Black Library fiction Lelith Hesperax: Queen of Knives by Mike Brooks

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19 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said:

It's fine to say "I am not/I am into this book because of the author's political stand that seeps into the story", rather it's not on topic to discuss whether Sargon in real life is a racist or not.

 

The important thing is to remember the board rules. If someone states they will or won't get this book because of the politics surrounding it, we don't have to debate those politics. Accept it or roll eyes, then move on. 

 

For once I 100% agree.

[Robbienw]

3 hours ago, Petitioner's City said:

I do think it's hard not to mention Brooks is - like many other scifi writers - explicitly focused on his genre as a vehicle for political commentary. It's hard to take that away from his work

 

https://twitter.com/MikeBrooks668?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

Thanks for bringing this to our attention, I will be sure to avoid this authors books in future!

[Captain Idaho]

2 hours ago, Brother Captain Arkley said:

 

For once I 100% agree.

 

Steady on mate, you liked one of my posts last year too!

 

We really are in weird times 

Edited May 4 by Captain Idaho

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2 hours ago, Captain Idaho said:

 

Steady on mate, you liked one of my posts last year too!

 

We really are in weird times 

Stopped clocks are right twice a day. :P

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[TrawlingCleaner]

=][= I've hidden some more comments now. Again, we'll leave the writers', Youtuber and your own personal beef there. Last one before the thread gets locked. Backed to this Lelith Hesperax book =][=

[phandaal]

6 hours ago, Captain Idaho said:

The important thing is to remember the board rules. If someone states they will or won't get this book because of the politics surrounding it, we don't have to debate those politics. Accept it or roll eyes, then move on. 

 

It is probably worth some kind of clarification then, because if one person says they are choosing not to buy something and that is OK, then other people should also be able to agree that they too do not want to buy that thing without having their comments hidden or edited.

 

It is not political to say that an author bringing the real world into their books is a turn off just because the thing the author put in was political. That is literally just people saying "what it says on the tin." Keep fiction fictional.

 

People are going to express that opinion more and more as real-world things get put into the books more and more. It shouldn't be part of a 40k discussion, but it is, because the people writing the books and lore keep making it a part of the discussion.

 

Anyway, this comment will probably also get hidden but I hope you guys take that into consideration. If this guy's past work is any indication, we know exactly what will happen once the book releases and people are free to stay "on topic" with their criticism.

[Orange Knight]

I think we need to adjust what is and isn't acceptable on the forum as a discussion. 

 

Whilst I fully agree that we should keep real world politics away from the forum and our hobby in general, we do find ourselves in a position where real world politics are being forced into the hobby by the official authors and custodians of the 40k setting.

 

We need to be able to point these things out, and be able to express an opinion about their inclusion. This isn't the same as discussing the politics in question.

[TrawlingCleaner]

3 hours ago, phandaal said:

 

It is probably worth some kind of clarification then, because if one person says they are choosing not to buy something and that is OK, then other people should also be able to agree that they too do not want to buy that thing without having their comments hidden or edited.

 

It is not political to say that an author bringing the real world into their books is a turn off just because the thing the author put in was political. That is literally just people saying "what it says on the tin." Keep fiction fictional.

 

People are going to express that opinion more and more as real-world things get put into the books more and more. It shouldn't be part of a 40k discussion, but it is, because the people writing the books and lore keep making it a part of the discussion.

 

Anyway, this comment will probably also get hidden but I hope you guys take that into consideration. If this guy's past work is any indication, we know exactly what will happen once the book releases and people are free to stay "on topic" with their criticism.

 

1 hour ago, Orange Knight said:

I think we need to adjust what is and isn't acceptable on the forum as a discussion. 

 

Whilst I fully agree that we should keep real world politics away from the forum and our hobby in general, we do find ourselves in a position where real world politics are being forced into the hobby by the official authors and custodians of the 40k setting.

 

We need to be able to point these things out, and be able to express an opinion about their inclusion. This isn't the same as discussing the politics in question.

 

We've allowed people to say "I won't buy buy this book/support this author because of their politics/politics in their books/personal beef", we've even allowed people to give a bit more context on that when asked why. We've hidden comments that take that a step or several steps further. People bringing up how bad X or Y politics being in a book will always start more discussions which the B&C is not for.

 

Your politics or beliefs aren't worth more than anyone else's here or less than anyone else's here. Everyone's is worthless here 

 

If you're worried about moderator conduct (it's mainly been mine in this thread), Brother Tyler is the person to contact

If you think the rules of the forum should change, the Suggestions Box is the place to do that

My own PMs are always open too

 

I'm going to lock the thread for now and let everyone cool off so we can tidy up too

Edited May 4 by TrawlingCleaner