wolf 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dried Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 You can't play cyberwolves alone anymore. They have to be in a Fenris Wolves unit. Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squark Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, DemonGSides said: it's the new 10th ed shorthand for "Got :cuss:ed over by GW." Hopeful people (like me) are hoping that it means that they're getting new updates soon enough that they didn't worry about making updates to Index. A naive hope, probably. Pessimists are leaning towards "GW sucks at rules writing." Which isn't necessarily wrong lol Vanguard veterans themselves are a fairly obvious update as the counterpart to sternguard. I don't think Wulfen and Thudnerwold Cavalry will be as lucky. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Just now, Squark said: Vanguard veterans themselves are a fairly obvious update as the counterpart to sternguard. I don't think Wulfen and Thudnerwold Cavalry will be as lucky. I agree, but maybe it means that some of the rumors of non-codex compliant chapters getting updates later in the year/into next year might be true, too. I just want properly sized Sanguinary Guard, and if that means SW gets some updates as well, let's get it done! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradeh Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 I think the unfortunate reality is the non updated Primaris chapters are going to be a weird place rules wise until they get refreshed. The whole, 'Firstborn is back' was clearly a facade. Toxichobbit, Starlight_Wolf, Kallas and 1 other 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apokalypsi Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) The Wulfen hammers had better be a misprint on the S and AP. It's pretty disgusting that firstborn Death Company are better than Wulfen and then we didn't even get Wolf Guard with Jump Packs. I was really hoping to attach Judiciars to Wulfen, but nothing can. This index really brought down my day. Seriously considering switching to BA successor instead of SW successor that I've been the last two editions. Edited June 12, 2023 by Apokalypsi Bulwyf and Starlight_Wolf 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDeath Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Its not the vanguard Treatment. Its the Chaos Treatment. We play that way for months now, its Not that bad, calm down. Kallas, Maschinenpriester, Iron Father Ferrum and 2 others 2 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378928-space-wolves-index/#findComment-5958674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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