Hachette New Hachette Magazine Combat Patrol

[Focslain]

I'll make my decision to pre-order from FP at the end of the month (when i have the money). With the issue I really want being 2 I might luck out and they'll do with this one what they did with the last one and send the first 3 issues to the local GWs and I can grab it then.

[pawl]

6 hours ago, Domhnall said:

Forbidden Planet Shipping costs:

 

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My order of 2x Issue 1 + 1x Issue 5 cost £7.49. 
So that would be £15.49 total order = £4.99 for fulfilment, + the £2.50 (bolded in text above) added for extra delivery making the £7.49 total. Will still be cheaper than buying them seperately from FP, but if you can get a newsagents to stock/order for you, then I'd suggest that's the best way.  My local doesn't, and my "local" WH Smith either doesn't have them, or one that does is a trip to get to. 

 

I suspect they were hammered by delivery costs, especially if sending out seperate issues (not just GW related stuff it should be noted) under the single delivery order or some such. Not that it matters, they're probably covering themselves for delivery costs so they're not loosing out. 

I had a look at their shipping rates after seeing this, because the numbers just wouldn't add up for me!

[Domhnall]

4 hours ago, pawl said:

I had a look at their shipping rates after seeing this, because the numbers just wouldn't add up for me!

Aye, you've got three separate issues there. So you've got a total order of £19.37 for £4.99 postage. As it's three seperate issues, it's £4.99 + £2.50 + £2.50 flat rates making your £9.99. 

 

Once we're on full price issues, you only start to save money buying in bulk when you buy 4 or more issues as per the table below but let's be honest, we're talking about a pound or so, and you usually can't pre order too far in advance (somebody check my numbers just in case I've got them wrong).

 

Bulk order:

1 issue = £9.69 + £3.50 = £13.19

2 issues = £19.38 + £4.99 + £2.50 = £26.87

3 issues = £29.07 + £5.99 + £2.50 + £2.50 = £40.06

4 issues = £38.76 + £5.99 + £2.50 + £2.50 + £2.50 = £52.25

5 issues = £48.45 + £5.99 + £2.50 + £2.50 + £2.50 + £2.50 = £64.44

 

Individual orders:

1 issue = £9.69 + £3.50 = £13.19

2 issues = £13.19 x 2 = £26.38

3 issues = £13.19 x 4 = £39.57

4 issues = £13.19 x 4 = £52.76

5 issues = £13.19 x 5 = £65.95

 

You can also see why they've done this, as before they'd be loosing £2.50 per subsequent issue, and that does add up over hundreds of orders.

[Cleon]

It's a shame they can't give a 'ship as one' option, even if they limit it to things with a release date within 28 days or something.

[Domhnall]

6 minutes ago, Cleon said:

It's a shame they can't give a 'ship as one' option, even if they limit it to things with a release date within 28 days or something.

 

Yeah, that's a shame, but I'm assuming that's a storage cost problem. They'd have to offer that service for everything they stock, and warehouse storage costs money (warehouse, services, workers, transportation etc) which they would either have to suck up (which they wouldn't) or would have to charge for, at which point it's probably not much different from postage costs 

[Xenith]

On 6/5/2024 at 3:02 PM, Mogger351 said:

I'd be more inclined to get on board if combat patrol were a better system. My group has found it a bit wonky at times and the replayability suffered as a result.

 

Some of the best games are wonky, and with CP being fixed, as-is, you can feel free to ake your own balance rules. 

[Cleon]

We tried a few combat patrol games, they were hands down the worst games we've played with GW miniatures in over 20 years, the balance between the Necron and Tyranid patrols for examples was absolutely laughable. For me it defeats the purpose of a slimmed down easy pick up format if you have to work through a balance pass of your own to make it playable.

[01RTB01]

On 6/15/2024 at 2:26 AM, Cleon said:

We tried a few combat patrol games, they were hands down the worst games we've played with GW miniatures in over 20 years, the balance between the Necron and Tyranid patrols for examples was absolutely laughable. For me it defeats the purpose of a slimmed down easy pick up format if you have to work through a balance pass of your own to make it playable.

I'll respectfully disagree. We ran a CP day at our local club, everyone played 3 games, no duplicates and no issues either.

 

[firestorm40k]

Just got this email from Hachette - changes to the contents:

 

 

Quote

These changes include:

 

- The Astra Militarum Commissar miniature being replaced by the Astra Militarum Cadian Heavy Weapons Squad miniatures.

 

- The Aeldari Autarch miniature being replaced by the Eldar Wraithguard miniatures.

 

- The Chaos Space Marines Master of Possession miniature being replaced by the Chaos Space Marine Terminators miniatures.

 

[INKS]

commissar change is a little sad, but otherwise not too bad I guess. I guess this comes down to whatever models they can actually source.

[Karhedron]

I was hoping to pick up a cheap Autarch.  More Wraithguard are never a bad thing but I suspect these will be spread across 3 issues meaning not much of a saving.

 

All 3 changes look like a character being replaced by a squad which can be spread across multiple issues. This suggests the overall saving will be diluted and the issue count increased.

[LSM]

Hmmm... The image still shows the old Chaos Space Marines 'Patrol, right?

 

I had a burgeoning conspiracy theory that the change was not due to "feedback", but the contents of the Combat Patrol changing. (As the new CSM one has a Master of Possession in it already, and therefore would require something else as an extra unit.) It would then follow that IG and Eldar are releasing next, and had their new Combat Patrols forcing likewise changes.

 

Buuuuuuut... it is probably actually from feedback, with other factions getting "big" units (World Eaters Mauler/Forgefiend) making the single small characters seem chintzy.

 

Edit: Wait a minute, that's just an old picture in general. Conspiracy theory back on!

 

Edited July 8 by LSM

[lhg033]

For the changed issues - If they are single issues for each then those are going to be some popular issues. If not then not a lot of saving vs the risk of missing out on keys sprues.
Very much feels like a lot of this magazine run is going to a bit close to 'just buy the whole patrol from a discount seller' 

 

Out of interest, FP seem to be listing issue #1 as out of stock/currently unavailable rather than pre-order

Given the postage costs I'd decided t chance my luck instore for given issues - guess this one might be a miss.

[01RTB01]

1 hour ago, Karhedron said:

I was hoping to pick up a cheap Autarch.  More Wraithguard are never a bad thing but I suspect these will be spread across 3 issues meaning not much of a saving.

 

All 3 changes look like a character being replaced by a squad which can be spread across multiple issues. This suggests the overall saving will be diluted and the issue count increased.

Not necessarily, for the AoS version, they put 10 ardboyz in a single mag so who knows.

[Karhedron]

4 hours ago, 01RTB01 said:

Not necessarily, for the AoS version, they put 10 ardboyz in a single mag so who knows.

 

If they do that then I may buy a couple of issues and finally retire my metal Wraithguard! 

[ruralguardhipcat]

Thanks for sharing the contents update. I thought I'd subscribed - received the free book a few weeks ago - but haven't had this email. Odd.

[macradam_hue]

Very little new in it (if anything) but new Fauxhammer article confirming changes, dates and a change to FB postage

https://www.fauxhammer.com/news/warhammer-combat-patrol-magazine-launch-date-collection-changes-confirmed/

[Craig]

I haven't used the site myself but Newsstand has a subscription for the 1st 52 issues priced at £307 inclusive of postage. This is less than £6 per issue. I don't know if this is a mistake that will be corrected or something that some frugal hobbyist can take advantage of but here's a link: https://www.newsstand.co.uk/204-partworks-magazines/35905-subscribe-to-warhammer-combat-patrol-magazine-subscription.aspx

[ZeroWolf]

Shame I don't have that money right now, it's a good bargain as it puts a completed combat patrol at £60 (well the first 5 anyway)

Edited August 6 by ZeroWolf
Fixed confusion

[skylerboodie]

Thanks for the link @Craig, I have given that subscription a go, let's see how it works out :)

[lhg033]

At that price, that newstand subscription is very tempting but I dont have the money spare at the moment and I need to keep telling myself I dont want all of it, just certain factions or issues. I also dont 'need' any of it as I have enough of a pile of shame to be getting on with........

 

 

[TheArtilleryman]

That’s a great deal. Shame there isn’t an option to pay monthly or I would actually snap it up at £25.62 a month. Could probably fund the full cost that way by selling the models I don’t want. You can order a smaller number of issues at a time but you would have to do that each month manually rather than just having a direct debit set up.
 

Can’t justify over 300 quid in one go though :(

Edited August 7 by TheArtilleryman

[Domhnall]

1 hour ago, TheArtilleryman said:

That’s a great deal. Shame there isn’t an option to pay monthly or I would actually snap it up at £25.62 a month. Could probably fund the full cost that way by selling the models I don’t want. You can order a smaller number of issues at a time but you would have to do that each month manually rather than just having a direct debit set up.
 

Can’t justify over 300 quid in one go though :(

 

Having a look at it, you can 

 

 

On the left of the page, there is a slider that you can adjust how many issues you would like to subscribe for. That'll be handy, especially if we get the upcoming releases schedule. 

Could be the new Forbidden Planet  

[Dark Shepherd]

Oooh just remembered the Sisters sprues I cherry picked from the last magazine to make a kill team out of could now be handy with the new Agents Codex/rules

 

The potential changes to these expanded combat patrols rules could be interesting too

[TheArtilleryman]

Had an email exchange with newsstand this morning about their subscription. You can subscribe a few issues at a time so pay monthly that way.
 

It is important to note that if you subscribe through them, you won’t get any of the extra free gifts like the glue and the mugs etc. This may help to account for some of the extra discount.

Edited August 7 by TheArtilleryman