01RTB01 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Spied in the new codex elsewhere. Grav captain 10 intercessors 5 hellblasters 3 bladeguard vets. Far more palatable to play against than the current incarnation and much better for a core force IMO. I've no interest in Dark Angels but for collecting and playing against, much improved. Karhedron, Interrogator Stobz, Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf and 3 others 4 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecanojavi99 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I would have thrown in there 3 Outriders instead of the Hellblasters just to have units from all the wings, but it isn't bad. HolyPestilience and LSM 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Yeah, it's not very DA specific. It will probably sell more as a result. Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf, HolyPestilience, Orion and 7 others 2 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) It has good purchase value, especially when new patrol boxes have fewer and/or cheaper models. Codex marine patrol once have the shadowspear marine models + 1 impulsor(which has a ridiculus £50 price tag now), now it only have less than 50% of Leviathan marine half. Can't clearly recognize the heads/shoulder pads in the photo, but I guess it doesn't contain the new DA upgrade sprue(£20 price tag)? Edited January 21 by Tokugawa Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoriyaSchism Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Gravis Captain is a bit weird. They included a character that can't join any of the units. HolyPestilience, Subtleknife, Karhedron and 11 others 2 3 9 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 This isn't good? No synergy's. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 23 minutes ago, MoriyaSchism said: Gravis Captain is a bit weird. They included a character that can't join any of the units. Ork CP with mega armoured warboss also says hi. 10 minutes ago, Triszin said: This isn't good? No synergy's. It's a variety of combat and shooting, core marine units and some elite. For a newbie or just cp games it'll work well. I'd rather play against this than their current one of 3 flying bolters, a dread, a character and a 5 man intercessor squad. ZeroWolf and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrindur Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) Was expected since we already had rumours about the contents but I still thought there might have been some mistake as the Gravis captain can't lead anyone here? Wondering if there is at least an upgrade sprue in here, since it wouldn't even be good value if there isn't. Would only be 18% discount vs on average 25% on the new Necron/Admech ones and 36% on average for the 9th edition CPs Edited January 21 by Matrindur ZeroWolf and LSM 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 This looks to be a great starter set for a new Marine player. Add 3 Aggressors/Eradicators and a Dreadnough, and it will be a tidy little army. ZeroWolf, Karhedron, 01RTB01 and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitnam Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 From a hobby standpoint I prefer the old one, but that’s because it has a big centerpiece model. I dislike them moving away from that in many of the vanguard and Combat Patrol boxes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 It makes perfect sense from a GW point of view - keep the HQ out of the unit in combat patrol so you don't have a mini deathstar and have an extra independent piece and then also pushes the person moving on from combat patrol to get a gravis unit to escort the captain and leaves them open to any of the HQs to join the other squads. If this was a BA box with a new BA sprue instead of DA I'd probably pick it up and build a new fancy squad of intercessors with the new bling even though I have plenty of the basic old starter set guys. Aarik, 01RTB01, Karhedron and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopounder Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 They really miss the mark when not using at least one special unit for codex divergent chapters. New players especially will just see green ultramarines. They could have at least added a chaplain Instead of gravis armor. They even have a new upgrade sprue to add for bikes/speeders/termies. ThaneOfTas, LSM, FarFromSam and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 13 minutes ago, twopounder said: They really miss the mark when not using at least one special unit for codex divergent chapters. I guess it makes the boxes more generic and more widely appealing. Zoatibix 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I was going to question why the gravis captain but the reasoning up thread does make sense. As to why this would be generic, to maximise sales. A box like this could appeal to most space marine players and DA fans will still probably buy this. As I've theorised elsewhere, does this point to a trend of every army getting a new cp or will some of the later ones go through unchanged? Guess we'll see with Orks and Chaos (already rumours that the Tau one is changing) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irlLordy Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 This looks good for new players, good solid base to build up an army from. Also seems like a bit stuff than some of the existing combat patrols, especially if the intercessors can combat squad. Deathwatch and even the standard SM combat patrol with the terminators will be a bit undergunned (well at least until Deathwatch get a new combat patrol) ZeroWolf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mana Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 If it has 2 of the new upgrade sprues and still cost the same as current combat patrols it's the same value as the current one, more or less. It's an ok combat patrol, personally I wouldn't even bother buying it for other chapters, part of the value of the box would be the (hopefully) 2 new upgrade sprues. (Unless you can sell the upgrade sprues and get some of the cost back) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSM Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 16 hours ago, mecanojavi99 said: I would have thrown in there 3 Outriders instead of the Hellblasters just to have units from all the wings, but it isn't bad. Yeah, if we're wishlisting, I would have gone for: Master Lazarus kit (though built and rules'd for the generic Lieutenant with MC Bolter + Power Fist, rather than the Lazarus character) [Alternatively: Primaris Lieutenant Zakariah] 5 Hellblasters 3 Outriders 3 Bladeguard Veterans New DA Upgrade Sprue // It's hard to tell, but honestly it looks like the new upgrades aren't in there. Tellingly, they come with a Power Sword Intercessor arm, and a little backpack icon, yet the Intercessor Sergeant has the standard "bolter strapped, pistol out and up, checking my forearm screen" build. Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-V Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I wonder if they didn't provide Outriders as they would have had to provide a third upgrade sprue. There is only one wing(?) to upgrade an Outrider to Ravenwing on each upgrade sprue. It would have been odd to allow you to upgrade two of the three bikes. LSM 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mittens Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I dont think it's a bad intro kit, though having the DA specific new bladeguard types would have been nice. New players will like the hellblasters and intercessors. The gravis captain you only ever need 1 of. Odd choice to include am HQ that can't join the units in the box, maybe it was decided, contents wise, before the new rules were written or finalized? FarFromSam 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Bear in mind combat patrol is not 40k, the captain may well be able to join the units in CP, and if you expand to 40k it suggests an obvious first purchase :D ZeroWolf, Doctor Perils and LSM 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSM Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 42 minutes ago, Nova-V said: I wonder if they didn't provide Outriders as they would have had to provide a third upgrade sprue. There is only one wing(?) to upgrade an Outrider to Ravenwing on each upgrade sprue. It would have been odd to allow you to upgrade two of the three bikes. The new upgrades do only come with the one wing, but have three pairs of Ravenwing symbols (for adding to the sides of bikes). I think the intent is that you only give the wing to the Sergeant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, LSM said: Yeah, if we're wishlisting, I would have gone for: Master Lazarus kit (though built and rules'd for the generic Lieutenant with MC Bolter + Power Fist, rather than the Lazarus character) [Alternatively: Primaris Lieutenant Zakariah] 5 Hellblasters 3 Outriders 3 Bladeguard Veterans New DA Upgrade Sprue // It's hard to tell, but honestly it looks like the new upgrades aren't in there. Tellingly, they come with a Power Sword Intercessor arm, and a little backpack icon, yet the Intercessor Sergeant has the standard "bolter strapped, pistol out and up, checking my forearm screen" build. That'd be quite unbalanced to be honest... Glad they didn't. Blindhamster 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopounder Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 13 hours ago, Karhedron said: I guess it makes the boxes more generic and more widely appealing. Anyone could still build the kits and then pawn the upgrade sprue. Given that they'll likely be sold out 90% of the time, it probably wouldn't be too hard to offload them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-V Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 hours ago, LSM said: The new upgrades do only come with the one wing, but have three pairs of Ravenwing symbols (for adding to the sides of bikes). I think the intent is that you only give the wing to the Sergeant. Ah hadn't spotted that. Well that does bring a bit more value to the sprue as it can cover one unit. However seems sad not to see a wing on each bike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I'm quite happy with the selection for a completely different reason from what's been mentioned: I bought the Dark Imperium boxset when it came out, so I have all the models except the bladeguard to be able to run this combat patrol. Really, I think they should produce combat patrol sheets for all the boxsets that have been released since the beginning of 8th... Primarch Betalio 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382152-new-dark-angels-combat-patrol/#findComment-6017762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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