Legions Imperialis & Epic hobby chat!

[DuskRaider]

Yeah, Finecast is / was absolute trash. Do they even do it anymore? I haven’t purchased a 40K model in years so I honestly don’t know. 
 

I think the Krieg line is one of the best examples. FW’s Krieg line is still amazing to this day, and I still prefer their HH armor kits to the newer GW ones (though the GW new Mk. III is pretty good from what I’ve seen). Scale is so much better in the FW models, everything seems proportional to the model and those it interacts with… it’s just a superior product. Is there more work involved with resin models? Yes. Is it worth it? In my opinion, absolutely. Even the FW Greater Daemon models are better than the much much newer GW equivalents. 
 

One of the biggest problems with LI gaining traction is GW’s seeming lack of any kind of coverage of the game other than an occasional Heresy Thursday article. I don’t see it mentioned much at all otherwise while games such as 40K, AoS… even Old World or Horus Heresy 28mm get much more attention. How are you going to sell a product when you barely acknowledge it?
 

Each expansion should be accompanied by fanfare. There should be articles concerning the lore of the game, occasional battle reports that don’t require a new model or book to remind folks this game even exists. Hell, write up a large campaign in White Dwarf or whatever that rolls HH28, Zone Mortalis HH, Aeronautica HH, Titanicus, and Legions Imperialis all into one. They’ve got all of these separate systems that revolve around this point in the universe, incorporate them all together and make this awesome narrative campaign that will draw interest and attention to all of them. 
 

I really thought we would see something like this when both HH28 and LI introduced Mechanicum / Dark Mechanicum in close succession to one another, yet GW didn’t really do much of anything to capitalize on it. 

[DuskRaider]

I’m not sure if everyone read the article this past Sunday, but GW is releasing the rest of the Mechanicum Battlebox contents separately. This is great news for those of us playing Dark Mechanicum, now we can get our hands on the infantry without all of the other contents that are less useful. 
 

As for personal LI news, all of my Constructs are built, primed and waiting in queue for me to finish my Mechanicum box. My son loved his Christmas presents of the Mechanicum Box, Titan Maniple Box and lone Reaver and will unfortunately be playing filthy Mars Loyalists as well as Legio Astorum. You can lead a horse to heretical water but you can’t make it drink, it seems. 

[Pacific81]

Have really been pushing on with some Epic Eldar, to carry on with a blog and campaign that some gaming friends and I are playing through

World Eaters of the Great Crusade narrative campaign blog

 

First up, Eldar Aspect Warriors. Clock-wise from top left: Singing Swords (30k-era Aspect Warrior house), Fire Dragons, Swooping Hawks, Dark Reapers. The Top two are Vanguard Miniatures Eloi range, the bottom two are prints

 

Original/classic minis, Warp Hunters and Doom Weavers

 

Finally, the completed army so far. I have some command units to come (Avatar and Warlock), followed by Howling Banshees, Jet bikes/Vypers, Scouts and hopefully a Titan or two to round out the force.

[Crablezworth]

On 12/29/2024 at 11:45 AM, DuskRaider said:

One of the biggest problems with LI gaining traction is GW’s seeming lack of any kind of coverage of the game other than an occasional Heresy Thursday article. I don’t see it mentioned much at all otherwise while games such as 40K, AoS… even Old World or Horus Heresy 28mm get much more attention. How are you going to sell a product when you barely acknowledge it?
 

Each expansion should be accompanied by fanfare. There should be articles concerning the lore of the game, occasional battle reports that don’t require a new model or book to remind folks this game even exists. Hell, write up a large campaign in White Dwarf or whatever that rolls HH28, Zone Mortalis HH, Aeronautica HH, Titanicus, and Legions Imperialis all into one. They’ve got all of these separate systems that revolve around this point in the universe, incorporate them all together and make this awesome narrative campaign that will draw interest and attention to all of them. 
 

I really thought we would see something like this when both HH28 and LI introduced Mechanicum / Dark Mechanicum in close succession to one another, yet GW didn’t really do much of anything to capitalize on it. 

 

Well having started more with printed stuff and only more recently getting more on the gw plastic side, I don't envy whoever has to sell li. It's a lot easier to contextualize 28mm than small scale imo. If they only show massive 3k armies, I think sadly it will scare off more than inspire the majority of players on the fence about dipping their toe in. I think if they were smart they would have really pushed the boxed armies more, but also show more reasonable sized armies/games. At least for me, 3k isn't even really viable time wise, most we can do is probably 2k, with 1-1.5k largely being the sweet spot. I don't think GW wants to show that the game is viable at more reasonable point levels. 

 

A big disappointment with the li expansions has been that we've seen nothing in the way of actual game/minis pics relevant to the book. Like tallarn would have been a great opportunity to show off a board or two that's not urban hellscape. Even if it was still the tiles just painted brown. Same with the latest book, no shots of mechnaicum fighting over forges etc. 

 

But just from talking to people, the appetite largely isn't there with most for li. I get it too, 60$ for the average box, and the value is all over the place, from hundreds of points to like 60pts for a box of triaros. It's also very difficult for people to know what to buy, or find out that the loose collection of kits they purchased can't easily be made into an army. It also doesn't help that there probably should be a second starter with perhaps a single faction focus but also including terrain. The single biggest issue I think is that even stores that sell li don't often have any small scale terrain at all. At least around here. 

[Crablezworth]

Got my stalkers done :)

[DuskRaider]

20 hours ago, Crablezworth said:

 

Well having started more with printed stuff and only more recently getting more on the gw plastic side, I don't envy whoever has to sell li. It's a lot easier to contextualize 28mm than small scale imo. If they only show massive 3k armies, I think sadly it will scare off more than inspire the majority of players on the fence about dipping their toe in. I think if they were smart they would have really pushed the boxed armies more, but also show more reasonable sized armies/games. At least for me, 3k isn't even really viable time wise, most we can do is probably 2k, with 1-1.5k largely being the sweet spot. I don't think GW wants to show that the game is viable at more reasonable point levels. 

 

A big disappointment with the li expansions has been that we've seen nothing in the way of actual game/minis pics relevant to the book. Like tallarn would have been a great opportunity to show off a board or two that's not urban hellscape. Even if it was still the tiles just painted brown. Same with the latest book, no shots of mechnaicum fighting over forges etc. 

 

But just from talking to people, the appetite largely isn't there with most for li. I get it too, 60$ for the average box, and the value is all over the place, from hundreds of points to like 60pts for a box of triaros. It's also very difficult for people to know what to buy, or find out that the loose collection of kits they purchased can't easily be made into an army. It also doesn't help that there probably should be a second starter with perhaps a single faction focus but also including terrain. The single biggest issue I think is that even stores that sell li don't often have any small scale terrain at all. At least around here. 

Perhaps GW should have an escalation campaign, either in WD or in an Expansion (with updated rules) that helps new players get into the game at a smaller scale and gradually build up their force. I’m not really sure how they would remedy an issue such as this, large scale is literally the point of Legions Imperialis (and its predecessors). Honestly, I think you’re correct with the pricing problems. This game is more expensive to buy into than most others, which I think throws a lot of people off when they take the scale into account. 
 

I do think they need to consider releasing different starter boxes, perhaps theming them around a specific formation with a deep discount. Make a Demi-Company Formation box with something like two Infantry boxes worth, a Rhino box or two, a Predator box and a Kratos box. I don’t know exactly, but something similar to the idea. I know I had a couple friends even look at the Astartes Battle Box and immediately be turned off as they have no intentions of running any Fast Attack-type detachments and thus have no use for the box itself. 

[Crablezworth]

2 hours ago, DuskRaider said:

Perhaps GW should have an escalation campaign, either in WD or in an Expansion (with updated rules) that helps new players get into the game at a smaller scale and gradually build up their force. I’m not really sure how they would remedy an issue such as this, large scale is literally the point of Legions Imperialis (and its predecessors). Honestly, I think you’re correct with the pricing problems. This game is more expensive to buy into than most others, which I think throws a lot of people off when they take the scale into account. 
 

I do think they need to consider releasing different starter boxes, perhaps theming them around a specific formation with a deep discount. Make a Demi-Company Formation box with something like two Infantry boxes worth, a Rhino box or two, a Predator box and a Kratos box. I don’t know exactly, but something similar to the idea. I know I had a couple friends even look at the Astartes Battle Box and immediately be turned off as they have no intentions of running any Fast Attack-type detachments and thus have no use for the box itself. 

 

What really doesn't help them are the optics of some of their choices design wise, like its very odd for the marine tanks to largely have multiple turrets, but somehow on the solar aux side, they do entire new boxes for russes, it seems sorta wasteful in general but in a time of easy 3d printing, its truly questionable. I also think a lot of the kits unfortunately are more detailed than need be, often too man fiddly bits, the new mech box has a lot of that. But I mean you show someone a box of 2 super heavies or 4 drop pods for like 60 canadian, it just makes no sense, even with the the value proposition of their other kits. I mean 8 or 10 tanks for the same price as 4 pods or 2 big tanks feels sorta off. 

 

It's also a game that just doesn't scale up gracefully, and sadly now they've really salted the earth at the low end by forcing the titans on everyone. Before we could just play under 2.5k or 2k to avoid the bigger titans but now that's gone as well. I fear for new players just getting together 1 or 1.5k to play and having to deal with like 3 titans or something, just seems weird. 

[Pacific81]

Cracking work on the Stalkers @Crablezworth ! Love the scheme.

 

@DuskRaider - I definitely agree about the lack of coverage not helping. If you only buy WD you might have no idea LI even exists. I see this month TOW gets an article - that game is also accessible from the Warhammer homepage, Legions seems to get short shrift by comparison. I did see a YT channel talking about it being a niche within a niche (so some Heresy 28mm players know about it and play) which might well be correct, and it's really not making the most of the potential of the scale I think.

 

Anyway - some minis Have been cracking on with Epic 30k Eldar and finished off some Command units.

The Avatar and Falcon are GW classics, while the Warlocks are Vanguard Miniatures. The casualties on the Avatar are from remains of marine units (mostly Vanguard) that were sat unused, and now at least have a use!

 

 

[DuskRaider]

15 hours ago, Crablezworth said:

 

What really doesn't help them are the optics of some of their choices design wise, like its very odd for the marine tanks to largely have multiple turrets, but somehow on the solar aux side, they do entire new boxes for russes, it seems sorta wasteful in general but in a time of easy 3d printing, its truly questionable. I also think a lot of the kits unfortunately are more detailed than need be, often too man fiddly bits, the new mech box has a lot of that. But I mean you show someone a box of 2 super heavies or 4 drop pods for like 60 canadian, it just makes no sense, even with the the value proposition of their other kits. I mean 8 or 10 tanks for the same price as 4 pods or 2 big tanks feels sorta off. 

 

It's also a game that just doesn't scale up gracefully, and sadly now they've really salted the earth at the low end by forcing the titans on everyone. Before we could just play under 2.5k or 2k to avoid the bigger titans but now that's gone as well. I fear for new players just getting together 1 or 1.5k to play and having to deal with like 3 titans or something, just seems weird. 

I do agree that the prices are way too high. This is the main reason why I can’t get more folks into the game and also why a couple of those who do play are 3D printing most of their stuff. 
 

I don’t agree that Titans are being forced upon us, though. I do agree that GW is trying hard to integrate them into the game (unsuccessfully, might I add), but I don’t see them as an integral component of an army. Yeah, a lot of net lists are fielding Warmasters, but I would say to avoid that kind of player interaction in the first place unless that’s your kind of playstyle. Of the handful of games that I’ve played, only a couple have featured Titans, and that’s only because we wanted to see how they faired against a more balanced or common army in the game more than anything else. 
 

Actually, I take that back… maybe there is a bit of an issue with GW pushing them, particularly with Ad Mech. Unfortunately, I see it more as a way to flesh out an otherwise kinda bare faction more than forcing Titans into the game. Sorta. Ad Mech doesn’t really have many options, even in the 28mm version of 30K, and while it may not be much of an issue at that scale, it certainly is at 8mm. The company needs to create new units to make the faction work long term, and that may even mean breaking their stupid unspoken policy of not cross-pollinating 30K with 40K. The fact that we don’t have Skitarii of various flavors and most certainly Secutarii is a bit ridiculous. 

[Crablezworth]

1 hour ago, DuskRaider said:

I do agree that the prices are way too high. This is the main reason why I can’t get more folks into the game and also why a couple of those who do play are 3D printing most of their stuff. 
 

I don’t agree that Titans are being forced upon us, though. I do agree that GW is trying hard to integrate them into the game (unsuccessfully, might I add), but I don’t see them as an integral component of an army. Yeah, a lot of net lists are fielding Warmasters, but I would say to avoid that kind of player interaction in the first place unless that’s your kind of playstyle. Of the handful of games that I’ve played, only a couple have featured Titans, and that’s only because we wanted to see how they faired against a more balanced or common army in the game more than anything else. 
 

Actually, I take that back… maybe there is a bit of an issue with GW pushing them, particularly with Ad Mech. Unfortunately, I see it more as a way to flesh out an otherwise kinda bare faction more than forcing Titans into the game. Sorta. Ad Mech doesn’t really have many options, even in the 28mm version of 30K, and while it may not be much of an issue at that scale, it certainly is at 8mm. The company needs to create new units to make the faction work long term, and that may even mean breaking their stupid unspoken policy of not cross-pollinating 30K with 40K. The fact that we don’t have Skitarii of various flavors and most certainly Secutarii is a bit ridiculous. 

 

Well, its basically just that before with the bigger ones being indexed to point level, it sorta took care of itself balance wise. Now, having to deal with the fact that one can basically take a warmaster at any point level, I agree the player doing that is a bit touched, but I still think its an obvious step back and a good indication we likely will never be getting any balance because it seems like any limitation or saying no to players doing whatever they want is also seen by marketing as saying no to a potential sale. But just from a practical level, it means someone wanting to run a small point level event now has to be the bad guy who says no, whether or not the event is competitive or narrative, it feels like you're taking someone who would rather be playing AT but because no one is playing AT you're forcing them into a very small li event. The saddest part too is, all titan/knights really got from the book other than license to ruin the game is ability for armigers to finally be their own detachments. I watched a miniwargaming batrep recently where its like mostly titans vs an li army and the game just wasn't good. It would have been so much better if both sides had a majority of titans with a sprinkling of li stuff. 

 

 

I also think the formation system just isn't good, or shouldn't be the only way. It doesn't factor in point wise when a given formation adds a buff, they also don't follow any kind of consistent logic, like having some sort of tax units being compulsory in order to control availability of more powerful units. Some formations have that, but other don't care at all. There's nothing forcing combined arms. Some formations are embarassing in like their compulsory can be made up by like detachments of 1 model/tank, the formation that can be made of 3 seperate karacnos comes to mind. I almost just wish for an foc or barring that, take whatever u want but try to avoid taking more than 3 detachments of the same thing. I think too that in retrospect, the best games balance wise have sadly been at the result of agreeing to a mirror matched sideboard of the bigger stuff like knights or titans, for example, we'd make a list of li stuff at like 1k or more and then both just take a reaver or, a lancer and a warhound etc or more recently mirror matched flyers. Or even going further with full list disclosure like "here's my list bro, try and make something fun to fight against it".

 

And the list sharing works well enough, but some of my friends, they know this is the signs of a game with unhealthy rules/balance/messed up incentives, and its tough to reach for a game like that when old world lets them list build and do all kinds of stuff, but also has events where they can try their lists out. We've seen the result of li events at like 2.5k and its 2 turns games with hundreds of infantry models, pioneer companies and warmasters. But it feels like no one wants to try li at a lower point level that might actually function either. I did like that one US event that capped activations at 14 at I believe 2k, that was at least a start at sanity and making the game functional. I totally agree slow grow is needed, cuz it would make people realize they actually don't need that much to play, but also, they don't need to bury themselves in way too many kits way too fast and burn out. 

Edited January 7 by Crablezworth

[Crablezworth]

4 hours ago, Pacific81 said:

Cracking work on the Stalkers @Crablezworth ! Love the scheme.

 

@DuskRaider - I definitely agree about the lack of coverage not helping. If you only buy WD you might have no idea LI even exists. I see this month TOW gets an article - that game is also accessible from the Warhammer homepage, Legions seems to get short shrift by comparison. I did see a YT channel talking about it being a niche within a niche (so some Heresy 28mm players know about it and play) which might well be correct, and it's really not making the most of the potential of the scale I think.

 

Anyway - some minis Have been cracking on with Epic 30k Eldar and finished off some Command units.

The Avatar and Falcon are GW classics, while the Warlocks are Vanguard Miniatures. The casualties on the Avatar are from remains of marine units (mostly Vanguard) that were sat unused, and now at least have a use!

 

 

 

 

 

Love the avatar appropriately standing atop a pile of bodies :)

 

I think part of the reason why we don't see it in white dwarf, beyond the fact that they're largely not playing it at gw, but more specifically even if they were, shooting a game of epic or epic in general seems like a big departure from 28mm. For one, its less about any one model and more about trying to contextualize the larger battle/set of models and that's super tough as seen with the initial battle report they did with 3k, the one with models we didn't see released for another like 7 months. It's super hard to contextualize 6k of tiny models, and also really show a battle on an urban hellscape with like 30 structures. Old epic boards had a lot of negative space and coloured open terrain like the classic green grass mats, and buildings tended to be more clustered than comprising the totality of all terrain/scenery. They're sorta pigeon holed too by the tiles/urban setting, so that's likely all they'd be able to show us and that's also probably another reason it feels like a one and done for the white dwarf team. Going back to just contextualizing the armies, i still look back at the pics from the first batrep and like, the armies are almost overwhelming to take in. Anyone breaking out the calculator to figure out what one of the 3k armies cost likely got scared off it feels. I think they need to do a supplement with more of a focus on 1500pts and down, perhaps even make specific formations for the various army boxes to remove barriers to entry. Emphasize too that the game doesn't need to be on a 5x4 at all levels, could show 4x4 or even smaller boards. If the game was functional right down to playing on a 2x3, basically one box of tiles and a box of civitas buildings it would hopefully pull more people in and scare fewer away as it'd be seen as something to grow into, not the current niche moneypit that will result in few games. 

 

Side note, to defend gw/white dwarf a bit, its super difficult for them to shift from single model to like army shots mosty/network effect. When they were doing paint videos of the li minis, so many people I found were super negative about the paint jobs, but no one was being fair about the context and distance they'd be seen at. There was also the other side, the more experience small scale painters having a chuckle at just how much time/detail was put into a single base of infantry that'd be pulled in 2 seconds of playing. I didn't love all the colour choices but the painting was solid, if anything too thorough and often only when you'd see the model in context with a few others unit types of the same scheme would you sorta go "ah ok, it looks way better now". Small scale seems largely about the network effect of seeing it all come together in one cohesive force, but at the same time it tougher to be like "check out this one 8mm rapier model" and have 28mm scale players know what to make of it, same time if you show them 9 rapiers all painted consistently they sorta "get it" more if that makes any sense. 

[DuskRaider]

I do agree that Formations are limiting and unbalanced. I would like to see them open up the ability to take FoC instead, but that would require more granularity and options IMO. Points need to be reigned in for options, and I find it odd that some detachments have a large discount when their numbers are higher while others have no discount at all. Weapons need to have their points redone to align with their effectiveness on the table. 
 

I don’t think we’ll see any kind of balance correction or even an Errata at this point. It seems GW is intent on chugging along with what they’ve done, even if it sinks the ship. I do have to wonder if they’re still designing more detachments / factions for the game or everything that’s been released to this point has been in planning for years and if there will be anything else any time soon. It seems as though sales may not be as strong as expected. 

[Pacific81]

You say that @Crablezworth but they managed it just fine back in the 90s, with very primitive editorial software and typesetting (in comparison to what they have now). And 12-year old me had no trouble following along, and really wanting to recreate this myself

These are all actual battle report shots.

 

[Crablezworth]

2 hours ago, DuskRaider said:

I do agree that Formations are limiting and unbalanced. I would like to see them open up the ability to take FoC instead, but that would require more granularity and options IMO. Points need to be reigned in for options, and I find it odd that some detachments have a large discount when their numbers are higher while others have no discount at all. Weapons need to have their points redone to align with their effectiveness on the table. 
 

I don’t think we’ll see any kind of balance correction or even an Errata at this point. It seems GW is intent on chugging along with what they’ve done, even if it sinks the ship. I do have to wonder if they’re still designing more detachments / factions for the game or everything that’s been released to this point has been in planning for years and if there will be anything else any time soon. It seems as though sales may not be as strong as expected. 

 

The formations thing could have worked if they remained consistent but its so damn cumbersome now and as you said so many thing should be paying points for certain loadouts/upgrades and a lot of stuff needs re-costing. I still think given all those issues a mode where one can just take stuff ala carte might be better. There would still be the problem of all the book 2 detachments not having any point savings the larger they get, fortunately a few of the book 2 units like pods are transports so that's not really a factor. 

 

Well they can chug along but there are clear reasons everyone can see that the game rules/balance are not amazing and sales might not be great. 

 

[Crablezworth]

2 hours ago, Pacific81 said:

You say that @Crablezworth but they managed it just fine back in the 90s, with very primitive editorial software and typesetting (in comparison to what they have now). And 12-year old me had no trouble following along, and really wanting to recreate this myself

These are all actual battle report shots.

 

 

 

 

 

True its just now they're very restricted by style guides and in general marketing, so you wouldn't be able to show any greenery today unless is something gw sells sadly. Short of painting the tiles green/overgrown that's about the most we could hope for. There would still likely be no trees, just civitas stuff/cranes/pipes. Obviously if given a budget/paint time etc they could certainly do a board even with tiles that's a bit of a deviation from urban, but I still think they'd struggle to have enough empty/negative space, also given the model count at 3k, I still feel like most of the board would be quite flooded with models. I hope im not coming off too much as an apologist for them, I really do want to see more li content, and it is unfortunate they're not seemingly allowing a lot of creativity even in allowing much stuff across product lines, case in point the fantastic warhammer hills are perfect for li and no one at gw thought to rebox or at least show the potential for cross gaming use. I'm still amazed we got rules for cliffs and rivers in the rulebook given gw doesn't make/sell either lol 

 

Bit of a tangent but, one of the more difficult aspects of documenting an li game in only so many photos (like a white dwarf batrep) is that most of the games scenarios are progressive scoring, which is super hard to contextualize visually because its so high scoring and not always related to end game, where as 40k batreps of the past you could easily follow who in the end held like 3-6 objectives or killed whoever's leader etc. The prog scoring is so hard to connect to the photos in a meaningful way, where as u can literally show a turn one and an end game map of which side controlled what objectives. In terms of a shot list, the latter is so much easier to do. Like "k picture of gargant near objective, some marines and ork buggies fleeing near objective 2" and so on. Documenting an li games sadly is like "so we deployed in a line and everything is advancing or marching, we quit after turn 2 cuz the store was closing" :p    sigh 

 

[Pacific81]

I definitely agree with you about the trees, cliffs and rivers Crablezworth! It makes you think what sort of tables the game was tested on, I think probably a lot more than just the official tiles and building sets.

 

Just did a quick IX Legion tester to see if I would enjoy painting them, so thinking now I might do a Loyalist Legion

 

[Crablezworth]

21 hours ago, Pacific81 said:

I definitely agree with you about the trees, cliffs and rivers Crablezworth! It makes you think what sort of tables the game was tested on, I think probably a lot more than just the official tiles and building sets.

 

Just did a quick IX Legion tester to see if I would enjoy painting them, so thinking now I might do a Loyalist Legion

 

 

 

I feel like not much was tested, or they just used mostly civitas structures. Some evidence to that would be rivers, as the new stalkers are vehicles and not walkers or knights, they can't even wade through a bit of water, like tanks, they need a bridge. So would lead me to think we won't be seeing a cool li river set any time soon of they forgot key details like that. But could just be an oversight in general. Would quite welcome a bridge/river box set. 

 

 

[DuskRaider]

I’ll be honest, I prefer the urban combat aesthetic to anything that could be misconstrued for Fantasy, but I do think they should give rules for those who prefer that tabletop style. I’d like to see some more terrain-centric mechanics like exploding buildings or tankers ala the Industrial Kit. It would also make hiding your infantry in a building even more dangerous instead of being a no-brainer like it basically is now. 

[Crablezworth]

4 hours ago, DuskRaider said:

I’ll be honest, I prefer the urban combat aesthetic to anything that could be misconstrued for Fantasy, but I do think they should give rules for those who prefer that tabletop style. I’d like to see some more terrain-centric mechanics like exploding buildings or tankers ala the Industrial Kit. It would also make hiding your infantry in a building even more dangerous instead of being a no-brainer like it basically is now. 

 

It's the spacing too, could still do urban but perhaps have the structures be fewer and more spaced out. One thing thats nice about an epic batrep is you usually saw clusters of buildings into like maybe 4-5 little hamlets with a lot of space in between, The urban hell can make it  hard to track too visually, like the first white dwarf li batrep. 

 

 

 

Got some count as dark mech myrmidon destructors  with c-beams printed. Once painted I'll have 16 bases (and possibly 0 friends :p )  

 

Edited January 9 by Crablezworth

[Sherrypie]

4,5k of NetEA, Ill Met by Moonlight. The Machine Church gave the eldritch machinefolk a good ol' kicking and repo'd all of their toasters.

 

 

Couple more in the spoilers.

Spoiler

 

[DemonGSides]

Awesome stuff!

[Interrogator Stobz]

I'll stick this WIP here too, after all he's gonna get more LI than AT games in now...it is nice to try an alternative paint scheme in order to make him a bit esoteric looking. New paints and new techniques are fun.

[Crablezworth]

Got a game in with the stalkers

 

lil video

 

 

 

 

Edited January 13 by Crablezworth

[Interrogator Stobz]

Cool vid, brilliant animation and soundtrack 

[DuskRaider]

I was hoping we would see the Karacnos / Krios by now, but not even a preview as of yet. 
 

I have officially completed my Mechanicum Battlebox, I just need to find the time to break out the light box and take some pictures. I’m also well on my way with the Stalker Constructs, as of today I’m almost done putting down the metal base and the black / red has been completed. I had to grab more Leadbelcher yesterday and ended up walking out the door with yet another Stalker box… I have absolutely no willpower.