The Advent (Rumour) Engine 2023

[Kastor Krieg]

Or, hear me out, GW is known for inconsistencies in design and has used a "Guard" imperialis on a Marine (Belial) storm bolter, "because cool".

[Sarges]

10 minutes ago, Gaius Maximus said:

The framing of the storm bolter picture to me suggests it is being held in someone's right hand.

 

That immediately rules out yarrick and fits with the existing belial model.

Counterpoint (but I agree with TheMawr that it very well may be bait and switch from GW and some random miniature, not the first time):

 

[Guest Triszin]

3 hours ago, Sarges said:

Is it nonsense, though? Space Marines and Guard have a different style of this iconography (at least in modern miniatures, there are some exceptions with old ones).

SM - small skull and elongated wings.

AM - big skull and more compact wings.

Also I'm not sure that this is intentional on the new Rumour Engine or just a drilling oversight but modern SM storm bolters are depicted with much bigger barrels.

 

 

Scion Tempestus jump troops

Or belial

[Mike8404]

Guard do not have arrows or arrow trim on any of their range.  If you look below the barrel on the strap there's a metal arrow pointing down.  Asmodi's new model is covered in these either as part of his physical model or painted on in the GW image.  The 30k DA range has this too, it's been a part of the DA aesthetic in 30k and now the design team is bringing it to 40k too.  This obviously makes this a DA storm bolter, it also fits rumors over new Deathwatch Termies and Belial

Edited December 15, 2023 by Mike8404

[TheMawr]

10 minutes ago, Mike8404 said:

Guard do not have arrows or arrow trim on any of their range.  If you look below the barrel on the strap there's a metal arrow pointing down.  Asmodi's new model is covered in these either as part of his physical model or painted on in the GW image.  The 30k DA range has this too, it's been a part of the DA aesthetic in 30k and now the design team is bringing it to 40k too.  This obviously makes this a DA storm bolter, it also fits rumors over new Deathwatch Termies and Belial

Scions do ( and the named ogryn too) and they are one of the killteam rumors ( same rumormonger as the da stuff )

 

 

Edited December 15, 2023 by TheMawr

[Guest Triszin]

10 minutes ago, Mike8404 said:

Guard do not have arrows or arrow trim on any of their range.  If you look below the barrel on the strap there's a metal arrow pointing down.  Asmodi's new model is covered in these either as part of his physical model or painted on in the GW image.  The 30k DA range has this too, it's been a part of the DA aesthetic in 30k and now the design team is bringing it to 40k too.  This obviously makes this a DA storm bolter, it also fits rumors over new Deathwatch Termies and Belial

Scions have it somewhat

[MechaMan]

I’ll shove a rogue one out there if it’s not the obvious contenders (death wing, Yarrick, scions kill team) - Astra Militarum Ministorum Priest with storm Bolter.
 

Hence incense, servo skull scribe etc.

 

Not had one since Taddeus the Purifier. 

 

 

 

Edited December 15, 2023 by MechaMan

[Orion]

13 minutes ago, Mike8404 said:

Guard do not have arrows or arrow trim on any of their range.  If you look below the barrel on the strap there's a metal arrow pointing down.  Asmodi's new model is covered in these either as part of his physical model or painted on in the GW image.  The 30k DA range has this too, it's been a part of the DA aesthetic in 30k and now the design team is bringing it to 40k too.  This obviously makes this a DA storm bolter, it also fits rumors over new Deathwatch Termies and Belial

 

No winged skulls. Lots of sword iconography.

 

 

Winged skull and pointy trim.

[Indy Techwisp]

I hope it is Scions tbh.

They're neat models.

(Also hopefully new Scions would also mean Unhelmeted heads for extra customisation)

[MechaMan]

3 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said:

I hope it is Scions tbh.

They're neat models.

(Also hopefully new Scions would also mean Unhelmeted heads for extra customisation)

They have unhelmeted heads? With berets

[Indy Techwisp]

8 minutes ago, MechaMan said:

They have unhelmeted heads? With berets

 

More unhelmeted heads, maybe with the mask still and stuff.

[tinpact]

It'd be great to see Scions actually get another model. My first thought was Inquisition-y, and that fits the bill.

[Alby the Slayer]

Today's rumor.

 

[Cyrox]

Scions banner?

 

Advent 15th

[CL_Mission]

Certainly looks like an Imperial banner of some kind. I'd put my money more on a Krieg banner than Scions, Scions already have a banner in their kit and it doesn't really match this one.

[Cyrox]

Yeah on second thoughts, that’s a Krieg banner:

Diagonal lines and shielded skull match

 

Edited December 15, 2023 by Cyrox

[Marshal Rohr]

Plastic Krieg are going to be the death of my wallet

[Alby the Slayer]

Oh please give us (plastic) Krieg Captain on horse and I promise I will behave next year.

 

I swear!

[Mike8404]

5 hours ago, JayJapanB said:

 

No winged skulls. Lots of sword iconography.

 

 

Winged skull and pointy trim.

Those aren't arrows...those are more like fluer-de-lis.  The thing is we know DA are getting something because we already have seen portions of their refresh and images in the advent calendar has shown DA images.  Not saying Guard aren't in there, but there's more credence that the Storm Bolter is DA than Guard since Belial is more likely than a new Scions kit that so far has only been a rumor and hasn't had anything shown.  Just my 2 cents on this

Edited December 15, 2023 by Mike8404

[Doctor Perils]

What I don't get is why people are so set on Yarrick coming with Kriegers? Sebastian is most associated with Steel Legion, not Death Korps?

[TheMawr]

2 hours ago, Cyrox said:

Scions banner?

 

Advent 15th

 

Huh... At first sight it looks like a slightly wavy banner.. but on closer inspection it seems its something more solid but damaged... the holes especially seem less like tearing and more like impact damage.. if it makes any sense 

[Mechanicus Tech-Support]

I'd find it quite humorous if it does turn out to be Krieg and we get an article on how we can make steel legion by painting the kriegers in a certain colour considering krieg started out as an alt steel legion colour scheme.

 

Would be nice if in the krieg box we get heads that could make steel legion, that way GW covers both bases

[OttoVonAwesome]

2 hours ago, CL_Mission said:

Certainly looks like an Imperial banner of some kind. I'd put my money more on a Krieg banner than Scions, Scions already have a banner in their kit and it doesn't really match this one.

The FW Krieg banners are segmented like that.

37 minutes ago, Doctor Perils said:

What I don't get is why people are so set on Yarrick coming with Kriegers? Sebastian is most associated with Steel Legion, not Death Korps?

Cuase he dissapeared with them is why.

[MoriyaSchism]

8 minutes ago, OttoVonAwesome said:

The FW Krieg banners are segmented like that.

Cuase he dissapeared with them is why.

The old Cadian and Catachan banners are segmented like that too. It's not really unique to Krieg.

[OttoVonAwesome]

24 minutes ago, MoriyaSchism said:

The old Cadian and Catachan banners are segmented like that too. It's not really unique to Krieg.

I'd be tickled pink if it was Catachans but no ones talking rumours of them getting new kits. Besides... Shield and skull, minefield sign all signs point to Death Korps.