Legions Imperialis & Epic hobby chat!

[DuskRaider]

Yeah, I’m a bit concerned that the game is going to fade quietly into the void. We saw it happen to Aeronautica and Titanicus, though they were allegedly killed so Legions Imperialis could carry both lines along with its own. 
 

To be fair, we’ll see a little Titanicus support with the release of the Dark Mechanicum Stalkers, but it’s a far cry from an expansion. 
 

GW has a chance to right the ship and actually provide support, drum up interest and expand upon the game if they want to. I really hope they do, because this game does have potential. 

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

The trick with GW pulling the plug is to buy all you need in advance. Therefore you won´t miss out when the game gets squatted. Apart from a few titans and support boxes I have now everything I need.

[Marshal Mittens]

On 12/2/2024 at 8:09 PM, DuskRaider said:

I won’t lie, I’m a bit perturbed to hear that stores are placing LI product on clearance. Hopefully it doesn’t mean much, but at least you’re able to get into the game. 

My local FLGS had everything but the Admech stuff at 75% off on black friday. They were also selling Skaventide for 75% off and the Solar Aux starter for 28mm 30k for 50% off. 

 

I know a few people who play, but not many. I think the cost is really too high for what you get. To make a 600pt Armored company of 3x6 Predators and 2x3 Kratos it's like $260 before taxes, and you need like 5 companies of that points level to play. It's one of GWs most expensive game lines to build an army for. 

Edited December 7 by Marshal Mittens

[DuskRaider]

Stalker and Serperos kits have been preordered. I went with 3 x Stalker and 2 x Serperos to start. Hopefully by the time they get here, my Dark Mechanicum will be fully painted and ready. 

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

The main purpose of LI is to bind customers and not make them go to play 3rd party games like Dropzone Commander. In that regard LI is a success. 

[Crablezworth]

19 hours ago, Marshal Mittens said:

My local FLGS had everything but the Admech stuff at 75% off on black friday. They were also selling Skaventide for 75% off and the Solar Aux starter for 28mm 30k for 50% off. 

 

I know a few people who play, but not many. I think the cost is really too high for what you get. To make a 600pt Armored company of 3x6 Predators and 2x3 Kratos it's like $260 before taxes, and you need like 5 companies of that points level to play. It's one of GWs most expensive game lines to build an army for. 

 

Yeah after slogging through the mech box, I love the end result but can totally see why players might not only not see value but have it seem a bit daunting. Some of the decisions made for quality meant a lot more parts than would be ideal, and, this also buts right up against an environment where one can often print far fewer component small scale models that look just as good but are less of a headache to build. The value proposition too of all the boxes being roughly the same price has some boxes feeling like a pretty good value but like your example with armored company, 4 sicarans is sorta feel bad for the price, especially with some boxes of tanks coming with as many as 8 like the basilisk/medusa boxes. The fast attack box for marines sorta feels at least more substantial in terms of numbers of minis, but the whole thing is a tough sell to prospective players, and it's not helped by the fact that its sold as like a game that really needs 3k when in reality the army boxes are actually decent starting points and make okay armies in one go. It also doesn't help that a lot stores just don't have terrain for small scale.  

On 12/6/2024 at 7:18 AM, DuskRaider said:

Yeah, I’m a bit concerned that the game is going to fade quietly into the void. We saw it happen to Aeronautica and Titanicus, though they were allegedly killed so Legions Imperialis could carry both lines along with its own. 
 

To be fair, we’ll see a little Titanicus support with the release of the Dark Mechanicum Stalkers, but it’s a far cry from an expansion. 
 

GW has a chance to right the ship and actually provide support, drum up interest and expand upon the game if they want to. I really hope they do, because this game does have potential. 

 

It feels really weird that they never even tried to sell order tokens, especially with them being so necessary to the game, much more so than the unit cards. 

[Crablezworth]

3 hours ago, Deus_Ex_Machina said:

The main purpose of LI is to bind customers and not make them go to play 3rd party games like Dropzone Commander. In that regard LI is a success. 

 

Dropzone is interesting, its the only other small scale game I played before AT/LI. The models are great, amazing photography, but i still found it had some of the same issues as li, like tracking all the sub lists and which dropship belonged to what was a bit too daunting imo, it felt like a game that needed heads up display at times. I find the idea of tracking break points in li a similar thing, just sorta take up more bandwidth mentally and time wise than its worth. I think the one to keep an eye on is full spectrum dominance, I really like that all you need is like a 2x3 and its getting a rulebook and i think cards from modiphius. 

[DuskRaider]

I’m actually a bit shocked that I was able to obtain the Construct preorders so easily this time around. I remember when GW released the Spartan wave that everything was gone before I even had a chance to get to the website. I’m wondering if this is an indication that they’re stocking up for releases more or a significant drop in player interest in the game. I’m hoping it’s a correction of stock availability. 
 

Edit: actually, there’s something else I’ve been thinking about as well, and that’s the lack of coverage for the game as well. By that I mean on outlets like YouTube. If you type “Legions Imperialis” into the search bar, there isn’t much that pops up from recent times. Of course there’s the basic review of the newest expansion, but any battle reports or whatnot are completely absent. I know Tabletop Standard has posted over on Patreon, but you’d think with a new game that there would be more content relevant to it. 

Edited December 8 by DuskRaider

[Crablezworth]

7 hours ago, DuskRaider said:

I’m actually a bit shocked that I was able to obtain the Construct preorders so easily this time around. I remember when GW released the Spartan wave that everything was gone before I even had a chance to get to the website. I’m wondering if this is an indication that they’re stocking up for releases more or a significant drop in player interest in the game. I’m hoping it’s a correction of stock availability. 
 

Edit: actually, there’s something else I’ve been thinking about as well, and that’s the lack of coverage for the game as well. By that I mean on outlets like YouTube. If you type “Legions Imperialis” into the search bar, there isn’t much that pops up from recent times. Of course there’s the basic review of the newest expansion, but any battle reports or whatnot are completely absent. I know Tabletop Standard has posted over on Patreon, but you’d think with a new game that there would be more content relevant to it. 

 

It's pretty taxing to document an alternating activation game imo. That and contextualizing the progressive scoring is really sorta not interesting. Tabletop standard's most recent battle report was great though with end game scoring. 

[Pacific81]

I have heard a few people talk about how that game worked so well, need to watch as we are looking for a format for our narrative event next year.

 

Just been picking at some Eldar Guardians to finish off a company, all Vanguard Miniatures. The Grav Tanks are going to be mounted on paper clips as per the one on the left to give the appearance of floating.

[Sherrypie]

  

A small 2k game of EpicAU, Night Lords vs Mechanicum. The astartes attempted a speedy overrun of the harbour, but bounced hard from the wall of robots and got blasted with rocket artillery until they slunk back into the burning waves.

 

 

More in the spoilers!

 

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[Pacific81]

Beautiful shots as always Sherrypie! It looks like an incredible game.

 

Not surprised the Lords ended up sneaking away (this is how they always go!) I don't think I have seen that army before, is it yours and do you have any more shots?

[Sherrypie]

43 minutes ago, Pacific81 said:

Beautiful shots as always Sherrypie! It looks like an incredible game.

 

Not surprised the Lords ended up sneaking away (this is how they always go!) I don't think I have seen that army before, is it yours and do you have any more shots?

 

Thanks! The Lords are my friend's recently painted force, not mine. This was their first outing and they got absolutely wrecked for it. My first action threw a Golgotha missile on top of their HQ's head and decapitated the marines' supreme command rerolls right out of the gate :D