depthcharge12 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Me looking through the Dramatis Personae for Falkus Kibre who gets nuked by Abnett despite showing up twice in ADB’s 40k books. I’m worried that this book is going to just go on and on and drag out what should be wrapped up. I’ve gotten to the point I just skip over entire plot lines in the siege especially pertaining to the humans…it’s just boring filler. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5997596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Ubiquitous1984 said: There is a guy on the BL Nutters facebook group who has received his shipping confirmation for his LE, saying it will arrive in his WH store tomorrow. So I expect spoilers will start to appear then (apparently his WH store manger is cool and doesn't hold deliveries back until release day). If his Store Manager is doing their job properly, he shouldn't be releasing it to the customer before the official release date - which to the best of my knowledge is 4th November. skylerboodie 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5997609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 15 minutes ago, m_r_parker said: If his Store Manager is doing their job properly, he shouldn't be releasing it to the customer before the official release date - which to the best of my knowledge is 4th November. Well we can only hope he does us all a solid and releases the leaks! ;) Shadowshand, skylerboodie and RikuEru 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5997615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowshand Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Scribe said: Well we can only hope he does us all a solid and releases the leaks! ;) Here is for hoping! I am fairly giddy for this one. Edited October 25, 2023 by Shadowshand Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5997622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Alright, wheres the leaks?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5997852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagashsnee Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 6 hours ago, Scribe said: Alright, wheres the leaks?! Book was on 2 week pre order wasnt it? Leak should start latter in the week when the early postal copies hit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5997878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanicus Tech-Support Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Tracking says it was delivered to the store wednesday, Im sure there's some store manager out there that's let it out early Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5997881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 7 hours ago, Scribe said: Alright, wheres the leaks?! Why do you do it to yourself? You know it is going to anger you and you are going to kick off! Mechanicus Tech-Support, DarkChaplain, System Sound and 4 others 3 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5997882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
System Sound Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 5 hours ago, DukeLeto69 said: Why do you do it to yourself? You know it is going to anger you and you are going to kick off! I'm eagerly awaiting it though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5997926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 13 hours ago, Scribe said: Alright, wheres the leaks?! Spoiler Dorn beats the Khorne desert then saves the Imperium, again. Noserenda, Mechanicus Tech-Support and Shadowshand 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5997932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neOh (AV) Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 13 hours ago, Scribe said: Alright, wheres the leaks?! They're lost in the warp... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5997936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 6 hours ago, DukeLeto69 said: Why do you do it to yourself? You know it is going to anger you and you are going to kick off! Investment. darkhorse0607 and Roomsky 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5997949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osteoclast Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 10 hours ago, DukeLeto69 said: Why do you do it to yourself? You know it is going to anger you and you are going to kick off! Abnett is tempting him as the avatar of Khorne. System Sound 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5997976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubiquitous1984 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I'm re-listening to book 1, at one point a comment is made that Malcador had shown Dorn the tarot before the siege, and that the Dark King card landed on the Emperor (or something like that). It rings a bell, but there were so many pre-Siege shorts that they all kind of blurred into one for me... Can anyone remember specifically which short its in reference to? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5997978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheywood Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ubiquitous1984 said: I'm re-listening to book 1, at one point a comment is made that Malcador had shown Dorn the tarot before the siege, and that the Dark King card landed on the Emperor (or something like that). It rings a bell, but there were so many pre-Siege shorts that they all kind of blurred into one for me... Can anyone remember specifically which short its in reference to? That’s from The Lightning Tower, which was the first piece of Heresy fiction BL published, if I recall correctly. Ubiquitous1984 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5997980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverythingIsGreat Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, cheywood said: That’s from The Lightning Tower, which was the first piece of Heresy fiction BL published, if I recall correctly. Yes. The chapbook had 2 stories, by Abnett (Lightning Tower) and McNeill (The Dark King). Featuring Dorn and Kurze, with a nice supporting cast. The tarot pattern (6 cards, with the Dark King "askew across the Emperor" plus the Lightning Tower card) repeats in The Dark King. Kurze throws the Tarot. 5 cards are the same, but this time the Dark King at the feet of the Emperor, plus the Dove. For years I thought that The Dark King was Kurze (the DK story is basically the destruction of Nostramo). I guess I was wrong, and/or the DK has been repurposed. Ubiquitous1984 and cheywood 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5997984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverythingIsGreat Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Kurze also turns up the Death card in his reading, cause he's Kurze. Malcador had commented on the same card in Abnett's story. So this is coming along, for example this fun hypothesis: Horus kills Emperor (Loken there as witness: "I was there, blah blah..." enough already) Imperials go berserk as the Star Child is born in spontaneous combustion-like situation with the super-duper *pure* Warp energy focussing on just-arrived No. 1 Nice Guy Oll armed with Primordial Nailclipper who proceeds to totally clip Horus into oblivion with an assist from the Dracon androgyne Who has sneaked into the Vengeful Spirit with Eldrad. Because he's a busybody, Eldrad proceeds to reanimate the Emperor - because he has farseen the Emperor becoming his favorite Eldar god. However Grammaticus, aghast at the prospect, mangles Eldrad's spell (logokine, natch) and the result is... well check it out 10000 years later. Then Dorn kills everybody and leaves. Minus the reborn corpse-Emperor, who is snatched by Fabius Bile in the confusion and taken to Terra due to Warp/Reality malfunctions.. Only to be stolen by mysteriously-free Basilio Fo who would just love to try a new little theory of his, some sort of symbiotic situation. Success!! Emperor is interred by Fo into the Golden Throne and stuff seems to be working!! I think. Arguleon Veq and Cactus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5998007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Lightning Tower was after Horus rising afaik, i remember at the time both were pretty unprecedented in their ways but Rising was definitely the first stories since the CCG. lansalt and cheywood 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5998009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I think Dark King/Lightning Tower were the first short stories? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5998024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Possibly the first shorts, but the first chapbook, limited availability things was their main claim to fame. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5998027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rookie40K Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Dark King/Lightning Tower were the first HH audio dramas. It has voice acting and some sound effects running about 1 hr 17 min. Around 2009 came out on CD. I downloaded into ITunes. Audible is so much easier. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5998059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preliminary Bombardment Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Anyone received thiers yet? We are alway again next week (a full house rewire, emperor give me strength) so was hoping it would be here by now Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5998113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 On 10/27/2023 at 2:30 PM, Scribe said: Investment. Now you know I rate Abnett highly and I would love it ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT if after reading tEatD 2 and 3 you were like “hot dang now I get it! Now I see what was building all along through these years and millions of words! Jeez Abnett is a genius!” But we both know you are going to be (sadly) very disapointed. Pretty sure I am going to be a bit disappointed too as it won’t mesh with my preferred head canon either! DarkChaplain, Ubiquitous1984 and Mechanicus Tech-Support 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5998144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Preliminary Bombardment said: Anyone received thiers yet? We are alway again next week (a full house rewire, emperor give me strength) so was hoping it would be here by now It's a two week pre-order, so won't be available until 4th November. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5998164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rookie40K Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Emperor’s teeth I thought it was out on audio this weekend! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379879-the-end-and-the-death-part-i-ii-iii/page/11/#findComment-5998166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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